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happysunnydayy

happysunnydayy

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My friend from India hanged himself full suspension from a ceiling fan. He passed out in under 10 seconds (counted in his head and he used rope) however the fan broke and when he woke up he was laying and couldn't move for an hour. My question is for how long was he in the air until he fell down? Surely that much time wasn't enough to kill him or cause permanent damage (he's ok now fully) Was it less than a minute? he doesn't have any idea. It couldn't be for more than a few minutes right? I read that more than that and you're dead atleast brain dead unconscious on life support kinda.
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Lack of oxygen for even a few minutes can cause insane and permanent damage.
 
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Lack of oxygen for even a few minutes can cause insane and permanent damage.
He is doing fine. Does that mean he was hanging for a few seconds only barely ?
 
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Why do you want to know the exact time? It is impossible to know it afterwards.
 
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I'm wondering how he got away without any brain damage
This is an informative research to read:

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Neurological outcome in near-hanging patients: A retrospective multicenter study

Twenty-six patients had a good neurological outcome, and the remaining 44 had a poor neurological outcome. There were no significant differences in sex, age, or vital signs between the two groups.

The hanging time was 15 minutes in the poor neurological outcome group, which was significantly longer than the time of 10 minutes in the good neurological outcome group. However, there were no differences in hanging height, type, or marks between the two groups.

Cerebral Performance Category (CPC)

CPC 1, good recovery; 2, moderate disability; 3, severe disability; 4, vegetative state; and 5, death due to a comatose state or brain death

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The CPC score is one of the commonly used methods to examine the primary neurological outcome in cardiac arrest studies and the patients' mental status, daily function, and overall cerebral function including cognitive and executive function are examined

Near-hanging patients were grouped according to the presence or absence of out-of-hospital cardiac arrest, thus yielding more practical clinical information. In near-hanging injury without cardiac arrest, most patients were discharged with a good neurological outcome.

Full article: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7875384/
 

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The results of this study are a little disturbing to me. It is state of the art concerning heart attacs, that 10 minutes after a cardiac arrest brain death is inevitable. For the brain it makes no difference whether the heart does not beat anymore or the blood flow through the brain is blocked completly. So I was sure that I will be brain dead after 10 minutes if I hanged myself correct. This study unveils that people who hanged up to 10 minutes survived even when their heartbeat has stopped temporary. This means that one should hang at least half an hour and that there is no safety margin in this time.
 
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Ive seen people who hang themselves start doing this hand curling inward motion (right after a few seconds of hanging themselves) which is apparently sign of severe brain damage then how can you survive after that even after 10 minutes?
This is an informative research to read:

.....
Neurological outcome in near-hanging patients: A retrospective multicenter study

Twenty-six patients had a good neurological outcome, and the remaining 44 had a poor neurological outcome. There were no significant differences in sex, age, or vital signs between the two groups.

The hanging time was 15 minutes in the poor neurological outcome group, which was significantly longer than the time of 10 minutes in the good neurological outcome group. However, there were no differences in hanging height, type, or marks between the two groups.

Cerebral Performance Category (CPC)

CPC 1, good recovery; 2, moderate disability; 3, severe disability; 4, vegetative state; and 5, death due to a comatose state or brain death

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The CPC score is one of the commonly used methods to examine the primary neurological outcome in cardiac arrest studies and the patients' mental status, daily function, and overall cerebral function including cognitive and executive function are examined

Near-hanging patients were grouped according to the presence or absence of out-of-hospital cardiac arrest, thus yielding more practical clinical information. In near-hanging injury without cardiac arrest, most patients were discharged with a good neurological outcome.

Full article: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7875384
The results of this study are a little disturbing to me. It is state of the art concerning heart attacs, that 10 minutes after a cardiac arrest brain death is inevitable. For the brain it makes no difference whether the heart does not beat anymore or the blood flow through the brain is blocked completly. So I was sure that I will be brain dead after 10 minutes if I hanged myself correct. This study unveils that people who hanged up to 10 minutes survived even when their heartbeat has stopped temporary. This means that one should hang at least half an hour and that there is no safety margin in this time.
My friend who lost her son to hanging told me he was found after 5 minutes of hanging. And he wasn't able to recover, brain dead and unconscious permanently.. so I'm not sure ..
This is an informative research to read:

.....
Neurological outcome in near-hanging patients: A retrospective multicenter study

Twenty-six patients had a good neurological outcome, and the remaining 44 had a poor neurological outcome. There were no significant differences in sex, age, or vital signs between the two groups.

The hanging time was 15 minutes in the poor neurological outcome group, which was significantly longer than the time of 10 minutes in the good neurological outcome group. However, there were no differences in hanging height, type, or marks between the two groups.

Cerebral Performance Category (CPC)

CPC 1, good recovery; 2, moderate disability; 3, severe disability; 4, vegetative state; and 5, death due to a comatose state or brain death

View attachment 167962

The CPC score is one of the commonly used methods to examine the primary neurological outcome in cardiac arrest studies and the patients' mental status, daily function, and overall cerebral function including cognitive and executive function are examined

Near-hanging patients were grouped according to the presence or absence of out-of-hospital cardiac arrest, thus yielding more practical clinical information. In near-hanging injury without cardiac arrest, most patients were discharged with a good neurological outcome.

Full article: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7875384/
Well it doesn't tell for how long we're they hanged but most did poor in CPC score. Means they're either legally brain dead ( which is good) and unconscious or just paralysed while being conscious.. seems like a hit or miss.
The results of this study are a little disturbing to me. It is state of the art concerning heart attacs, that 10 minutes after a cardiac arrest brain death is inevitable. For the brain it makes no difference whether the heart does not beat anymore or the blood flow through the brain is blocked completly. So I was sure that I will be brain dead after 10 minutes if I hanged myself correct. This study unveils that people who hanged up to 10 minutes survived even when their heartbeat has stopped temporary. This means that one should hang at least half an hour and that there is no safety margin in this time.
For how long have you been hanged ?
 
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Ive seen people who hang themselves start doing this hand curling inward motion (right after a few seconds of hanging themselves) which is apparently sign of severe brain damage then how can you survive after that even after 10 minutes?


My friend who lost her son to hanging told me he was found after 5 minutes of hanging. And he wasn't able to recover, brain dead and unconscious permanently.. so I'm not sure ..

Well it doesn't tell for how long we're they hanged but most did poor in CPC score. Means they're either legally brain dead ( which is good) and unconscious or just paralysed while being conscious.. seems like a hit or miss.

For how long have you been hanged ?
If you read carefully, those people were "rescued" in time and immediately treated by medical personnel.

The after-effects will vary from person to person, I can only cite real, scientific studies. I don't make assumptions about anything.

The key will always be the longer you hang without interruption, the better. You'll be sure to die and not be saved. Apply your full weight correctly, a good rope and anchor point that supports your weight, and a knot that tightens when you apply your weight.

It would be very irrational to think that you would die in just 10 minutes, wouldn't it? It would be the method chosen by everyone.

Post in thread 'Of the available methods, which is safest—least likely to leave me vegetable if it fails?'

And in theory (taking the highest value) weigh at least 35 kg to block all arteries (carotid and vertebral) and trachea.

Post in thread 'Why is hanging not more popular?'
 
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Ive seen people who hang themselves start doing this hand curling inward motion (right after a few seconds of hanging themselves) which is apparently sign of severe brain damage then how can you survive after that even after 10 minutes?

Yes a sign of severe brain damage is decorticate and decerebrate posturing both have very high mortality rates. It is a state of unconsciousness or comatose. You're describing decorticate posturing.

Decorticate (flexed arms and curled wrists) - survival rates 37% roughly

Decerebrate (extended extremities) - survival rates 10% roughly

In the case you're describing, where the individual experienced transient paralysis but recovered, it is unlikely they had true decorticate or decerebrate as these postures are generally persistent and indicate structural brain damage. It is hard to say exactly how long but I would guess just less then 2 minutes of hanging if they lost consciousness within 10 seconds and were able to recover. Longer than 2 minutes is likely to cause more significant damage. Im no expert though so I could be wrong.
 
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Yes a sign of severe brain damage is decorticate and decerebrate posturing both have very high mortality rates. It is a state of unconsciousness or comatose. You're describing decorticate posturing.

Decorticate (flexed arms and curled wrists) - survival rates 37% roughly

Decerebrate (extended extremities) - survival rates 10% roughly

In the case you're describing, where the individual experienced transient paralysis but recovered, it is unlikely they had true decorticate or decerebrate as these postures are generally persistent and indicate structural brain damage. It is hard to say exactly how long but I would guess just less then 2 minutes of hanging if they lost consciousness within 10 seconds and were able to recover. Longer than 2 minutes is likely to cause more significant damage. Im no expert though so I could be wrong.

Ooooh that's really interesting, I didn't know that!! And before people ask, yes, there are definitely studies corroborating these findings. And notably, these findings pertain to coma patients, who remain persistently in decorticate/decerebrate posturing due to reduced capacity for motor function (as a result of severe brain injury).

The thing that I find really interesting, as someone who has watched a bunch of hanging videos, is that (to my untrained eye at least) decerebrate posturing often seems to occur transiently for several seconds at a time, relatively quickly after onset of unconsciousness. I'm an idiot, but I'd guess that it has something to do with the fact that in a state of hypoxia, the cortex reduces its inhibition of the vestibular nucleus, which causes activation of extensor motor neurons in the spinal cord and inhibition of flexor motor neurons? However, because the cortex stops regulating all sorts of motor neurons in all sorts of places somewhat randomly during initial onset of hypoxia, random motor neuron activations override the vestibular nucleus, ensuring that - at least in the early stages of unconsciousness - decerebrate posturing doesn't persist for very long? And this would be consistent with the findings of the studies, where patients had serious enough damage to the forebrain (where the cortex and all sorts of motor neuron regulation takes place) to be comatose but enough structural integrity in the brainstem (where the vestibular nuclei are) to sustain life in a comatose state? Or maybe it's as @Emerita said, that it's not true decerebrate posturing if it doesn't persist.

I dunno - again, I'm just an idiot. But it's cool to learn new things about hanging, and to be able to speculate about stuff pertaining to hanging that isn't captured explicitly by existing medical literature (that I've found yet, anyway!)
 
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Ooooh that's really interesting, I didn't know that!! And before people ask, yes, there are definitely studies corroborating these findings. And notably, these findings pertain to coma patients, who remain persistently in decorticate/decerebrate posturing due to reduced capacity for motor function (as a result of severe brain injury).

The thing that I find really interesting, as someone who has watched a bunch of hanging videos, is that (to my untrained eye at least) decerebrate posturing often seems to occur transiently for several seconds at a time, relatively quickly after onset of unconsciousness. I'm an idiot, but I'd guess that it has something to do with the fact that in a state of hypoxia, the cortex reduces its inhibition of the vestibular nucleus, which causes activation of extensor motor neurons in the spinal cord and inhibition of flexor motor neurons? However, because the cortex stops regulating all sorts of motor neurons in all sorts of places somewhat randomly during initial onset of hypoxia, random motor neuron activations override the vestibular nucleus, ensuring that - at least in the early stages of unconsciousness - decerebrate posturing doesn't persist for very long? And this would be consistent with the findings of the studies, where patients had serious enough damage to the forebrain (where the cortex and all sorts of motor neuron regulation takes place) to be comatose but enough structural integrity in the brainstem (where the vestibular nuclei are) to sustain life in a comatose state? Or maybe it's as @Emerita said, that it's not true decerebrate posturing if it doesn't persist.

I dunno - again, I'm just an idiot. But it's cool to learn new things about hanging, and to be able to speculate about stuff pertaining to hanging that isn't captured explicitly by existing medical literature (that I've found yet, anyway!)
believe whats seen in hanging videos isn't true decerebrate posturing, but rather transient, brainstem-mediated motor activity that can resemble decerebrate posture. This can be caused by hypoxia, seizure-like activity, or spinal reflexes, and typically signs of severe but reversible cortical dysfunction.

Someone who survives initial hanging but is left comatose maybe more likely to exhibit true decerebrate posturing. Someone who dies while hanging is unlikely to show persistent decerebrate posturing, because the process ends before that level of structural injury develops or can be observed.

My previous message didn't clearly make this distinction: that decerebrate-like posturing during hanging is usually transient and non-diagnostic, whereas true decerebrate posturing is associated with deep, often irreversible brain injury in comatose patients. Also Im probably the idiot here so
 
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believe whats seen in hanging videos isn't true decerebrate posturing, but rather transient, brainstem-mediated motor activity that can resemble decerebrate posture. This can be caused by hypoxia, seizure-like activity, or spinal reflexes, and typically signs of severe but reversible cortical dysfunction.

Someone who survives initial hanging but is left comatose maybe more likely to exhibit true decerebrate posturing. Someone who dies while hanging is unlikely to show persistent decerebrate posturing, because the process ends before that level of structural injury develops or can be observed.

My previous message didn't clearly make this distinction: that decerebrate-like posturing during hanging is usually transient and non-diagnostic, whereas true decerebrate posturing is associated with deep, often irreversible brain injury in comatose patients. Also Im probably the idiot here so
Interesting
 
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For how long have you been hanged ?
I was lowered as soon as I passed out, so I was never hanged longer than 30 seconds. It causes no brain damage to me thought brain damage is like being dead, everybody recognices it exept the person concerned.

To know exactly what happens when a person dies by hanging, one has to record the braiwaves and the heartbeat of a statistical sufficient number of hangings. I doubt that anybody has ever done this except maybe Dr. Josef Mengele. But there must be a lot of clinical date around heart attacks, cardiac arrest, brain death and organ harvest. The only chance to reconstruct, what happens when a person dies by hanging is to extrapolate from these clinical data to the process of dying by hanging. This is permissible, because it makes no difference to the brain whether the blood flow though the neck is blocked or the heart beat has stopped.

Although it is understandable that one wants to know as much as possible about the choosen method, after all it is the last and probably most important thing we will experience in our life but in the end there are only two data of interest for me: How long do I need to pass out and how long do I need to become brain dead. I don´t even have to know the second data exactly as long as I am able to be long enaugh undistiurbed. Survival is not an option.
 
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Hanging in There. Living beyond Hanging: A Retrospective Review of the Prognostic Factors

Near hanging refers to patients who survive a hanging injury long enough to reach the hospital.

Unlike judicial hanging, suicidal hanging is rarely associated with cervical fractures, which are as low as 5% of all cases. Furthermore, death is often attributed to cerebral ischemia resulting from disruption of cerebral blood flow related to the noose around the neck. Cardiac arrest as a result of autonomic hyperactivity from stimulation of vasoactive centers in the great vessels; protrusion of the tongue and epiglottis causing airway compromise; jugular venous occlusion, carotid artery occlusion by neck closure, and vertebral artery occlusion by spinal injuries all contribute in a cumulative way to acute cerebral hypoxia.

Autopsy studies have documented injuries resulting from hanging. Common injuries include thyroid cartilage/hyoid fractures, trachea laryngeal fractures, vertebral injuries, cervical vascular injuries, and anoxic brain injuries.

In near-hanging patients who survived the hanging and were transported to the hospital alive, injuries often include pulmonary edema and bronchopneumonia, laryngeal injuries, hypoxic encephalopathy, pneumonia, cervical vascular injuries, vertebral fractures, adult respiratory distress syndrome, and more.

The neurological deficits of near-hanging injuries are profound and include cervical spine injury and diffuse atonal injury.
Diffuse atonal atrophy from the sudden acceleration and deceleration common with hanging attempts can lead to loss of consciousness and death. Near hanging can often result in the rupture of the interspinous ligaments.

Other serious negative health outcomes include carotid artery dissection, stroke, seizures, cortical edema, and intracerebral hemorrhages. The strangulation causes an interruption of cerebral blood flow coupled with hypoxia from respiratory arrest, leading to loss of consciousness. Near hanging results in hypoxic/ischemic injuries to neurons due to oxygen and glucose deprivation. Neuronal death is followed by deficits in memory formation/cognition and executive function.
Additionally, mechanical trauma to the cervical blood vessels and the airway can cause delayed neurological sequelae. Arterial dissections may occur, resulting in stroke. Trauma to the airway can cause delayed airway obstruction from tissue swelling, compounding the initial hypoxic insult.

Full text: https://www.pajtcces.com/abstractArticleContentBrowse/PAJT/22471/JPJ/fullText#B2
 
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Very sorry to hear of this situation. At risk of overstating the obvious: never use a ceiling fan, they just aren't built for the weight.
 
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The results of this study are a little disturbing to me. It is state of the art concerning heart attacs, that 10 minutes after a cardiac arrest brain death is inevitable. For the brain it makes no difference whether the heart does not beat anymore or the blood flow through the brain is blocked completly. So I was sure that I will be brain dead after 10 minutes if I hanged myself correct. This study unveils that people who hanged up to 10 minutes survived even when their heartbeat has stopped temporary. This means that one should hang at least half an hour and that there is no safety margin in this time.
This study, published in PLOS ONE, is often cited to support the idea that survival is possible even after prolonged hanging—10 or 15 minutes, in some cases. However, upon close reading, what clearly emerges is not the demonstration of an extended threshold for cerebral survival, but rather the exact opposite: the inability to determine with certainty how long the actual suspension lasted in the reported cases. The study itself explicitly admits this: "The hanging time may be inaccurate because it is based on witness statements." In other words, the duration of suspension is based on subjective reports, not on measurable, verifiable, or objective data. No stopwatch, no recording, no EMS log confirms those "ten minutes" as real, continuous, and involving complete arterial occlusion. To make matters worse, the study never clarifies whether the hangings were complete or partial, whether the feet were touching the ground, whether the noose compressed the neck symmetrically, or whether the vertebral arteries were effectively occluded. It lacks essential clinical and forensic details necessary to define these events as examples of total cerebral anoxia. And yet, the study proceeds to build statistical correlations using those reported times as if they were reliable. That is a clear methodological contradiction. If the duration is uncertain—and it is—then any correlation involving it becomes scientifically meaningless. You cannot link duration to outcome if you don't know the real duration. Clinically, it is well known and extensively documented that after 4 to 6 minutes of complete interruption of cerebral blood flow, neuronal damage becomes irreversible. This is not controversial; it is basic physiology. All emergency medicine and forensic neurology is based on this threshold. If a subject survives with preserved brain function, it is almost certain that there was no true no-flow cerebral state lasting more than 4–6 minutes. Consequently, what this study inadvertently shows is that the patients it observed were not truly suspended for 10 or 15 full minutes in an effective, complete manner. They were found, rescued, resuscitated—and the stated duration is the product of emotional approximations or conjecture. It cannot be used to define objective thresholds for the lethality of hanging. In conclusion, this study has value only in what it directly measures (NSE, CPC), but it cannot be cited as evidence that "one can survive 15 minutes of hanging," because that duration was never objectively documented.
 
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at the risk of sounding insensitive (i am glad that, from what i've gathered in your post, your friend is no longer paralyzed), hanging from a ceiling fan was probably a bigger factor in it than how long he was hanging for. they are notoriously unsturdy. i really think that, for a hanging/asphyxiation method, a tough enough tree or something very similar combined with a good strong rope would be a more reliable choice.
 
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This study, published in PLOS ONE, is often cited to support the idea that survival is possible even after prolonged hanging—10 or 15 minutes, in some cases. However, upon close reading, what clearly emerges is not the demonstration of an extended threshold for cerebral survival, but rather the exact opposite: the inability to determine with certainty how long the actual suspension lasted in the reported cases. The study itself explicitly admits this: "The hanging time may be inaccurate because it is based on witness statements." In other words, the duration of suspension is based on subjective reports, not on measurable, verifiable, or objective data. No stopwatch, no recording, no EMS log confirms those "ten minutes" as real, continuous, and involving complete arterial occlusion. To make matters worse, the study never clarifies whether the hangings were complete or partial, whether the feet were touching the ground, whether the noose compressed the neck symmetrically, or whether the vertebral arteries were effectively occluded. It lacks essential clinical and forensic details necessary to define these events as examples of total cerebral anoxia. And yet, the study proceeds to build statistical correlations using those reported times as if they were reliable. That is a clear methodological contradiction. If the duration is uncertain—and it is—then any correlation involving it becomes scientifically meaningless. You cannot link duration to outcome if you don't know the real duration. Clinically, it is well known and extensively documented that after 4 to 6 minutes of complete interruption of cerebral blood flow, neuronal damage becomes irreversible. This is not controversial; it is basic physiology. All emergency medicine and forensic neurology is based on this threshold. If a subject survives with preserved brain function, it is almost certain that there was no true no-flow cerebral state lasting more than 4–6 minutes. Consequently, what this study inadvertently shows is that the patients it observed were not truly suspended for 10 or 15 full minutes in an effective, complete manner. They were found, rescued, resuscitated—and the stated duration is the product of emotional approximations or conjecture. It cannot be used to define objective thresholds for the lethality of hanging. In conclusion, this study has value only in what it directly measures (NSE, CPC), but it cannot be cited as evidence that "one can survive 15 minutes of hanging," because that duration was never objectively documented.
First, I want to clarify that I'm not attacking the hanging method. It's the one I've chosen for myself, too. And I know it's lethal IF done right. And things can go wrong (like the case OP mentioned).

It's always good to read and stay informed, not become fanatic. It's not the "hang yourself" and "die" fantasy, that's that simple.

The article never mentions that people had their arteries/trachea 100% blocked. Otherwise they would have died without a doubt. Cellular cerebral injury can begin within minutes, and permanent brain injury will follow if prompt intervention does not occur (as the research case)

"Neuron-specific enolase (NSE) is frequently used to predict neurological outcomes in patients with hypoxic brain injury. Hanging can cause hypoxic brain damage, and survivors can suffer from neurological deficits that may impair daily activities. Here, we investigated the utility of the initial serum NSE level as a predictor of neurological outcomes in near-hanging patients with decreased consciousness."

"Anoxia" refers to the complete lack of oxygen delivery to an organ.

The term "hypoxia" applies when an organ experiences insufficient oxygen delivery to meet the tissue's metabolic needs.

Cardiac arrest is the most common cause of hypoxic brain injury. Other causes include traumatic vascular injuries, like strangulation/hanging suicide.

If you go in and read the article, you'll see tables showing how many people used partial and full suspension. Time will never be accurate unless those people filmed themselves or someone was there watching them hang themselves.
 
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I was lowered as soon as I passed out, so I was never hanged longer than 30 seconds. It causes no brain damage to me thought brain damage is like being dead, everybody recognices it exept the person concerned.

To know exactly what happens when a person dies by hanging, one has to record the braiwaves and the heartbeat of a statistical sufficient number of hangings. I doubt that anybody has ever done this except maybe Dr. Josef Mengele. But there must be a lot of clinical date around heart attacks, cardiac arrest, brain death and organ harvest. The only chance to reconstruct, what happens when a person dies by hanging is to extrapolate from these clinical data to the process of dying by hanging. This is permissible, because it makes no difference to the brain whether the blood flow though the neck is blocked or the heart beat has stopped.

Although it is understandable that one wants to know as much as possible about the choosen method, after all it is the last and probably most important thing we will experience in our life but in the end there are only two data of interest for me: How long do I need to pass out and how long do I need to become brain dead. I don´t even have to know the second data exactly as long as I am able to be long enaugh undistiurbed. Survival is not an option.

I was lowered as soon as I passed out, so I was never hanged longer than 30 seconds. It causes no brain damage to me thought brain damage is like being dead, everybody recognices it exept the person concerned.

To know exactly what happens when a person dies by hanging, one has to record the braiwaves and the heartbeat of a statistical sufficient number of hangings. I doubt that anybody has ever done this except maybe Dr. Josef Mengele. But there must be a lot of clinical date around heart attacks, cardiac arrest, brain death and organ harvest. The only chance to reconstruct, what happens when a person dies by hanging is to extrapolate from these clinical data to the process of dying by hanging. This is permissible, because it makes no difference to the brain whether the blood flow though the neck is blocked or the heart beat has stopped.

Although it is understandable that one wants to know as much as possible about the choosen method, after all it is the last and probably most important thing we will experience in our life but in the end there are only two data of interest for me: How long do I need to pass out and how long do I need to become brain dead. I don´t even have to know the second data exactly as long as I am able to be long enaugh undistiurbed. Survival is not an option.
How does hanging feels like the moment you let go of the chair? Doesn't it feel weird to have all the weight of your body on your neck?
 
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How does hanging feels like the moment you let go of the chair? Doesn't it feel weird to have all the weight of your body on your neck?
The first time the force feels surprisingly high, but it is bearable and you get used to it. You can reduce the pressure on the neck if the rope is not thinner than necessary. When you know what awaits you, it is more easy to step off the stool, but in my case it does not mitigate the survival instinct.
 
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The first time the force feels surprisingly high, but it is bearable and you get used to it. You can reduce the pressure on the neck if the rope is not thinner than necessary. When you know what awaits you, it is more easy to step off the stool, but in my case it does not mitigate the survival instinct.
at what part do you feel the survival instinct? Since you pass out within seconds. Is it before you let go of the stool or during the hanging?
 
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at what part do you feel the survival instinct? Since you pass out within seconds. Is it before you let go of the stool or during the hanging?
I was hanged by a partner and was sure that she will let me down as soon as I pass out, therefore I felt no survival instinct. I felt my survival instinct in a different situation, when I met a suicide partner, we planned to die together but I was not even able to climp up the stool.

How did your friend from India deal with his survival instinct?
 
happysunnydayy

happysunnydayy

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at the risk of sounding insensitive (i am glad that, from what i've gathered in your post, your friend is no longer paralyzed), hanging from a ceiling fan was probably a bigger factor in it than how long he was hanging for. they are notoriously unsturdy. i really think that, for a hanging/asphyxiation method, a tough enough tree or something very similar combined with a good strong rope would be a more reliable choice.
Most suicides in India happen from the ceiling fan. Not sure why his fan broke. But yeah never use a fan
I was hanged by a partner and was sure that she will let me down as soon as I pass out, therefore I felt no survival instinct. I felt my survival instinct in a different situation, when I met a suicide partner, we planned to die together but I was not even able to climp up the stool.

How did your friend from India deal with his survival instinct?
He was really hopeless because of all the abuse from his family, lack of proper education and poverty issues. So he was really depressed. He was also very young like 14. Most of us from third world countries don't have good lives :( anyone would die living in a slum
 

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