My therapist and I bonding over SN 😳

[Naked Weapon]

So I don't know what forces I had to please to get this therapist, but we have been having the strangest interactions these past few weeks and I thought you all might enjoy the most recent one.

First off, she's quite accepting of my desire to CTB, ever since I first started seeing her three years ago. She has a professional interest in keeping me alive, of course, but she accepts suicide as an option for anyone who finds it necessary. She also knows that I bought SN, and is supportive of me keeping it (locked up in a safe, of course). She asked me this week if I read the BBC articles about SN. I said yes, and that I was stressed out now because I had a package on the way from MDS and was worried that I would get a welfare check. To my shock, she said "Me too. Most therapists don't get told about 'new' methods from their clients because the clients are afraid of what might happen to them, but you got me curious and it looks like we ordered from the same place". We laughed about it for a while and it looks like we'll be asking each other about our package updates next time 'round. What is wrong with us

 

[bladerunner6]

Is she suicidal too?

 

[willitpass]

Regardless of your stance on suicide, I feel like this is rather unprofessional of her. If you feel supported by her that's wonderful but that seems like a very odd interaction from a therapist.

 

[Naked Weapon]

Is she suicidal too?

She seems to view it as some sort of "collector's item".

 

[Guy Smiley]

Wow, your therapist could be your suicide partner. That would probably be a first.

 

[Naked Weapon]

Regardless of your stance on suicide, I feel like this is rather unprofessional of her. If you feel supported by her that's wonderful but that seems like a very odd interaction from a therapist.

Oh I absolutely agree. I question her practises sometimes but I'd be more concerned if she weren't also the only therapist that's been helping me manage my disorders.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

So let me get this straight, she bought SN too?

 

[DreamEnd]

Holy shit I'm sorry but what???!!!! Well either way doesn't surprise me. Thats US/Canadian healthcare system lmao.

 

[Naked Weapon]

So let me get this straight, she bought SN too?

Yes she did; this situation feels like a comedy sketch.

Holy shit I'm sorry but what???!!!!

I know I'm just as confused as you are

 

[DeletedAccount0864]

Wow, USA, what a country. Don't immediately get locked up for mentioning CTB.

 

[DreamEnd]

Yes she did; this situation feels like a comedy sketch.

I know I'm just as confused as you are

This would be funny if it wasn't so sad. A desperate person seeks a therapist only to find that the therapist is also another desperate person who probably needs a therapist as well. What a life. Wow.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Yes she did; this situation feels like a comedy sketch.

I can't believe this, not that I'm saying I don't @Naked Weapon but for a therapist to just openly admit that they have the same method too seems really odd to me, rather unprofessional as @willitpass already said, that's the very last person I'd expect to talk about it like that.

the therapist is also another desperate person who probably needs a therapist as well. What a life. Wow.

Didn't expect that to be the case but sometimes, you never know.

 

[WhatPowerIs]

She seems to view it as some sort of "collector's item".

That sounds kind of disturbing.

 

[divinemistress36]

This is going to be a crazy Dateline episode if you two ctb together

 

[Deleted member 65988]

This is going to be a crazy Dateline episode if you two ctb together

If they get their sn that is.

 

[wait.what]

I want to see a positive spin on this because clearly you do, but my gut says red flag. She's got more power than you do in this situation…you could be forcibly hospitalized on her word. She's acting VERY peculiarly for a therapist, in fact she seems to have kicked the whole rulebook to the curb. What strange way will she jump next, and will you get hurt by it?

Obviously you've got to listen to your gut rather than mine, but I think if it were me, I'd be cagey about revealing anything more about the SN, and cautious with this therapist in general. It's natural to want to respond to openness with openness, but you're in a situation where criminal and civil laws apply first and foremost. The usual "rules" of purely social interactions are secondary at best, and may turn out not to apply at all. (The same caveats apply in interactions with the police as well, if it comes to that.)

 

[Naked Weapon]

This would be funny if it wasn't so sad. A desperate person seeks a therapist only to find that the therapist is also another desperate person who probably needs a therapist as well. What a life. Wow.

This might be a trend considering that I'm a psychology major.

Wow, USA, what a country. Don't immediately get locked up for mentioning CTB.

You just need to know all the language to avoid

 

[DreamEnd]

This might be a trend considering that I'm a psychology major.

You just need to know all the language to avoid

Hey you can be a wounded healer

 

[Captive_Mind515]

I find it quite refreshing tbh…

Your therapist could just be trying to build a good connection with you, by not automatically invalidating your thoughts/choices.

Maybe they've frequented this forum, and seen how infuriating it is for some people when some get told that our feelings are somehow "wrong" or "forbidden"…?

You can't stop people from thinking about or planning their ctb. Better to be open and have a healthy dialogue about it, rather than just taking it off the table when it's a reality of life.

 

[DoomValuer]

This might sound like a conspiracy theory but it sounds like she's just trying to build a healthy relationship to then convince you to not do it.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I suppose I can see why everyone is freaking out but from what you've told us about her- she believes people have the right to end their own lives. It seems entirely possible that she isn't deeply suicidal but like many of us- she isn't relishing old age. Maybe she bought it for future use. She can likely see all the media storm around it and is maybe predicting it will only become harder and harder to obtain- so, like many of us, she's getting it while she can to keep her options open. Just a theory of course.

I actually think I'd prefer to have a straight talking therapist rather than play the peculiar game of witholding the ideation bit for fear of heavy handed responses. Why shouldn't someone who is possibly suicidal themselves not be able to help another person? Especially if they have been trained to. They know you're seeing them to try and cope better with your life. Maybe to make it better. They can surely still give you advice on how to do that but at the same time, be honest and realistic about how you're actually feeling. I think I'd prefer a more realistic approach to an authorative, stern one.

 

[dinosavr]

I really wonder how your therapy sessions look like because it doesn't seem like it would make any sense at all if my therapist was pro death. Well, I think you can either recover OR die, not both.

 

[rozeske]

She might just be pretending to maybe try and help you or change your mind but It won't be farfetched for a therapist to be suicidal themselves. Suicidal people are not aliens. We all are just ordinary Individuals with different professions, one of which can be a therapist. I would advice you to always remember she still has the upper hand in this situation and be very cautious of what you say to her or what you do.

 

[The Schizoid]

If I were you, I'd stash the SN in a secret place. Maybe order more of it, and then bury some it. Place in places around your house in case she decides to tell on you and have the police confiscate it.

 

[Cakeisalie]

 

[Deleted member 65988]

since the user who incorrectly misread a story and thought someone vomited feces from SN

Ah that thread really made me question a lot of things and one of them was my patience.

 

[Dot]

This would be funny if it wasn't so sad. A desperate person seeks a therapist only to find that the therapist is also another desperate person who probably needs a therapist as well. What a life. Wow.

'Woundd healrs' r a thng

 

[Endisclose]

So I don't know what forces I had to please to get this therapist, but we have been having the strangest interactions these past few weeks and I thought you all might enjoy the most recent one.

First off, she's quite accepting of my desire to CTB, ever since I first started seeing her three years ago. She has a professional interest in keeping me alive, of course, but she accepts suicide as an option for anyone who finds it necessary. She also knows that I bought SN, and is supportive of me keeping it (locked up in a safe, of course). She asked me this week if I read the BBC articles about SN. I said yes, and that I was stressed out now because I had a package on the way from MDS and was worried that I would get a welfare check. To my shock, she said "Me too. Most therapists don't get told about 'new' methods from their clients because the clients are afraid of what might happen to them, but you got me curious and it looks like we ordered from the same place". We laughed about it for a while and it looks like we'll be asking each other about our package updates next time 'round. What is wrong with us

The only way this would make sense for me is if you were from France .

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

This seems (pardon my French) hella sus.

Your therapist is probably just trying to lull you into a false sense of security by relating to you in some way. Maybe that's what they were trained to do. Even if they really did order their own SN it's weird they'd keep it if they don't intend to use it.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Your therapist is probably just trying to lull you into a false sense of security by relating to you in some way. Maybe that's what they were trained to do.

I gotta agree with this because it was the first thing I suspected, no way I'd expect a therapist to be that open about a method.