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Gerry Temple

Gerry Temple

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May 8, 2023
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I was 15 years old. He was 17. He drove me to school that morning. He seemed a bit off, said he was sick, but he didn't appear to be showing any signs of illness. He was unusually quiet that morning, with a cold, emotionless demeanor.

I went throughout my day. We had a class scheduled together that morning, that he was absent for. I remember some sort of group project being assigned, and I texted him asking if he wanted to work together on it, which portion he would be interested in. No response, and I didn't call to follow through.

We would stay after school to play games with friends for about an hour after classes ended, and it was just me that day, with our mutual friends. A few minutes before I would have called my parents to ask about when they would arrive to pick me up, my dad called me. He had a frantic tone, mentioning the suicide note left on the counter. I was astonished, emotions stirring between some state of disbelief and recalling a premonition of this moment, as if I were suspended in time. I was alarmed and visibly distraught. A friend of mine noticed and asked what the issue was, and obviously I declined to mention anything.

I got a ride home from a different friend. His parents knew little English, and they did not pry, even though my mood was obviously overcome with fear and distress. I told them to drop me off at a nearby gas station, for me to walk the rest of the way home. I called several mutual friends of ours, asking if they had seen him. There were helicopters flying around searching, and I remember this friend, a neighbor, asking me on the phone "are those helicopters looking for him??" I ended up spending most of the evening at their place, where they served me a dinner I couldn't eat.

I returned home later. I remember speaking to an investigator, at that point still in complete shock and disbelief, assuring her and myself that he was not gone, that the search party would find him. I was smiling and laughing about our memories, mentioning some odd signs and behavior that is now difficult to recall. When I went to bed that night, he still was not found, and there still was a search crew looking for him. I remember my dad waking up in a fit near midnight, ready to burst out the door to find him, but myself and my mother convinced him otherwise, worrying for the worst, what kind of scar it would leave him to find him dead.

I had nightmares that night, some strange imagery of him coming back home, only to return to the back yard and cover himself with stacked logs as if it were a tombstone. The following morning, we woke up to a crew of officers who told us that they found him, and he was confirmed dead.

He took a pistol from the house, drove our car to the end of the street, left it running, and took his life in a shallow pond in the woods. It was a single bullet to the head, whereupon he fell beneath the pond.

That was more than 11 years ago now. I have grown older, moved away from home, and established myself. I was his only sibling. My parents are still alive, too, and they are now both retired.

Not a day goes by where he does not cross my mind. My life changed so drastically after we lost him. I began to take life very seriously, focusing incredibly hard on school, with hopes and dreams to apply myself fully, to make a meaningful future for myself. Such a focus on academics was the best coping mechanism. I lost 50 pounds that year, from a rather overweight child to someone who was fit, running every day and waking up early to work-out in my backyard. I applied myself, found a girlfriend my senior year, and applied to college to move across the country.

My parents got a legal settlement from a medication he was taking - Accutane. This medication has been linked to numerous suicides. This settlement was the only reason I could afford to go to the prestigious college I was admitted to. I've since graduated from that college, and now I have recently finished a graduate degree at an Ivy League university. I would have never conceived of accomplishing so much when he was still alive, as neither of our parents even went to college.

I miss him so much, and I wonder frequently what would be of his life and mine if he were still with us. He was incredibly intelligent. He had a good group of friends that he spent time with, though he wrote in the journals that he left behind - that he felt he had a mental illness where he could not connect with others, that the people who surrounded him were not his "friends," and he did not believe that he could actually make meaningful friendships.

I am not suicidal. I have been through periods of depression and severe stress - for myself, that mostly comes to shape as substance abuse, though thankfully I've never taken hard drugs, nothing worse than prescription amphetamines, kratom, alcohol, weed, molly, or psychedelics. I do have a hard time staying sober, though, even if it just takes nicotine or weed or vyvanse to get me through a normal day.

Yet I moved so far from our small town. I have a wonderful community of friends here in a big city thousands of miles away. There is so much life that he never got to experience, so many joys that he never witnessed, of traveling to breathtaking state parks, of seeing world famous musicians at festivals, of finding your own niche in a city with people who can actually understand who you are, of learning a new language and immersing yourself in a foreign culture. He could have done all of this and more, and I know he would have loved it, just as any other human does.

I wish that I could go back and tell him how much I loved him. How much I still miss him. How much I wish he had opened up to me, to our family, to our friends, to find the love and support that he had around him all along. To go to a psychologist, get off the fucking acne meds if that's really what killed him, to learn to see the light within him and discover the joy that we all have within us. He deserved so much more. Our family was not perfect, and our town was a depressing, isolated place. There was so much more that he never got to see, that he never could have seen in this life he ended so so early.

I discovered this website recently, alongside all of the negative press portraying it as some sort of 'cult' where people encourage each other to take their lives. I think I understand the community here a bit more thoroughly due to my firsthand experience. People can not talk about these things out in the open. I do not tell anyone but my closest friends about my brother, nor go into detail with anyone but a few select people that I deeply trust. This is a community that is born out of the crippling censorship surrounding the topic of suicide, and I think that if people felt more comfortable to express themselves openly without fear of being institutionalized or met with disbelief, so many thousands of lives could be saved.

But if this story resonates with you, and you are struggling with suicidal ideation, please - just tell one person that you love them. I don't expect you to put yourself into danger, and I know well that most people do not know how to respond appropriately. One of my closest friends now, I met him a few months after he had attempted suicide and was institutionalized himself. We have been incredibly close and supportive of each other for years now. You deserve love, and you deserve a life worth living. I hope that is something you keep close to heart.
 
Huntfish34

Huntfish34

Enlightened
Mar 13, 2020
1,623
Wow, Very sorry to hear all of that. This hit me extremely hard, moved me so much. I've been thinking about using a gun myself, but the thought of loved ones left behind are what's keeping me here. ( Also have a brother, 2 yrs older than me )

Thoughts and prayers to you and your family Always, Thank you for sharing this with us. Godspeed. ♥ -
 
leftdreaming

leftdreaming

I should’ve been a house cat
Apr 28, 2023
170
This was a good read. Thank you not only for your love but also for your understanding in what this website is. I can tell you are a good person and I am glad you are there for your friend.

A lot of us struggle from loneliness, and I'm sure your message is easier said than done for many people on this site, but it's nice to know that you are there for your friend if anything. I hope you find true happiness in your life and that it doesn't disappear the way it has for so many of us.

Now run far, far away from this site. I wouldn't want you to open up any mental wounds with the purpose of bringing hope to others.
 
Ambivalent1

Ambivalent1

🎵 Can this be the end? Is this the way I die?
Apr 17, 2023
2,610
I don't care how people will respond to my death. I won't exist anymore. Their reactions lie in my imagination, not my reality.
 
Rob1984

Rob1984

A day in the life
Jan 8, 2021
160
I don't care how people will respond to my death. I won't exist anymore. Their reactions lie in my imagination, not my reality.

Whatever you tell yourself in order to cope won't change the fact that their responses to your death will be real. You not caring about their pain is not a reflection of what you will or won't care about when you are dead; it's a reflection of who you are as a person while you are alive, today.
 
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SoftWorries

Specialist
Feb 22, 2023
332
I'm really grateful you shared your story. On here I've been able to find a place to share my history of being abused, the violence I've seen, how it's hurt my mental health and any number of other things.

No one judges me here. No one questions my pain. When they hear my stories they know the emotions I'm feeling. They know what it feels like for life to be a burden just to go through the day.

Talking to anyone else about this has had me involuntarily hospitalized.

The loneliness and isolation of being suicidal is overwhelming. Talking on here some people get better once they've been about to open up. For those who find suicide to be the best choice they go more peacefully and less lonely than they would have otherwise.

That's a dignity that is denied to suicidal people usually. Everyone deserves to die with dignity.
 
Ambivalent1

Ambivalent1

🎵 Can this be the end? Is this the way I die?
Apr 17, 2023
2,610
Whatever you tell yourself in order to cope won't change the fact that their responses to your death will be real. You not caring about their pain is not a reflection of what you will or won't care about when you are dead; it's a reflection of who you are as a person while you are alive, today.
Lol a guilt trip. Tiresome. I don't care if I'm perceived as good or bad. Just because what I said is outside of how you operate doesn't mean it's a cope.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

She wished that she never existed...
Sep 24, 2020
34,127
If you are on here to try and "save" people from making a perfectly logical decision in which they have every right to make, then I believe you are in the wrong place. Suicide is a human right that should be accepted rather than something to prevent and "save" people from, the right to die is certainly very important in this world. And anyway saying things like "just talk to someone" are empty, hollow platitudes as the fact is that many people in this world are trapped in situations of unbearable suffering that words could never ease while many other people have awareness of the fact that existence is nothing more than an unnecessary harm, I don't desire existence, I see it as being a tragic disturbance in what would otherwise be the most ideal state of non-existence.

This futile process of slowly dying could never be worth it for me, I only deserve the relief that only permanent nothingness can bring, I don't deserve to be punished by having the ability to exist in this chaotic and hellish world where there is unlimited potential to suffer.
At least your brother is free from all future suffering and I envy him, in fact suicide is a positive thing as it solves all problems in which there never was a need for in the first place, there are no disadvantages to not existing after all. You cannot "save" people from death as we are destined for nowhere but to die, it's our inevitable fate and all we are intended for. Forcing someone to stay here is only prolonging their meaningless existence, extending their suffering, it's not "saving" them but exposing them to risks and harm, there is no safety in such a repulsive world where we are only destined for nothing but to lose everything and decay.
But anyway rest in peace.
 
Nights

Nights

Student
Apr 27, 2023
164
This site isn't for people that thinks people doesn't have the right to suicide, i understand that your brother's suicide has left trauma and a lot of pain to you, that's understandable, in this site we think that everyone has the right to suicide or not, for example your brother was depressed, and was suffering a lot that he even killed himself, 99 percent of people in this site agrees that your brother has the right to die since he was suffering and that's considered as a enough reason, most people here doesn't want to try to cope with their depression, they just want a way to stop the pain so they're considering suicide, that's the purpose for why Sanctioned Suicide was made , this is a site run for suicidal people and it's also made by suicidal people, this site is about suicide from the perspective of suicidal people, if you think that nobody has the right to die then that's not the right place for you, you are considered as a threat to the safety of this forum, if you're here to try to make people rethink about suicide and you respect their right to die then that's okay as long as you don't try to spread toxic positivity
 
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Mirrory Me

Mirrory Me

Life is a mirror, but "whose" mirror?
Mar 23, 2023
535
Lol a guilt trip. Tiresome. I don't care if I'm perceived as good or bad. Just because what I said is outside of how you operate doesn't mean it's a cope.
Your life matters more than just your personal experience - it might be difficult for you to deal with it in this context. It would be unfortunet to see all the flowers in the field just to wither away, but that's just the way it is sometimes.
 
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Aliceinborderline

Aliceinborderline

Member
May 13, 2023
40
Its hard though sometimes so hard when people have limits and cant really help you and you are just so lost anxious and afraid for the future
 
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LaVieEnRose

Illuminated
Jul 23, 2022
3,402
I'm sorry for your loss. I feel that accusations towards you of coming here with pro-life intentions are misplaced and not borne out by what you have actually shared.
 
Rob1984

Rob1984

A day in the life
Jan 8, 2021
160
Lol a guilt trip. Tiresome. I don't care if I'm perceived as good or bad. Just because what I said is outside of how you operate doesn't mean it's a cope.

You said the way people respond to your death will be irrelevant b/c when you are dead, you won't care. You even said their reactions are in your imagination (which is disingenuous). By using basic reasoning and deduction skills, you can very well surmise what the reactions will be, and the suffering it will cause. It is not purely fictional the way you describe it. People's pain in life are not dictated by others awareness (or lack of). I have been abused, and so have others on this site, by people who are completely unaware of the damage they caused to me. Their lack of awareness does not diminish the pain and suffering I've endured in my life. So again, the logic you are openly expressing really sounds like your way of coping with the fact that you know you will hurt people with your death. Whether you care or not, or are aware or not, does not change the reality of the pain you cause to others. I'm not saying you are a good or bad person, and I am not "guilt tripping" you. I am simply pointing out a fact about reality that you are consciously dismissing.
 
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unnormal9

unnormal9

SOLDIER T.
Apr 12, 2023
1,139
If you are on here to try and "save" people from making a perfectly logical decision in which they have every right to make, then I believe you are in the wrong place. Suicide is a human right that should be accepted rather than something to prevent and "save" people from, the right to die is certainly very important in this world. And anyway saying things like "just talk to someone" are empty, hollow platitudes as the fact is that many people in this world are trapped in situations of unbearable suffering that words could never ease while many other people have awareness of the fact that existence is nothing more than an unnecessary harm, I don't desire existence, I see it as being a tragic disturbance in what would otherwise be the most ideal state of non-existence.
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Whatever you tell yourself in order to cope won't change the fact that their responses to your death will be real. You not caring about their pain is not a reflection of what you will or won't care about when you are dead; it's a reflection of who you are as a person while you are alive, today.

In the meantime, clean your mirror.
Your life matters more than just your personal experience - it might be difficult for you to deal with it in this context. It would be unfortunet to see all the flowers in the field just to wither away, but that's just the way it is sometimes.
So why am I in so much pain? Why was I shunned for being gay by my own family? Who thinks a mental ill person like me matters? Especially a schizo.
, and you are struggling with suicidal ideation, please - just tell one person that you love them

Who? Suddenly you know someone who cares about me?
 
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LittleJem

Visionary
Jul 3, 2019
2,423
I'm sorry for your loss.I have read about the possible impact of that medication. It is tragic that happened and that acne medication can have such a devastating effect. It's a fictional story I read it in, Nine Perfect Strangers, but there is a young man in that novel who has committed suicide due to the side effects of acne medication. I hope parents and children/teenagers are made fully aware of the side effects and to speak up/speak about them and watch for them and that young people (and everyone) are encouraged to tell someone and get help if they are feeling like this, whether from a medication or for other reasons.

Saying that, that is a very different situation to those of us on this forum with chronic mental and/or physical illness or other situational issues or trauma. Many of us are enduring chronic and long-term suffering.

Personally, I have told everyone in my life about how I feel. I have been suffering for years and people don't want to hear it really. It has led to some family estrangement and losing friends. It frustrates them that it doesn't get better and it also depresses them, but that unfortunately is the reality of chronic mental illness. I try and suffer alone as much as possible. I hate being a mute raincloud around people, I don't want others to have to witness my suffering.

I'm sure your brother would be proud of everything you have achieved and send you best wishes
 
Ambivalent1

Ambivalent1

🎵 Can this be the end? Is this the way I die?
Apr 17, 2023
2,610
Your life matters more than just your personal experience - it might be difficult for you to deal with it in this context. It would be unfortunet to see all the flowers in the field just to wither away, but that's just the way it is sometimes.
What do you mean?
 
Twiceler

Twiceler

Pro-suicide. Blackpill.
Dec 16, 2021
71
Another false hope attack there. Shields up!
 
Gerry Temple

Gerry Temple

New Member
May 8, 2023
2
If you are on here to try and "save" people from making a perfectly logical decision in which they have every right to make, then I believe you are in the wrong place.
This site isn't for people that thinks people doesn't have the right to suicide, i understand that your brother's suicide has left trauma and a lot of pain to you, that's understandable, in this site we think that everyone has the right to suicide or not, for example your brother was depressed, and was suffering a lot that he even killed himself, 99 percent of people in this site agrees that your brother has the right to die since he was suffering and that's considered as a enough reason, most people here doesn't want to try to cope with their depression, they just want a way to stop the pain so they're considering suicide, that's the purpose for why Sanctioned Suicide was made , this is a site run for suicidal people and it's also made by suicidal people, this site is about suicide from the perspective of suicidal people
I see no reason someone who has experienced suicide firsthand should be met with an attempt to exclude or gatekeep them from a conversation here. There is a garish misrepresentation of this website that proliferates elsewhere, that it is a community only dedicated to reaffirming peoples' suicidal ideation and sharing methods to enact suicide. That does happen here, yet simultaneously there are hundreds of others that are simply looking for an outlet, coping with their emotions, and wondering whether ending their life will be the right decision. There is no reason to assume every person visiting this website has solidified some idea about following through with a suicide, and acting as if that is the case would extend beyond simply a "right to die," much more in line with what the censorship efforts wish to portray this place as.
Forcing someone to stay here is only prolonging their meaningless existence, extending their suffering, it's not "saving" them but exposing them to risks and harm, there is no safety in such a repulsive world where we are only destined for nothing but to lose everything and decay.
But anyway rest in peace.
A teenage suicide will never be "prolonging" suffering. My brother never had a chance to live as an adult. There are stories here of severe abuse, of destitution, of unfathomable isolation and insurmountable obstacles; none of that was the case for him. There is a nuance you are lacking.
 
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