Help My plan for CTB - please help

[maninblack]

Hello!

I'm new to this forum, and I apologise in forward for my (possibly) bad english.

I've made my plan for CTB. My method of choice would be weight assisted drowning in sea. I've choose sea over river because of place where I'm planning to do it is deep enough, which makes me more convenient that my method wouldn't fail. I've read some of older threads on drowning, and I'm fully aware of fact that drowning in a sea is more painful than in river...

So, plan is to take 20 kg kettlebel, 2 pcs padlock and 2 - 3 metre chain. On the one side of chain I will tie kettlebel, and the other I will tie tightly enough around my neck. In the end I will secure all with padlocks, lock it and keep keys aside before jumping in sea of a dock. Before jumping, and after I prepare everything mentioned I will drink sam alcohol mixed with diazepam and zolpidem tablets which should sedate me enough to reduce survival instinct to minimum. I should avoid any eating or sleeping 24 hours before execution.

I'm curious if, under named circumstances, 20 kgs of weights would be enough to drown, or to keep me underwater without tie my arms and legs? Should I use weighted vest instead of kettlebels?

Please help with advice, I really want to CTB ASAP, I don't want to bother you but I'm really really tired of life, and I'm in hurry to go. Please help.

 

[maninblack]

People, please. I just need info if 20 kilos or 44,09 pounds would be enough to drown in deep water...

 

[woxihuanni]

I'm sorry you are in such distress. I know nothing about drowning, you sure you couldn't hang around a little bit for a more peaceful method? Is something pressing you for time?

 

[maninblack]

I'm sorry you are in such distress. I know nothing about drowning, you sure you couldn't hang around a little bit for a more peaceful method? Is something pressing you for time?

I have no other options but to hang myself or to drown, and I'm more incline to drowning. Since I will be taking alcohol and pills I've listed, I think it should make drowning easier. I wouldn't be first nor last person to drown in the end, so...

Yes, I'm in pressure because I can't stand living this life no more. It's just too much. I just want to do it and go once and for all.

Anyone else? Can you please help with advice? I've read that people committed suicide by drowning using bags full of rocks, I think that would be equal to 20 kilos, right?

 

[Captive of Mind]

I have no other options but to hang myself or to drown, and I'm more incline to drowning. Since I will be taking alcohol and pills I've listed, I think it should make drowning easier. I wouldn't be first nor last person to drown in the end, so...

Yes, I'm in pressure because I can't stand living this life no more. It's just too much. I just want to do it and go once and for all.

Anyone else? Can you please help with advice? I've read that people committed suicide by drowning using bags full of rocks, I think that would be equal to 20 kilos, right?

Hey, I normally don't reply to things where I don't know about the method, but I sympathize with that panicked feeling you have right now and just having someone to give any answers at all would be relieving. I have been in this panicked/distressed state that you are describing and it is getting worse every day so it touches my heart to know you are going through this too.

My advice would be to take the weight you have to that location and test it to see what happens. Even if someone is able to tell you what worked for others, your situation might prove to be different. There are factors like bone density where some people are "negative buoyant" which means their bones are heavier than other peoples and they sink really fast and can't float. Also the type of clothes someone wears might play a factor on if you float more or less. The last thing would be that salt water has different buoyancy properties than fresh water.

So, the best thing to do is to do a trial run without locking up the chains and find out for sure if it will work. That will relieve any doubts in your mind and bring down the stress level if you choose to go through with it. Again, I have much sympathy for you and hate to see people who are this beat up by life. We didn't deserve this. We didn't ask to be here in this shit world either.

EDIT: I just realized this would mean that you would have to buy a second set of chains and weight because you will have to drop the first set when you do the trial run in order to swim to the surface. Personally, I think it would be worth it to buy this so that you won't have any doubts.

 

[maninblack]

Hey, I normally don't reply to things where I don't know about the method, but I sympathize with that panicked feeling you have right now and just having someone to give any answers at all would be relieving. I have been in this panicked/distressed state that you are describing and it is getting worse every day so it touches my heart to know you are going through this too.

My advice would be to take the weight you have to that location and test it to see what happens. Even if someone is able to tell you what worked for others, your situation might prove to be different. There are factors like bone density where some people are "negative buoyant" which means their bones are heavier than other peoples and they sink really fast and can't float. Also the type of clothes someone wears might play a factor on if you float more or less. The last thing would be that salt water has different buoyancy properties than fresh water.

So, the best thing to do is to do a trial run without locking up the chains and find out for sure if it will work. That will relieve any doubts in your mind and bring down the stress level if you choose to go through with it. Again, I have much sympathy for you and hate to see people who are this beat up by life. We didn't deserve this. We didn't to be here in this shit world either.

EDIT: I just realized this would mean that you would have to buy a second set of chains and weight because you will have to drop the first set when you do the trial run. Personally, I think it would be worth it to buy this so that you won't have any doubts.

First of all, thank you for your sympathies.

I don't have that kind of bones you've mentioned since I'm floating on water.

How about wearing cotton trainer, would that be fine or would it make sinking more difficult?

I personally think that in deep enough water, 20 kilos should be enough to keep me underwater for enough time to loose consciousness, that shouldn't be longer than 1 to 2 minutes. I'm not sure if testing would be possible because of untying a chain underwater.

Also, should I tie kettlebell closer to my neck or around my legs so it prevents me for walking underwater? Are there anyone who knows how much weights did people who committed suicide this way used?

 

[sadworld]

Mhhh... maybe you can use shallow water blackout to ctb, it's drowning but less painful. Anyway, i hope everything works out for you! sry but i dont know anything about weights

 

[maninblack]

Hello all.

Unfortunately, I'm still here. I've been talking with one guy who's diver, he said that 20 kilos is not a guarantee for me to drowning, so now I'm forced to consider different method. What's the best way to continue discussion, new thread or I can continue within this thread?

 

[nitroautnz]

20kg is not enough? I have no experience of drowing, but 20kg is heavy I would have though that it will be more than enough. You can continue this thread if you want to, or create a new one its your thread after all, so up to you :)

 

[maninblack]

20kg is not enough? I have no experience of drowing, but 20kg is heavy I would have though that it will be more than enough. You can continue this thread if you want to, or create a new one its your thread after all, so up to you :)

That guy, the diver who's working with me told me than when survival mechanisms kick in, that 20 kilos may not be enough to keep person underwater... I dunno honestly, never tried it. Alcohol may play a key role in lowering a chances to survive, but he told me that while diving, they,re all using 15 kilos jackets plus gear. You probably can't compare that with using only weights with purpose to kill oneself, I couldn't ask him directly...

 

[Infinite Conscious]

Personally, I wouldn't like to go through those 45-60 seconds of panic, under water, when your body will do anything to get back to the surface.
It would be a real tough struggle, you would be trying to carry those 20kg to the surface, but the weight being around your neck would make it more difficult.
You also never mentioned how much you weigh, how tall you are, what is your physical state, is your body in shape... all of which would play a role.
Sea water is salty and risky, constantly pushing your body up, I imagine it would be easier to drown in a river.

For god's sake, you can always hang yourself like the 80% of suicides throughout the world.
None of the methods are going to be pleasurable or entirely painless.
Dying prematurely is not easy.
You have to sacrifice something.

 

[Failedboy]

I advice hanging as well

 

[maninblack]

Personally, I wouldn't like to go through those 45-60 seconds of panic, under water, when your body will do anything to get back to the surface.
It would be a real tough struggle, you would be trying to carry those 20kg to the surface, but the weight being around your neck would make it more difficult.
You also never mentioned how much you weigh, how tall you are, what is your physical state, is your body in shape... all of which would play a role.
Sea water is salty and risky, constantly pushing your body up, I imagine it would be easier to drown in a river.

For god's sake, you can always hang yourself like the 80% of suicides throughout the world.
None of the methods are going to be pleasurable or entirely painless.
Dying prematurely is not easy.
You have to sacrifice something.

I got your point, but most of common methods like drowning, hanging, cutting... are including those 60 seconds of panic.

I was just planning to mention hanging as a method, I just wasn't sure if i should start a new thread or continue here. I was considering hanging in the attic of a building where I live. I'm planning to do it overnight when anyone sleeps so probably no one can't hear my. What do you think?
Somebody wrote on one of the threads "... don't be a fool and consider other methods, HANG YOURSELF if you wanna be sure..." but I cannot find that thread right now. It says a lot...

My question is: do you find suicide wiki on hanging is fair enough tutorial to execute hanging properly and could I take some benzos with alcohol before actually hang myself?

 

[Failedboy]

Alcohol and benzos will be helpful

 

[MiseryLovesMyCompany]

I got your point, but most of common methods like drowning, hanging, cutting... are including those 60 seconds of panic.

I was just planning to mention hanging as a method, I just wasn't sure if i should start a new thread or continue here. I was considering hanging in the attic of a building where I live. I'm planning to do it overnight when anyone sleeps so probably no one can't hear my. What do you think?
Somebody wrote on one of the threads "... don't be a fool and consider other methods, HANG YOURSELF if you wanna be sure..." but I cannot find that thread right now. It says a lot...

My question is: do you find suicide wiki on hanging is fair enough tutorial to execute hanging properly and could I take some benzos with alcohol before actually hang myself?

Unconsciousness with hanging is very likely to happen way faster than 60 seconds.
It is risky to do it while there are other people in the house, you have no way to know how loud you'll be, especially at night when there are not many sounds, though it depends on where you live.
The wiki contains enough information, but it might be interesting to read the megathread. Benzos with alcohol is fine but don't knock yourself out before you get to the hanging part.

 

[Infinite Conscious]

I got your point, but most of common methods like drowning, hanging, cutting... are including those 60 seconds of panic.

I was just planning to mention hanging as a method, I just wasn't sure if i should start a new thread or continue here. I was considering hanging in the attic of a building where I live. I'm planning to do it overnight when anyone sleeps so probably no one can't hear my. What do you think?
Somebody wrote on one of the threads "... don't be a fool and consider other methods, HANG YOURSELF if you wanna be sure..." but I cannot find that thread right now. It says a lot...

My question is: do you find suicide wiki on hanging is fair enough tutorial to execute hanging properly and could I take some benzos with alcohol before actually hang myself?

The attic at night should be fine.
But by all means do full suspension, not partial, if you want to be sure.
And there wouldn't be 60 seconds of panic, maybe 10-15 at most, before you blackout.
Yes, benzos with alcohol prior to the attempt would help... but don't get too wasted, and maybe you should tie the knots before your judgement gets impaired.

Suicide wiki is fine, and this as well... (but don't bother with partial, it's pain in the as*)

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-to-hang-yourself.1183/

 

[MiseryLovesMyCompany]

But by all means do full suspension, not partial, if you want to be sure.

Yup, if you have a high enough anchor point, then there's less chance of failure in case you do full. Partial might be less uncomfortable as only part of your weight presses your neck, but the downside is that you have a lower chance of success, because of the same reason that it can be more comfortable.

 

[maninblack]

Ok, so brief check: partial suspension is when your body touches the ground, contrary to full, when your body is in the air, did I get this right?

Thank you for your answers.

 

[Worndown]

If in doubt, take your weight to a beach snd see if you can swim with it. I bet not. We humans float, but barely.

 

[MiseryLovesMyCompany]

If in doubt, take your weight to a beach snd see if you can swim with it. I bet not. We humans float, but barely.

SI can greatly increase strength so it would be different.

 

[Ghost2211]

I really don't know if that's enough weight. If you're not unconscious you'll thrash and swim without intending to. I know it feels like your options are limited, but hanging is available to literally everyone. I hope you take the time to read the recourses and find a method that brings you a more peaceful end.