N enema

[greyhound]

I'm getting close to departing from planet earth and am posting my plans/protocol. Any feedback is welcome.

I have 2 bottles of N and meto as an AE.

I realize that the standard method of taking the meto and drinking the N on an empty stomach would probably work fine.

However my personal issue is that I tend to get really nauseous when I am nervous. So I want to try to minimize the risk of vomiting due to being nervous. I don't like the idea of aborting the attempt and trying to puke up the rest if you vomit at all. I want a method that will likely work even if some is vomited.

I also have a strong heart (my resting HR is in the 40s) am not super excited at the prospect of extended coma for hours/days with the straight N method.

If you look at the new protocols they come up with it (DDMP etc) they tend to be a bunch of different things like morphine, benzos, etc.

So my plan is to (in order of operations):

A) Drink one bottle of N
C) Inject 2 g of heroin as an IM shot using a 3ml syringe
D) Inject ~100 mg xanax using another IM syringe
B) Use a syringe/tube to do the contents of the other 100ml N bottle as an enema

I think I could probably do all of that within a very short period of time. IM shots are super quick just jab it in to a big muscle and empty the plunger. The enema would be basically the same and I would plan to have it essentially ready to go. Drinking the initial bottle's worth would actually take the longest.

I don't really have any experience with enemas. I tried to search for enema retention and it seems like there was a study for UC patients that used 100ml and by and large they were able to retain it overnight while asleep so I figure most would probably stay in.

The advantage is obviously the redundancy. Even I puke up the majority of the N the contents of the enema would still absorb. In fact the heroin + benzos alone would probably be enough on their own. Assuming at least one bottle of N will absorb then it should work fine. The breathing suppression should take effect much quicker and will probably be dead within minutes rather than potentially hours with straight N.

The downsides of this method is that it's not quite a dignified death trying to get N in both ends in your final moments. Plus it would be a semi stressful last minute of pushing plungers and injecting different things. On the upside it would keep you occupied during a time when you'd probably be fairly scared if you didn't have anything to do after simply drinking the N.

 

[BobMorane]

From the videos ive seen on assisted suicide, it usually take 2 minutes something to fall asleep. I doubt you'll have the time to achieve all your protocol. Why not take anxiety meds with AE and then proceed to drink it ? Cheers.

 

[Peel_the_Banana]

From the videos ive seen on assisted suicide, it usually take 2 minutes something to fall asleep. I doubt you'll have the time to achieve all your protocol. Why not take anxiety meds with AE and then proceed to drink it ? Cheers.

I agree with this. It is already known that rectal administration is quicker than oral absorption for most meds. Adding the heroin etc then creates overkill. I don't see you staying awake long enough to get all of this done. You are definitely risking a failed attempt and potentially wasting that precious N.

You'd definitely need assistance for this plan to work; but then that puts a potential helper at risk of jail time.

 

[greyhound]

From the videos ive seen on assisted suicide, it usually take 2 minutes something to fall asleep. I doubt you'll have the time to achieve all your protocol. Why not take anxiety meds with AE and then proceed to drink it ? Cheers.

I agree with this. It is already known that rectal administration is quicker than oral absorption for most meds. Adding the heroin etc then creates overkill. I don't see you staying awake long enough to get all of this done. You are definitely risking a failed attempt and potentially wasting that precious N.

You'd definitely need assistance for this plan to work; but then that puts a potential helper at risk of jail time.

Yeah I was told by someone that N could hit even quicker if done via enema. So it could be tricky to get it all done before passing out.

I guess I'm thinking of the recent thread where someone survived N and woke up with vomit on themselves.

The risk of vomiting is also increased by taking opiates, but the enema reduces the consequence of vomiting as a lethal amount would still absorb into your system via that route.

I just want something that will still work even if I vomit. I don't want to abort the whole attempt which is what the PPH recommends.

Overkill is what I'm going for really. Obviously I just can't employ a helper. If I had a helper I'd just have them inject me with N.

 

[Peel_the_Banana]

Yeah I was told by someone that N could hit even quicker if done via enema. So it could be tricky to get it all done before passing out.

I guess I'm thinking of the recent thread where someone survived N and woke up with vomit on themselves.

The risk of vomiting is also increased by taking opiates, but the enema reduces the consequence of vomiting as a lethal amount would still absorb into your system via that route.

I just want something that will still work even if I vomit. I don't want to abort the whole attempt which is what the PPH recommends.

Overkill is what I'm going for really. Obviously I just can't employ a helper. If I had a helper I'd just have them inject me with N.

They are correct on the enema. There is evidence here and on the internet of rectal N / Dolethal administration although very limited. Its the adding heroine part that's problematic. If you are not an addict that heroine will knock you out as soon as it hits your system thus you may not get a chance to complete the N-ema.

If you fast etc. swallowing the first bottle of N will knock you out within minutes. Theres just too many ways to only halfway complete this plan and wake up 3-4 days later in your own piss, feces and vomit. Stick with the N and leave the rest or just OD on Fent laced heroine if that's your final choice. You have a higher chance of completing 2 parts of this plan but not all 3 parts. (Im excluding the Xanax piece for purposes of this discussion. Theres just too much going on here.)

 

[greyhound]

They are correct on the enema. There is evidence here and on the internet of rectal N / Dolethal administration although very limited. Its the adding heroine part that's problematic. If you are not an addict that heroine will knock you out as soon as it hits your system thus you may not get a chance to complete the N-ema.

If you fast etc. swallowing the first bottle of N will knock you out within minutes. Theres just too many ways to only halfway complete this plan and wake up 3-4 days later in your own piss, feces and vomit. Stick with the N and leave the rest or just OD on Fent laced heroine if that's your final choice. You have a higher chance of completing 2 parts of this plan but not all 3 parts. (Im excluding the Xanax piece for purposes of this discussion. Theres just too much going on here.)

Well I am pretty much addicted to opiates at this point it's sort of my pre-CTB opiate vacation for the past few weeks. I do have somewhat of a tolerance to them. An IM injection into a muscle doesn't hit you in seconds like it does for IV. But the wildcard is injecting this amount, I'm not sure if such a huge dose will take effect more quickly even when done IM.

Yeah you're right there are a lot of ways this could be left unfinished. But even one bottle of N is supposedly lethal. They added the second bottle primarily to speed up the process in the case of people that took hours to die. So even if I got through 1 bottle + heroin that combo would almost certainly be fatal, unless I vomited up the N while unconscious. Basically the further I got through the process the more certain death would be. But even just drinking the 1 bottle of N would probably have a 95% chance of fatality. I just want to get closer to 99.99%.

If I had to guess I'd say that simply drinking 2 bottles of N would probably be like 97% chance fatal. In my case I'd say there is a few % chance that I vomit up enough to survive.