My idea for drowning - handcuffing myself to a dock's ladder

[Deleted member 9355]

Hey guys and girls.

I've been thinking about a kind of original idea (I think) which involves drowning.

The idea consists of using metal handcuffs to chain myself to a ladder on a dock (see picture). I would go down under water and chain myself to the lowest step or on the pipe beside it.

Do you guys think this could work? Of course, I would have to try a few types of places to find the optimal ladder that has some kind of round pipe that I can put the handcuffs around.


I'm not concerned with the painfulness of the method, my main concern is that it must work. There must not be risk of failure.

Advantages:
* No risk of being saved. Even if someone were to find me, what could they possibly do? (I would do it in the early morning hours also)
* Death is fairly certain, I think. Either something happens in the beginning (like the handcuffs breaking) or I won't be able to break free as I will be uncouncious before really dying.

Disadvantages:
* Really, really unpleasant.
* Have to find some ladder that goes deep down enough for me to not be able to put my head above water.

What do you guys think?
As I wrote, my only concern is that it HAS to work the first time.

 

[Good4Nothing]

Sounds terrifying.

 

[CAH]

Hey guys and girls.

I've been thinking about a kind of original idea (I think) which involves drowning.

The idea consists of using metal handcuffs to chain myself to a ladder on a dock (see picture). I would go down under water and chain myself to the lowest step or on the pipe beside it.

Do you guys think this could work? Of course, I would have to try a few types of places to find the optimal ladder that has some kind of round pipe that I can put the handcuffs around.


I'm not concerned with the painfulness of the method, my main concern is that it must work. There must not be risk of failure.

Advantages:
* No risk of being saved. Even if someone were to find me, what could they possibly do? (I would do it in the early morning hours also)
* Death is fairly certain, I think. Either something happens in the beginning (like the handcuffs breaking) or I won't be able to break free as I will be uncouncious before really dying.

Disadvantages:
* Really, really unpleasant.
* Have to find some ladder that goes deep down enough for me to not be able to put my head above water.

What do you guys think?
As I wrote, my only concern is that it HAS to work the first time.

I would take really heavy sedatives.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I hope people are kind to you in their responses!

This seems like a doable idea. If you can work up the nerve to do it, once the handcuffs are locked, it should work. You'll have to deal with the intensity for a bit, but it will pass. If they're law enforcement quality handcuffs they won't break.

It will be very challenging for someone to rescue you, but not impossible. I would research how long one after drowning one can be resuscitated.

I would scope out the location several times during the hours I wanted to do it, to see if people might show up during that time.

I would also do a lot of visualizing in advance so that I could be as prepared and calm as possible.

I agree with the idea of sedatives, or taking something like benzos or propanolol to help with anxiousness. I'd research them first to make sure I didn't take too much, especially if it's something like Benadryl, which can have reverse effects after a certain amount. It would be helpful to already know how the medicine affects you and experiment with it beforehand so you know when to take it and how much. And I would include that in the visualizing.

 

[TonyThat2003]

I think you should use morphine or something that is going to make you pass out.

 

[Deleted member 9355]

I don't have access to sedatives :( and I'm afraid I won't be able to time it well so that maybe they kick in too early or don't help because of the short timespan of drowning. I just want to have an idea that would work, i don't really care about how horrible it is. Lots of people have drowned before and I would only have to do it once,, hehe. My living situation is really terrible as I have a permanent condition that reduces my quality of life to zero.

 

[FriendofDeath]

I agree, it sounds terrifying and yes, effective. Just recently saw a PBS show where a young woman was hiding under a houseboat. Her foot gets caught in the rope around the ladder.

Is there a reason you've chosen this method?

 

[BaconCheeseburger]

The panic that comes with drowning would be too much for me endure, personally. Be sure that this is the method you 110% want to use before going ahead with it

 

[Deleted member 9355]

Thanks you for replying guys, I feel some kind of relief now that I can discuss this.

Yes, I have chosen it purely because I think it would work. I'm not the handy type and don't think I could manage hanging as so many things can go wrong, and I don't want to take a chance on other uncertain methods. Also this method has the benefit of not able to chicken out of. Once I'm chained to the ladder, there will be no chance that I will be able to free myself.

 

[Mundi]

Wow. That is...seriously terrifying. As far as effective, yeah, I think it would be very effective. You wouldn't last long even if someone happened across you and tried to get you out. But holy shit is that

 

[autumnal]

Hey guys and girls.

I've been thinking about a kind of original idea (I think) which involves drowning.

The idea consists of using metal handcuffs to chain myself to a ladder on a dock (see picture). I would go down under water and chain myself to the lowest step or on the pipe beside it.

Do you guys think this could work? Of course, I would have to try a few types of places to find the optimal ladder that has some kind of round pipe that I can put the handcuffs around.


I'm not concerned with the painfulness of the method, my main concern is that it must work. There must not be risk of failure.

Advantages:
* No risk of being saved. Even if someone were to find me, what could they possibly do? (I would do it in the early morning hours also)
* Death is fairly certain, I think. Either something happens in the beginning (like the handcuffs breaking) or I won't be able to break free as I will be uncouncious before really dying.

Disadvantages:
* Really, really unpleasant.
* Have to find some ladder that goes deep down enough for me to not be able to put my head above water.

What do you guys think?
As I wrote, my only concern is that it HAS to work the first time.

Do bear in mind that if you are observed doing this, or found shortly afterwards, the first emergency responders to arrive are likely to be police who will all be carrying handcuff keys.

Agree with others on the absolutely terrifying nature of this method

I would take really heavy sedatives.

Hell, I feel like taking really heavy sedatives just to handle having read about that planned method!

 

[allym101]

Hey guys and girls.

I've been thinking about a kind of original idea (I think) which involves drowning.

The idea consists of using metal handcuffs to chain myself to a ladder on a dock (see picture). I would go down under water and chain myself to the lowest step or on the pipe beside it.

Do you guys think this could work? Of course, I would have to try a few types of places to find the optimal ladder that has some kind of round pipe that I can put the handcuffs around.


I'm not concerned with the painfulness of the method, my main concern is that it must work. There must not be risk of failure.

Advantages:
* No risk of being saved. Even if someone were to find me, what could they possibly do? (I would do it in the early morning hours also)
* Death is fairly certain, I think. Either something happens in the beginning (like the handcuffs breaking) or I won't be able to break free as I will be uncouncious before really dying.

Disadvantages:
* Really, really unpleasant.
* Have to find some ladder that goes deep down enough for me to not be able to put my head above water.

What do you guys think?
As I wrote, my only concern is that it HAS to work the first time.

For your own sake, please please PLEASE try to pass out before you fully submerge into the water. Drowning is incredibly painful and unless that's something you're looking for in a method, I really hope you can at least try to ctb a little more peacefully. I fully respect your decision on this method and if it's something you're willing to fully go through with, there's a high success rate, but be very wary about the pain.

 

[Living sucks]

Ok I am not being disrespectful, mean or rude in anyway. But the first thing that came to my mind when I read this was

Spoiler

FUCK THAT!

as in, I'm scared just reading it.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

For your own sake, please please PLEASE try to pass out before you fully submerge into the water.

I hear your distress about this (apologies if I didn't quite accurately identify the feeling), it's a stress-inducing idea! But I just wanted to gently say that passing out before fully submerging wouldn't be possible in this scenario. The OP's goal is to handcuff him/herself to a rung on a ladder well below the surface of the water. S/he has to be conscious to do this.

 

[Pryras]

Are you interested in other options besides drowning? It seems like your main concern is reliability and tbh you *might* be able to pull this off but you will be in extreme agony and panic for your final moments.

 

[allym101]

I hear your distress about this (apologies if I didn't quite accurately identify the feeling), it's a stress-inducing idea! But I just wanted to gently say that passing out before fully submerging wouldn't be possible in this scenario. The OP's goal is to handcuff him/herself to a rung on a ladder well below the surface of the water. S/he has to be conscious to do this.

ah.. you do have a point there

 

[Deleted member 9355]

Yes, it is undoubtely going to suck. But I HAVE to have a certain method. I have neurological condition that makes my life hell on a second to second basis. Every waking moment is pure hell. And I have no experience of self harm in any way, so it has to work on the first try.

My alternatives are:
1) Hanging - but I can't tie a knot. And I don't have anything at home to tie it to. I don't know if I'm gonna go for suffocation or blocking of the blood flow ect. It seems to risky, the risk of harming myself even more is too great.
2) Ordering SN - Yeah, I could do it. But from where? And what brand? And how much? What about anti enemics? What happens if I throw up? Or panick and call the ambulance? Or make noises so my neighbours hear? Or Survive it but with damage? How lethal is this method really? To me it sounds too good to be true that you can take certain grams of this and then be assured to die. If it works that way I stand corrected of course, but I want a certain death.
3) Nembutal - same as above, with the added difficulty of getting a reliable seller & getting it across customs

In the end, this drowning method is HORRIBLE. But my life is hell, a neurological hell from which there is no relief. I suffer every second. I'm not going to be cured. I have to die. This method is the closest thing to a certain death I can think of, and I don't need any knowlegde, don't need how to tie a knot, don't have to try with pills which can have a million outcomes and so forth.

Sorry If I came across as aggressive, it wasn't my intention to be that against you guys. I'm just really frustrated about my situation. I live in a country where it is impossible to buy firearms, next to impossible to get stuff into customs and so forth.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Ordering SN - Yeah, I could do it. But from where? And what brand? And how much? What about anti enemics? What happens if I throw up? Or panick and call the ambulance? Or make noises so my neighbours hear? Or Survive it but with damage? How lethal is this method really? To me it sounds too good to be true that you can take certain grams of this and then be assured to die. If it works that way I stand corrected of course, but I want a certain death.

The concern about being heard is valid.

Other than that, I've thoroughly read everything available about the method, did a journal for planning preparation, even accidentally got a little bit of it my system and felt some of the symptoms. I'm confident that if I use 25g of SN to 50 ml of water and am not interrupted, I will die. It sounds like the first step is for you to find out if you can get it in your country.

Otherwise, I totally get what you're trying to do, and I think most folks do. You haven't been catching flak here like I expected. I hope you don't take it on that people are having a strong response to the method here. Reading it is like experiencing it. And it's natural to not want someone else to do what one would not themselves do. But you're the one who has to actually experience it, and if you're confident and committed, then you can do it. People have been committing suicide since forever, and if they are determined as you seem to be, they find a way no matter how challenging the method may be. If you have made your choice, and if this method seems right to you because it satisfies your requirements, is possible to accomplish, and you are capable, then of course it's good to check in with yourself for reasonable doubts to address. If they are satisfied, I'd say, stay your course! (Note that I'm not encouraging you to ctb, I'm encouraging you in your right to choose and determining your own course of action, whatever your choice and determinations may be.)

Sending much respect to you for being courageously vulnerable enough to put this out there so you could get the support you seek.


P.S. I wasn't dogging on any members for their comments, just trying to help the OP to not take them as negation or rejection if they didn't feel like they aligned with what s/he is seeking.

 

[Deleted member 9355]

Great post, GoodPersonEffed. Thanks man. Yeah, I guess I'm going to have to keep thinking this through. It will be hard for sure, and I'm not going to do it soon. Heck, maybe not even this summer or year, but I need to have some certain alternative.

 

[Varstraben]

It's sound terrifying ... The only hope that could come is sleeping from hypothermia before the water reach the middle of the head, with the high stress that could cause I'm not sure that heavy drugs should be enough

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

This sounds like a bad way to CTB. When you're under water, chained to a ladder, once your SI kicks in, and you want to surface but can't, CTB'ing will feel like being one of the victims in the movie "Hostel" or "Saw". You'll still achieve your goal, but at a very high cost: your final moments before boarding the bus will be pure torture.

 

[happy?1270]

Dang crazy but now I'm considering that oml

 

[restingspot]

Hey guys and girls.

I've been thinking about a kind of original idea (I think) which involves drowning.

The idea consists of using metal handcuffs to chain myself to a ladder on a dock (see picture). I would go down under water and chain myself to the lowest step or on the pipe beside it.

Do you guys think this could work? Of course, I would have to try a few types of places to find the optimal ladder that has some kind of round pipe that I can put the handcuffs around.


I'm not concerned with the painfulness of the method, my main concern is that it must work. There must not be risk of failure.

Advantages:
* No risk of being saved. Even if someone were to find me, what could they possibly do? (I would do it in the early morning hours also)
* Death is fairly certain, I think. Either something happens in the beginning (like the handcuffs breaking) or I won't be able to break free as I will be uncouncious before really dying.

Disadvantages:
* Really, really unpleasant.
* Have to find some ladder that goes deep down enough for me to not be able to put my head above water.

What do you guys think?
As I wrote, my only concern is that it HAS to work the first time.

This was the same way a victim died in a murder mystery movie except it was to the lowest rung of the pool ladder by the foot. Anyway drowning is a horrible way to go imho.

 

[Whale_bones]

And I have no experience of self harm in any way, so it has to work on the first try.

Without any significant previous experiences of self harm, it is extremely hard for the human mind to imagine how tortuous this method will actually be. I don't want to list the graphic details, we can all come up with them, but it's how we're wired; the moment excruciating pain starts, it is all the mind sees and it screams stop, stop, stop. Only the tiniest ounce of that is produced when trying to imagine it, because your brain knows it's not happening now and saves 99% of the sensations for the actual event. I'm not trying to sound dramatic or scare you, I just wanted to mention this as something to really keep in mind. I don't want you to go through far more suffering than you ever expected, especially if there are other methods available to you.

 

[Crumbledank]

Hey guys and girls.

I've been thinking about a kind of original idea (I think) which involves drowning.

The idea consists of using metal handcuffs to chain myself to a ladder on a dock (see picture). I would go down under water and chain myself to the lowest step or on the pipe beside it.

Do you guys think this could work? Of course, I would have to try a few types of places to find the optimal ladder that has some kind of round pipe that I can put the handcuffs around.


I'm not concerned with the painfulness of the method, my main concern is that it must work. There must not be risk of failure.

Advantages:
* No risk of being saved. Even if someone were to find me, what could they possibly do? (I would do it in the early morning hours also)
* Death is fairly certain, I think. Either something happens in the beginning (like the handcuffs breaking) or I won't be able to break free as I will be uncouncious before really dying.

Disadvantages:
* Really, really unpleasant.
* Have to find some ladder that goes deep down enough for me to not be able to put my head above water.

What do you guys think?
As I wrote, my only concern is that it HAS to work the first time.

Why would you put yourself through this suffering? Surely jumping from a suitable height is as guaranteed and a lot quicker.

If you do do this, I'd keep a signed statement on your body starting what you're doing etc. Might save law enforcement the bother of investigating a weird "murder".

 

[Soul]

I'm worried about what @autumnal mentions: first responders being equipped to get the handcuff off, or SI strong enough to get your hand out even if it entails deglovement.

Please don't rush into anything, and be careful.

 

[autumnal]

I'm worried about what @autumnal mentions: first responders being equipped to get the handcuff off, or SI strong enough to get your hand out even if it entails deglovement.

Please don't rush into anything, and be careful.

@oirwojt, there is also the significant risk of you being resuscitated 'successfully' even after a reasonable time underwater but ending up with brain damage or other massive impairment.

 

[Close_to_freedom]

Worst idea ever

 

[Dead beat dad]

Hey guys and girls.

I've been thinking about a kind of original idea (I think) which involves drowning.

The idea consists of using metal handcuffs to chain myself to a ladder on a dock (see picture). I would go down under water and chain myself to the lowest step or on the pipe beside it.

Do you guys think this could work? Of course, I would have to try a few types of places to find the optimal ladder that has some kind of round pipe that I can put the handcuffs around.


I'm not concerned with the painfulness of the method, my main concern is that it must work. There must not be risk of failure.

Advantages:
* No risk of being saved. Even if someone were to find me, what could they possibly do? (I would do it in the early morning hours also)
* Death is fairly certain, I think. Either something happens in the beginning (like the handcuffs breaking) or I won't be able to break free as I will be uncouncious before really dying.

Disadvantages:
* Really, really unpleasant.
* Have to find some ladder that goes deep down enough for me to not be able to put my head above water.

What do you guys think?
As I wrote, my only concern is that it HAS to work the first time.

Wouldn't need the handcuffs for this to work. Anyone who trys this will have ball of cast iron. Jump off the dock and sink.
On a serious note, this sounds unreliable, terrifying and painful, much better options out there.
If you're suffering my brother I'm so sorry, please be careful and I hope light shines on you.
DBD

 

[rikamonie]

have you read about the shallow water drowning method? its where you make yourself pass out in water before u drown so u wont struggle and feel pain ): i couldnt imagine suffocating to death in water