My Plan A is SN, but I need a Plan B. Any ideas?

[kai2001]

Maybe I'm overthinking this, but I found a website that I could order SN from. I live in Germany and the online shop is Polish. It looks trustworthy and I've only read good things about it, but I'm worried about legal consequences if I'm caught, because it's not legal to own SN in Germany as a private individual without a certificate of competency.

So my plan A is: I order the SN, everything goes according to plan and it arrives, I take it and it's over. That would be perfect.

But I'm also looking for a plan B. What do I do if they check my package and find the SN? I need a different method so I can die before they get ahold of me and punish me. Any suggestions?

 

[LifeHasNoOptIn]

I"m not really sure what "crime" you would be committing. TBF I don't know the laws in Germany, but I can't imagine that SN would be on a list similar to hard drugs like fent or cocaine for which I would expect some consequences if caught trying to import. Its not like there is any fun factor to taking SN which seems to be the main constant among heavily policed substances. It also does have legitimate uses as opposed to say cyanide which obviously has no fun factor either.

All that aside, on to the plan B question. I would say that more comes down to what is available to you both monetarily and physically. I would personally look to the exit bag as an alternative but that requires some funding as well as some crafting skill and I would honestly just make that plan A if I had it in the first place so I'm going to guess that's not on the options list. CO could also be an option, but also involves a good bit of setup to get right and is almost a no go if you don't live alone.

That mainly leaves the the more dirty direct options like hanging or jumping neither of which are particularly appealing to me but should function in a pinch. I'm just going to assume that in Germany you don't have the wild west gun option that we do here in the states.

Hope things work out for you and are able to find peace whatever you decide.

 

[befree]

Maybe I'm overthinking this, but I found a website that I could order SN from. I live in Germany and the online shop is Polish. It looks trustworthy and I've only read good things about it, but I'm worried about legal consequences if I'm caught, because it's not legal to own SN in Germany as a private individual without a certificate of competency.

So my plan A is: I order the SN, everything goes according to plan and it arrives, I take it and it's over. That would be perfect.

But I'm also looking for a plan B. What do I do if they check my package and find the SN? I need a different method so I can die before they get ahold of me and punish me. Any suggestions?

The country you mentioned is an EU-country, so no customs would be involved. By the way, I think it´s not a good idea to mention the country where a supplier is located. This alerts the authorities and they know where to look. I know of a case where someone in Germany got into big trouble with police and customs for ordering SN from a non-EU country.

Other methods as plan B depend on several points. Money, availability of the required equipment, personal life situation, country...

What methods are you thinking of ? Have you read books and guides ?

 

[Hopeless_brat]

Maybe I'm overthinking this, but I found a website that I could order SN from. I live in Germany and the online shop is Polish. It looks trustworthy and I've only read good things about it, but I'm worried about legal consequences if I'm caught, because it's not legal to own SN in Germany as a private individual without a certificate of competency.

So my plan A is: I order the SN, everything goes according to plan and it arrives, I take it and it's over. That would be perfect.

But I'm also looking for a plan B. What do I do if they check my package and find the SN? I need a different method so I can die before they get ahold of me and punish me. Any suggestions?

Use nitrogen gas for painless death

 

[kai2001]

I"m not really sure what "crime" you would be committing. TBF I don't know the laws in Germany, but I can't imagine that SN would be on a list similar to hard drugs like fent or cocaine for which I would expect some consequences if caught trying to import. Its not like there is any fun factor to taking SN which seems to be the main constant among heavily policed substances. It also does have legitimate uses as opposed to say cyanide which obviously has no fun factor either.

All that aside, on to the plan B question. I would say that more comes down to what is available to you both monetarily and physically. I would personally look to the exit bag as an alternative but that requires some funding as well as some crafting skill and I would honestly just make that plan A if I had it in the first place so I'm going to guess that's not on the options list. CO could also be an option, but also involves a good bit of setup to get right and is almost a no go if you don't live alone.

That mainly leaves the the more dirty direct options like hanging or jumping neither of which are particularly appealing to me but should function in a pinch. I'm just going to assume that in Germany you don't have the wild west gun option that we do here in the states.

Hope things work out for you and are able to find peace whatever you decide.

Honestly, I'm no expert when it comes to law. I'm probably just intimidated by all the hearsay and I'm a very anxious person in general who tends to overthink a lot.

 

[LifeHasNoOptIn]

Honestly, I'm no expert when it comes to law. I'm probably just intimidated by all the hearsay and I'm a very anxious person in general who tends to overthink a lot.

That's certainly fair. I would probably be the same tbh as I am big believer in "better safe than sorry" when it comes to legal entanglements. I am fortunate that SN is still accessible here in the states. Hope things work out for you.

 

[Euthanza]

I was planning my favorite N (Nembutal dan Nitrogen) but as times go now it looks more not feasible. I'm currently ready with my SN regimen, I have all means for only $26,7.

In case I got access to Morphine then probably I will switch to DDMAPh exit but the cost will be sky high. Amitriptyline alone can cost me 10 times SN.

 

[sewercide]

Carbon Monoxide or Inert Gas method

 

[Jrmull1993]

@kai2001 Do your two plans need to be completely separate ones? For example, my plan involves combining the Sodium Azide method with a self inflected GSW.

There are many others on the forums who have also combined plans in lieu of having 2 completely independent ones.

 

[The Blackangel]

SN is an acronym I'm unfamiliar with. What is it?

 

[Jrmull1993]

SN is an acronym I'm unfamiliar with. What is it?

Sodium Nitrite.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/acronyms-on-here-for-new-users.6031/