My time

[Sweetfa]

And unlikely they'll do anything within a week too, a week is a stupid time to have made me promise, what's going to change in just a week? Time for them to find out my address maybe. Longer for them to find another way to stop me

 

[Deleted member 1465]

Is it worth a try?

 

[Sweetfa]

Is it worth a try?

I don't think it is

 

[Deleted member 1465]

It is your choice my friend. I don't want you to go but I'll respect whatever you do because I can't walk in your shoes. I hope you can decide what is right for you. If you stay you have people here who will listen. We can't fix it but we can try and understand.

 

[Sweetfa]

Just trying to work out if I need to take antiemetics again and how long I need to leave to do that

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

And unlikely they'll do anything within a week too, a week is a stupid time to have made me promise, what's going to change in just a week? Time for them to find out my address maybe. Longer for them to find another way to stop me

I'm not trying to encourage or discourage you to ctb here. I'm more about healthy boundaries and not carrying anyone else's stuff but my own.

My opinion is:

When it comes to your health and your body, you are responsible to yourself only, and no one else. They cannot live for you, suffer for you, or die for you.

They are responsible for their opinions, thoughts and feelings about what you do or don't do with/about your own body. Those things are in their yard, they do not have to take root and grow in your yard, and in fact are like invasive species taking over your own yard's ecosystem.

Edit: I was a little fired up. Sometimes other opinions and thoughts can benefit our personal ecosystems, but sometimes they're weeds and sometimes they really do unbalance the ecosystem. And even if they benefit, we still don't have to own other people's stuff.

 

[Soul]

@Sweetfa, I'm sorry about all the things that have led you to this point.

Can I just ask if it was someone from this forum you made the promise to? It sounds like someone you don't know in real life. Are they ready and able to take action to improve your situation in a meaningful way?

(((Hugs))) — I shall be glad if you decide to wait. But it should be *your* decision.

I hope everything goes the way that's right for you. x

 

[Sweetfa]

@Sweetfa, I'm sorry about all the things that have led you to this point.

Can I just ask if it was someone from this forum you made the promise to? It sounds like someone you don't know in real life. Are they ready and able to take action to improve your situation in a meaningful way?

(((Hugs))) — I shall be glad if you decide to wait. But it should be *your* decision.

I hope everything goes the way that's right for you. x

Not on this forum.

It's a 'guy', wants to cook me dinner this week. Thinks I have reasons to wait longer.
Him wanting to cook me dinner I worry is a ploy to get my address.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

It's morning here, so good morning if you are still there. Hoping you are okay.

 

[Sweetfa]

Still here, didn't sleep much. I felt sick so the cyclizine was useless, need better planning.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

Good morning stranger. Seems we all made it through the night. So you're going to see a mental health nurse today?

 

[Hopeindeath!]

I am so sorry for all your suffering. I wish I could make it better for you.

 

[Soul]

Not on this forum.

It's a 'guy', wants to cook me dinner this week. Thinks I have reasons to wait longer.
Him wanting to cook me dinner I worry is a ploy to get my address.

@Sweetfa, heed your instincts on that one: Since you don't want him to know your address, don't let him have it.

I'm sorry you had a rough night but at least you learned something about the how you respond to the protocol.

I feel for you but don't know how to help. (((hugs)))

 

[autumnal]

Plans this weekend.

Using the SN method, I've ordered SN from ebay 99.9% pure lab grade 100g.

Plan to use approx 25g following no food or drink for 4 hours (I'm diabetic so longer will make me feel unwell)

I already suffer critically low blood pressure so hoping unconsciousness will happen quickly.

I have some quetipine in from a past prescription but not sure how much needed as an antiemetic but it also has sedative and anti anxiety effect on me so might be useful. I also have cyclizine in but again I'm unsure if this is suitable antiemetic so need to do a bit more research before the weekend.

I'm on cholestramine too for diarrhea but not sure if this is considered as antacid so might need to purchase some other antacid before weekend too.

Analgesics I have are either codeine, paracetamol or tramadol.

I also have triptipan but assume that's useless without a migraine. Whatever, I'll get all I need for the weekend.

Regarding Quetapine, the dosage required for antiemetic effects seems to be between 300-400mg (or higher). This is a consensus of my findings as well as a post from another user who I believe successfully suicided with SN and used Quetapine as the antiemetic. What is still less clear is whether a single isolated dose at that level is enough, or whether you need to be on that dose for a longer period of time to build up levels beforehand. If you have enough supplies of Quetapine to put yourself on say a week of of 300-400mg per day, it would probably be the most productive option. That is of course assuming there aren't any negative interactions [drug interaction checker link] between Quetapine and your other current medications.

As a diabetic if you are on Exenatide (i.e. Byetta, Bydureon, Bydureon BCise etc.) check out my thoughts on how that might interact with SN protocol here.

Disclaimer: not a doctor.

 

[Sweetfa]

Good morning stranger. Seems we all made it through the night. So you're going to see a mental health nurse today?

Hi, no just district nurse today to dress my feet.

No idea when mht will be in touch, could be days, could be weeks.

No idea how long it will take acs to arrange help at home either.

Regarding Quetapine, the dosage required for antiemetic effects seems to be between 300-400mg (or higher). This is a consensus of my findings as well as a post from another user who I believe successfully suicided with SN and used Quetapine as the antiemetic. What is still less clear is whether a single isolated dose at that level is enough, or whether you need to be on that dose for a longer period of time to build up levels beforehand. If you have enough supplies of Quetapine to put yourself on say a week of of 300-400mg per day, it would probably be the most productive option. That is of course assuming there aren't any negative interactions [drug interaction checker link] between Quetapine and your other current medications.

As a diabetic if you are on Exenatide (i.e. Byetta, Bydureon, Bydureon BCise etc.) check out my thoughts on how that might interact with SN protocol here.

Disclaimer: not a doctor.

I'm only on humulin m3 insulin

@Sweetfa, heed your instincts on that one: Since you don't want him to know your address, don't let him have it.

I'm sorry you had a rough night but at least you learned something about the how you respond to the protocol.

I feel for you but don't know how to help. (((hugs)))

If it weren't for my intents, I would give him a chance.
I think more cyclizine next time. And no tramadol as think that's what made me feel sick

 

[Quarky00]

I feel like it's stupid even thinking they will help after years of bs from them. I am back to crying again and thinking I should still do it and break my promise of another week. Tonight felt right.
Open packet of sn right next to me... District nurse due in the morning.

I was recently in a similar situation, more false promises and just before ctb, and I pulled back. I'm doing okay but still regret that . When it was perfect timing and felt alright ...

I'm not saying you should do SN , only that I really understand when you miss the bus . It's not a happy occasion .



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antiemetic effects seems to be between 300-400mg (or higher). This is a consensus of my findings as well as a post from another user who I believe successfully suicided with SN and used Quetapine as the antiemetic. What is still less clear is whether a single isolated dose at that level is enough

Quetapine works over 15-30 hours and have accumulative effects over days . A single big dose is bad and can make a person go mental . I would not speculate about antipsychotics they are harsh ! Over time tolerance develops , brain adjustes , and it is okay .

Therfore that "300mg required" is unclear , as it's never a single dose -- and we do not know where that 300mg came from . It is stated in many articles but based on what research? . E.g. If one takes 100mg plasma concentration increases over time .


You really have no "findings" , just a number That is no disrespect to you -- I am disappointed at lack of scientific info about that. I share your frustration. It's annoying. They just threw a number ...


Please do not play with antipsychotics, the warning is in the name , i.e PSYCHOSIS .

 

[Largeletters]

Hope you'll be okay, @Sweetfa, although sometimes death = peace.

 

[autumnal]

I was recently in a similar situation, more false promises and just before ctb, and I pulled back. I'm doing okay but still regret that . When it was perfect timing and felt alright ...

I'm not saying you should do SN , only that I really understand when you miss the bus . It's not a happy occasion .



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Quetapine works over 15-30 hours and have accumulative effects over days . A single big dose is bad and can make a person go mental . I would not speculate about antipsychotics they are harsh ! Over time tolerance develops , brain adjustes , and it is okay .

Therfore that "300mg required" is unclear , as it's never a single dose -- and we do not know where that 300mg came from . It is stated in many articles but based on what research? . E.g. If one takes 100mg plasma concentration increases over time .


You really have no "findings" , just a number That is no disrespect to you -- I am disappointed at lack of scientific info about that. I share your frustration. It's annoying. They just threw a number ...


Please do not play with antipsychotics, the warning is in the name , i.e PSYCHOSIS .

No disrespect taken, but the page I linked to does seem pretty reputable and conclusive. I would strongly assume that their figures are based on research, probably the initial studies during the development and testing of the drug.

A single large dose of antipsychotics is very unlikely to 'make a person go mental'. What's far more likely is a more pronounced dose of any side effects of Quetapine.

I do share your doubts though over whether a single dose is enough for an antiemetic effect, or whether a more regular course is needed to build up levels of the drug in the body.

 

[Quarky00]

No disrespect taken, but the page I linked to does seem pretty reputable and conclusive. I would strongly assume that their figures are based on research, probably the initial studies during the development and testing of the drug.

A single large dose of antipsychotics is very unlikely to 'make a person go mental'. What's far more likely is a more pronounced dose of any side effects of Quetapine.

I do share your doubts though over whether a single dose is enough for an antiemetic effect, or whether a more regular course is needed to build up levels of the drug in the body.

Moved here

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...el-as-an-anti-emetic-for-sn.31647/post-607952

Sorry @Sweetfa for digression

 

[Sweetfa]

I started the process again. Just the SN to take now.
Feeling pretty scared, really hope this is as painless as can be
Took 40mg cyclizine this time about 2 hours ago

30mg nortryptaline

Full dose of asprin.

Have 25-30g of sn drink made up

 

[LMLN]

I started the process again. Just the SN to take now.
Feeling pretty scared, really hope this is as painless as can be
Took 40mg cyclizine this time about 2 hours ago

30mg nortryptaline

Full dose of asprin.

Have 25-30g of sn drink made up

I'm so sorry it's come to this for you and wish you peace in your decision. There is no shame in changing your mind anytime, we are here to talk.

 

[Quarky00]

@Sweetfa , it is hard , but if you feel you have do it and there's no other way , I accept this .

You seem very determined , though shaken by the end coming , and the momentous decision , which is normal . You said you've exhausted all options , and I believe you . I am not taking a position , I just plainly support you

Do not be afraid to catch the bus or miss this ride . Do what you feel is right .

You are not alone

Wishing you peace , peace , and more peace .

 

[Sweetfa]

Keep picking the cup up and then putting it down, not doubts just fear.

I want to do it before the window closes for the antiemetic to work.

Or take some more antiemetic to give myself a bit longer to pick up the courage. So much for anti anxiety meds lol

 

[itsbigbraintime]

Hey man, I hope you don't leave us but if you do I just want to wish you a comfortable journey wherever that may be.

 

[Sweetfa]

It's strange that I've not drank any nor had anything salty but can taste salt in the back of my throat already

 

[enjoy]

sending peaceful vibes your way. if you're not ready, you're not ready, and that's okay. we're here for you no matter what.

 

[Quarky00]

Keep picking the cup up and then putting it down, not doubts just fear.

I want to do it before the window closes for the antiemetic to work.

Or take some more antiemetic to give myself a bit longer to pick up the courage. So much for anti anxiety meds lol

You don't have an antiemetic window or limitation. You're free to do it when you please.

Sounds absolutely fine, play with glass:)

What are your fears?

Lol you did not take anti anxiety, I think ..

 

[Sweetfa]

My fears are what if it fails? What if it hurts? What if there's something after death worse even than this life?

 

[LMLN]

My fears are what if it fails? What if it hurts? What if there's something after death worse even than this life?

I understand. Those are the same fears I have. There's no rush to go through with this. You can always think it over and make sure this is what you want to do.

 

[Quarky00]

My fears are what if it fails? What if it hurts? What if there's something after death worse even than this life?

It won't fail
It may hurt a bit (take something to ease aftertaste)
Oh , cant answer about that death thingy , lol

You can take it whenever you want . You can call emergency services and get rescued after as well . Or not , and go through with it . You really can do whatever you want whenever you want .

(I assumw you have done your research, right?)