My worries about SN

[LapisLazuli]

Hello. Soon I might be forced to use the SN method, but Im having worries, and doubts about it, so I would like to ask about a few stuff to be sure.

1- What if my SN isnt the purest ? From what I recall my SN bottle has something around 96-99 purity, however I have no option to do the test, and check it. What would happen if it wasnt the purest and I still useed it ? Would it still work ?

2-Are you sure that there can be no permament organ damage, in case I get "saved" Im especially worried about the brain damage that could leave me as vegetable. I saw some post on forum here, that listed SN stories of fail and success, and in one of those it said that someone got saved and suffered a permament kidney damage.

3-Is it okay if I use water from the grocery store ? regular one in plastic bottle.

4- What if I take not enough SN for my weight ? Would it still work ?

5- Is it possible that when I loose conciousnes, then someone could still wake me up ?

6- What if I add too much, or too little water ?

7- Is it possible that I can have a seizure after taking SN ?

 

[lyfsoverrated]

Interested in some of these as well.

Especially #1.

I imagine not enough SN just gives you most of the side effects without the ultimate goal.

I believe I read the less water the better, more water it won't be absorbed as fast leading to longer side effects before unconscious.

 

[Crono]

2-Are you sure that there can be no permament organ damage, in case I get "saved" Im especially worried about the brain damage that could leave me as vegetable. I saw some post on forum here, that listed SN stories of fail and success, and in one of those it said that someone got saved and suffered a permament kidney damage.

All CTB methods necessarily involve cardiac arrest and brain cell death at some point, so there is always a risk of brain damage.

 

[RainLover]

1 - As long as it is above 95% it is perfect, if it is too low you will either die from it or suffer poisoning symptoms from what I know (there's a case of someone who took SN from Walmart and lived (below 10% purity)).

2 - The earlier you get saved less likely you receive permanent injuries, about brain damage, there has been no cases to my knowledge of brain damage after drinking SN, but it could happen as braincells don't get enough oxygen, just like I said, the earlier you are saved (in case you are saved), the less likely it is.

3 - As long as it is water and not other beverage, you can use whatever brand you like, event tap water will work.

4 - It is important that you consume 25gr if you weight less that 100kg or consume 35gr if you weight more than 100kg.

6 - The recommended amount of water is 50ml for each drink (25gr in 50ml) this can be measured either with a plastic cup or by weighing the cup empty, then the cup with water, and substracting the weight of the cup from the weight of the water, wich should be equal for 50gr (1ml of water = 1gr), if you have problems dissolving the SN you can add water until dissolved, however you should not exceed 100ml of water.

7 - You could have seizures in the process of dying, however they are small seizures, if you're still worried about making noise, you could clear the area before taking the SN, if present, the seizures will most likely appear when unconscious, so you will not know it.

Hope this works, if I'm incorrect in something I apologize, and I'd be happy with editing this, it's not my intention to spread misinformation.

 

[befree]

Are you sure that there can be no permament organ damage, in case I get "saved" Im especially worried about the brain damage

related thread:

Sodium Nitrite possible health risks!

Got this warning label (don't have the product yet) by post and the only thing I can say, if you choose this method you better do it right, there might not be a second change with Sodium Nitrite!

sanctioned-suicide.net

there has been no cases to my knowledge of brain damage after drinking SN

wrong

 

[Myexit]

Think it would be best to take more than you need so to be sure of success. Can anyone please tell me if taking over/higher dose of SN for your body weight would make CTB quicker? I'm assuming the higher the dose the quicker the exit would be

 

[Anon7b8]

Think it would be best to take more than you need so to be sure of success. Can anyone please tell me if taking over/higher dose of SN for your body weight would make CTB quicker? I'm assuming the higher the dose the quicker the exit would be

That will only be true if you don't vomit most of it out and let your bidy absob it.

 

[Myexit]

That will only be true if you don't vomit most of it out and let your bidy absob it.

That's what I thought too. I have 30 x 50mg cyclazine tablets to prevent nausea, vomiting and dizziness so plan to take one prior drinking the SN. I really need to get SN asap as I really want to ctb, would be gone already if I could get it.

 

[Anon7b8]

That's what I thought too. I have 30 x 50mg cyclazine tablets to prevent nausea, vomiting and dizziness so plan to take one prior drinking the SN. I really need to get SN asap as I really want to ctb, would be gone already if I could get it.

Are you sure those tablets don't interact badly with sn? I read a post before thats says you need a certain body chem blocked it's also why meto is so popular.

 

[Myexit]

I don't really know, I'm researching at the moment. I also have severe GERD where I take omeprazole 40mg twice a day to control stomach acid. SN or N is my referred method, if I can't get either I will use charcoal, lot's of it in a tent or my bathroom which will be well sealed off.
Thanks for your replies

 

[アホペンギン]

1. The SN has to be above 95% purity. If you can't test the SN with the aquarium test for whatever reason then the blood test would suffice, just to say if the SN actually has nitrite in it. The blood test does not determine the purity of the SN.

2. You will end up with some sort of organ damage if saved too late. SN shuts down the brain by inducing hypaemic hypoxia (cerebral hypoxia) The brain needs oxygen to run, but SN turn hemoglobin in the blood into methemoglobin, which cannot transport oxygen. Without oxygen, all your organs will shut down, which leads to death.

3. You'll need plain water, just make sure the water has no extra additives in it and that'll be fine.

4. SN is lethal regardless of the quantity used. 1g is lethal but 25g is recommended to make the QoD higher.

5. After 3 minutes of falling unconscious, you won't be able to be woken up but you will be able to be saved, still. You'll have to be careful while carrying out your ctb with SN, go to a hotel or make sure you are alone.

6. 50ml-100ml is the amount of water recommended. Most people use 50ml to avoid vomiting but some use more than that to mask the saltiness of the SN.

7.I don't know how to answer this, most people don't have a seizure so I assume that you won't have one either.

 

[nom de guerre]

RainLover said:
there has been no cases to my knowledge of brain damage after drinking SN

wrong

Would you be able to provide citations or references to this claim? I have read (very closely) between 10-20 (at least) medical journals, case reports and coroner's reports from various countries; and not in one report there was any mention of anyone surviving with brain damage?

 

[befree]

Would you be able to provide citations or references to this claim? I have read (very closely) between 10-20 (at least) medical journals, case reports and coroner's reports from various countries; and not in one report there was any mention of anyone surviving with brain damage?

Please read my numerous posts in the other threads. I do not write and post everything again.
You can find them here:

http://suicidabvrputryeg3mxdwwtwnv3eqj2koztuaiko5zn5rzodtencnad.onion/threads/doubting-the-reliability-of-sn-method.130728/

 

[Anon7b8]

I don't really know, I'm researching at the moment. I also have severe GERD where I take omeprazole 40mg twice a day to control stomach acid. SN or N is my referred method, if I can't get either I will use charcoal, lot's of it in a tent or my bathroom which will be well sealed off.
Thanks for your replies

Good luck in acquiring what you need. It's getting harder it seems.

 

[nom de guerre]

This is a question for this thread. If you make a claim in this thread, the burden of proof is on you. It would be basic courtesy to reply in here, you cant expect me to read the history of your life postings on this forum to get an answer for this simple question. Least you could do is at least link something that directly addresses this very serious claim. Not asking you to write a thesis

Please read my numerous posts in the other threads. I do not write and post everything again.
You can find them here:

http://suicidabvrputryeg3mxdwwtwnv3eqj2koztuaiko5zn5rzodtencnad.onion/threads/doubting-the-reliability-of-sn-method.130728/

 

[befree]

you cant expect me

Yes I can ! If you are too lazy to read previous posts, it´s your problem.

 

[nom de guerre]

Yes I can ! If you are too lazy to read previous posts, it´s your problem.

Wow didn't expect such arrogance and pompousness from a fellow forumer. Are you an authority on this subject?

I am far from lazy, I actually routinely read peer reviewed published medical journals, medico-legal reports, case studies from cases that have been observed in practice upon presentation, autopsies and follow throughs from coroners and pathologists. I's rather spent my time reading reports from established and published sources than digging up your bitter and vague "trust me bro" claims. Granted, I've seen your postings here and there.

I've seen some of your threads, as far as I'm concerned, your assertions have always just been that- from your biased made up mind. Without doxxing myself, I have the professional qualifications and associations with relevant bodies to dissecr studies and I have access to reports through my associations. I value data veracity so that's why I will only be convinced by credible sources that have been studied empirically.

As far as I can see from your postings, you make claims out of your anecdotes without concrete evidence nor proper reference from any documented sources and yet you expect people to take your words at face value?

Congrats, you must be an unquestionable genius.

Edit: sorry OP for engaging with this person and for this lengthy rant

 

[befree]

You are wasting my time.

 

[アホペンギン]

Would you be able to provide citations or references to this claim? I have read (very closely) between 10-20 (at least) medical journals, case reports and coroner's reports from various countries; and not in one report there was any mention of anyone surviving with brain damage?

Any CTB method involves shutting down the brain in some way, if you are saved too late you WILL survive with irreversible brain damage, no exceptions. Those people in the medical journals were saved early enough so they avoided having to deal with brain damage.

 

[nom de guerre]

Any CTB method involves shutting down the brain in some way, if you are saved too late you WILL survive with irreversible brain damage, no exceptions. Those people in the medical journals were saved early enough so they avoided having to deal with brain damage.

Respectfully, I am by no means wanting to argue. I just wanted to see if there has indeed been any case of brain damage that has resulted from a failed attempt, in real life from the numerous attempts, that has failed. Not hypotheticals and what ifs that hasn't occurred, especially a lot of attempts, successful and otherwise have taken place.

What I'm saying is that I have not seen any case of brain damage, so I would have appreciated if someone who has seen such case of resultant brain damage from a failed attempt could share it with me as I myself am invested in this. It would have been widely reported or at least published somewhere.

The powers that be would def jump at any opportunity that would serve as a deterrent for people to stay clear of this method. I hope this is clear.

I wasnt being antagonistic, merely asking if the person has the source of such incident. My readings were not narrow in scope.

 

[アホペンギン]

Respectfully, I am by no means wanting to argue. I just wanted to see if there has indeed been any case of brain damage that has resulted from a failed attempt, in real life from the numerous attempts, that has failed. Not hypotheticals and what ifs that hasn't occurred, especially a lot of attempts, successful and otherwise have taken place.

What I'm saying is that I have not seen any case of brain damage, so I would have appreciated if someone who has seen such case of resultant brain damage from a failed attempt could share it with me as I myself am invested in this. It would have been widely reported or at least published somewhere.

The powers that be would def jump at any opportunity that would serve as a deterrent for people to stay clear of this method. I hope this is clear.

I wasnt being antagonistic, merely asking if the person has the source of such incident. My readings were not narrow in scope.

Yes, I understand that your intentions were the opposite of wanting to start an argument but you didn't seem convinced (at least to me) that there are indeed cases of people surviving with brain damage from SN. I was just trying to reassure you about the truth, sorry if it came off as rude of something. Have a good day. :)

 

[Lysandre]

When reaching an oxygen saturation below 80% you risk suffering organ damage, brain included.

 

[DreamEnd]

When reaching an oxygen saturation below 80% you risk suffering organ damage, brain included.

Do you have any examples of this? Maybe a thread or a medical article? I have been looking for some and can't find anything

 

[Lysandre]

Do you have any examples of this? Maybe a thread or a medical article? I have been looking for some and can't find anything

Besides what the doctors were saying in the ER when they were struggling trying to find methylene blue for me when I od'd on SN and that they urged me to keep breathing in the oxygen mask they gave me? Nope. But that aside I managed to find stuff online talking about the effects of hypoxia on the human organs previously, you can find that too.

 

[tieiwi]

I believe your kidneys will never be the same after an SN attempt. SN is very salty and too much salt isn't good for the kidneys. I failed mine because I ingested very little and didn't take any anti emetics (my SN might've not been the purest but I was under the impression it was). I couldn't pee after my attempt, I went to the doctor acting like I had a uti. After some antibiotics I could pee but my bladder went to shit. Sometimes I'll get random shocks in my kidneys too. I haven't gotten my kidneys checked out but I know things aren't the same as before my attempt.

 

[Quinton Coldwater]

That's what I thought too. I have 30 x 50mg cyclazine tablets to prevent nausea, vomiting and dizziness so plan to take one prior drinking the SN. I really need to get SN asap as I really want to ctb, would be gone already if I could get it.

We can talk if you'd like you can PM me

I believe your kidneys will never be the same after an SN attempt. SN is very salty and too much salt isn't good for the kidneys. I failed mine because I ingested very little and didn't take any anti emetics (my SN might've not been the purest but I was under the impression it was). I couldn't pee after my attempt, I went to the doctor acting like I had a uti. After some antibiotics I could pee but my bladder went to shit. Sometimes I'll get random shocks in my kidneys too. I haven't gotten my kidneys checked out but I know things aren't the same as before my attempt.

You don't need antiemetis to be successful maybe you didn't ingest enough or it wasn't very pure

 

[Kera]

2 - The earlier you get saved less likely you receive , there has been no cases to my knowledge of brain damage after drinking SN, but it could happen as braincells don't get enough oxygen, just like I said, the earlier you are saved (in case you are saved), the less likely it is.

RainLover seid
there has been no cases to my knowledge of brain damage after drinking SN

wrong

Respectfully, I am by no means wanting to argue. I just wanted to see if there has indeed been any case of brain damage that has resulted from a failed attempt, in real life from the numerous attempts, that has failed. Not hypotheticals and what ifs that hasn't occurred, especially a lot of attempts, successful and otherwise have taken place.

I wasnt being antagonistic, merely asking if the person has the source of such incident. My readings were not narrow in scope.

I have noticed that some users read the posts only cursorily or partially. Or they only read what they want or whatever. This quickly leads to misunderstandings and insults, which nobody wants. And not everyone speaks English either.

It is advisable, when we want to quote a user, to look carefully at what we are quoting. It is not always enough to just reproduce fragments from the sentence. In the end, a completely different/wrong situation arises.

RainLover said:
... there has been no cases to my knowledge of brain damage after drinking SN, but it could happen as braincells don't get enough oxygen,

Quoted but only:
there has been no cases to my knowledge of brain damage after drinking SN

Taken out of context, we have the dilemma. Wrong answer, conflict, bravo!!!

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Hypoxic brain damage

Fast and comprehensive supply of oxygen deficiency in the brain
Hypoxic brain damage (hypoxic-ischemic encephalopathy, also HIE) in adults is brain damage due to a severe lack of oxygen in the brain (hypoxia). It often occurs after a circulatory arrest with successful resuscitation measures (resuscitation). As a result, there are individually different degrees of neurological disorders, states of coma or a vegetative state.
In order to keep irreparable brain damage to a minimum, early treatment and follow-up care by specialists are crucial.

Causes of hypoxic brain damage
The nerve cells of the brain, especially the sensitive cells on the surface of the cerebrum responsible for higher functions of consciousness such as perception, memory and coordination, die within a few minutes due to the lack of oxygen. Since these nerve cells do not regenerate, the brain is irreparably damaged and hypoxic brain damage occurs. The causes of an insufficient supply of oxygen to the brain are varied and often occur as a result of a traffic accident with high blood loss or a drowning accident, cardiac arrest, poisoning or a severe allergic reaction.

Symptoms of hypoxic brain damage
The extent of the hypoxic brain damage depends, among other things, on how long the oxygen supply to the brain was interrupted. If the brain is briefly undersupplied with oxygen, symptoms such as coordination, perception or memory disorders can occur, which usually resolve again. A prolonged lack of oxygen to the brain of more than five minutes leads to a deep unconsciousness, the coma. In severe cases, the coma turns into a persistent severe disturbance of consciousness up to a vegetative state.

 

[LapisLazuli]

I have noticed that some users read the posts only cursorily or partially. Or they only read what they want or whatever. This quickly leads to misunderstandings and insults, which nobody wants. And not everyone speaks English either.

It is advisable, when we want to quote a user, to look carefully at what we are quoting. It is not always enough to just reproduce fragments from the sentence. In the end, a completely different/wrong situation arises.

RainLover said:
... there has been no cases to my knowledge of brain damage after drinking SN, but it could happen as braincells don't get enough oxygen,

Quoted but only:
there has been no cases to my knowledge of brain damage after drinking SN

Taken out of context, we have the dilemma. Wrong answer, conflict, bravo!!!

---

Hypoxic brain damage

Fast and comprehensive supply of oxygen deficiency in the brain
Hypoxic brain damage (hypoxic-ischemic encephalopathy, also HIE) in adults is brain damage due to a severe lack of oxygen in the brain (hypoxia). It often occurs after a circulatory arrest with successful resuscitation measures (resuscitation). As a result, there are individually different degrees of neurological disorders, states of coma or a vegetative state.
In order to keep irreparable brain damage to a minimum, early treatment and follow-up care by specialists are crucial.

Causes of hypoxic brain damage
The nerve cells of the brain, especially the sensitive cells on the surface of the cerebrum responsible for higher functions of consciousness such as perception, memory and coordination, die within a few minutes due to the lack of oxygen. Since these nerve cells do not regenerate, the brain is irreparably damaged and hypoxic brain damage occurs. The causes of an insufficient supply of oxygen to the brain are varied and often occur as a result of a traffic accident with high blood loss or a drowning accident, cardiac arrest, poisoning or a severe allergic reaction.

Symptoms of hypoxic brain damage
The extent of the hypoxic brain damage depends, among other things, on how long the oxygen supply to the brain was interrupted. If the brain is briefly undersupplied with oxygen, symptoms such as coordination, perception or memory disorders can occur, which usually resolve again. A prolonged lack of oxygen to the brain of more than five minutes leads to a deep unconsciousness, the coma. In severe cases, the coma turns into a persistent severe disturbance of consciousness up to a vegetative state.

Thanks for the reply. If you don`t mind I would like to ask about a few more stuff that Im curious about.

1- I now understand that organ and brain damage can occur, if I am saved in time. But what if nobody intervenes ? Is it possible that I could still end up with damaged brain or organs even if nobody saves me ?

2- My mectoplarimde pills are after expiration date, is that okay ? Or do I have to get new ones ?

 

[DreamEnd]

Besides what the doctors were saying in the ER when they were struggling trying to find methylene blue for me when I od'd on SN and that they urged me to keep breathing in the oxygen mask they gave me? Nope. But that aside I managed to find stuff online talking about the effects of hypoxia on the human organs previously, you can find that too.

Are you good now? Any residual effects?

 

[LapisLazuli]

There is one more thing that I am concerned about. I`ve read that people often vomit after taking SN. Is it possible that I could vomit enough not to kill me, but to damage my organs ?