Venting Money isn´t Everything

[TheGoodGuy]

WRONG! Money IS everything, the fact that we can´t even survive without money just tells us that, we don´t have the knowledge and training passes down by degenerations to live in nature as humans did for thousands of years and it wouldn´t be possible since humans have destroyed all natural forest by building cities, roads, mining, deforstation, factories etc. you even need a hunters license and fishing license "to be allowed" to obtain food naturally but go ahead and cope by saying money isn´t everything when we can´t even survive without it.

And this I just mentioned is JUST to survive money also opens up a world of copes if I had more money I could get a car again which is a great cope being able to go where I want whenever I want opens up a whole new world instead of rotting in my apartment. If I had more money I could buy a new PC so I could try out newer games to see if that would be a new good cope, I could get a new more comfortable bed I could get the food I need so I could gain weight since I am allergic to almost everything.

Seriously money is essential as an adult to live I like something the character Eric Cartman says in an episode in South Park "the rule of life is anything that is fun to do cost at least 5 bucks) and as an adult that is so true you need money to do anything to be able to have fun.

 

[LifeOver]

Society is quite messed up. We definitely have the resources to allow everyone to live a fun life, but instead these resources are being hogged by these upper class people. You can definitely see a society that promotes equality when a kid who got his rich parents' inheritance gets to access all the amazing things the world has to offer while a man has to beg on the streets and can only afford spoiled food. Screw this money thing and distribute the wealth evenly, and many people could live a life that is not hell on earth.

 

[JoeFailure]

Yup. Money is the reason for why I might have to CTB. The people that say money isn't everything are usually the people that have it.

 

[CapitanBeto]

It is not the man with too little property, but the one who wants more, who is a pauper.

If you want to make Pythocles rich you should not add to his money but subtract from his desire.

This is how Diogenes lived:

Edit: Look at the contrast in this picture.

 

[JoeFailure]

The biggest problem was I just didn't get it. I never understood the value of money until I was 34. That's how dumb I was.

3 years ago I left a job where I would've made close to 60k, not a lot I know but for me the highest paying job I would have ever had have. I left it because I was searching for something more meaningful. So I took a job as a special ed assistant making $13 an hour thinking that was ok because it felt good to work with kids with autism and because I was helping the world...and it did...but now it feels like one big trick. It ruined my finances and I was just so oblivious. I knew nothing about saving money as crazy as that sounds, I had heard of people living paycheck to paycheck so I thought it was ok, not realizing so many of those people have houses, kids, secure careers, retirement accounts, etc.

I really did love those kids and in some ways I don't regret it. At least I did something worthwhile if I CTB. But at the same time, had I kept my other job and had my grown up awakening at the same time, no I wouldn't have been where many are at my age but this would've likely have been salvageable.

What a cruel joke. The best thing I ever did in life was likely my own suicide.

 

[CapitanBeto]

The biggest problem was I just didn't get it. I never understood the value of money until I was 34. That's how dumb I was.

3 years ago I left a job where I would've made close to 60k, not a lot I know but for me the highest paying job I would have ever had have. I left it because I was searching for something more meaningful. So I took a job as a special ed assistant making $13 an hour thinking that was ok because it felt good to work with kids with autism and because I was helping the world...and it did...but now it feels like one big trick. It ruined my finances and I was just so oblivious. I knew nothing about saving money as crazy as that sounds, I had heard of people living paycheck to paycheck so I thought it was ok, not realizing so many of those people have houses, kids, secure careers, retirement accounts, etc.

I really did love those kids and in some ways I don't regret it. At least I did something worthwhile if I CTB. But at the same time, had I kept my other job and had my grown up awakening at the same time, no I wouldn't have been where many are at my age but this would've likely have been salvageable.

What a cruel joke. The best thing I ever did in life was likely my own suicide.

$13 an hour is approximately $2000 a month for a 9 to 5 job. Where I reside, that is the income of a middle class family. Isn't that the case for you?

I understand standards of living vary according to the economic region, and I think generally the cost of living in first world countries might be higher.

 

[JoeFailure]

$13 an hour is approximately $2000 a month for a 9 to 5 job. Where I reside, that is the income of a middle class family. Isn't that the case for you?

I understand standards of living vary according to the economic region, and I think generally the cost of living in first world countries might be higher.

In the US, you literally can't even live off $13 an hour after taxes. I'm making 47k right now and I'm barely able to save anything.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

We definitely have the resources to allow everyone to live a fun life, but instead these resources are being hogged by these upper class people. You can definitely see a society that promotes equality when a kid who got his rich parents' inheritance gets to access all the amazing things the world has to offer while a man has to beg on the streets and can only afford spoiled food. Screw this money thing and distribute the wealth evenly, and many people could live a life that is not hell on earth.

This is exactly how it is a select few own the majority of the world´s money, I don´t care how "hard they worked" an hour of someones life is an hour of life then it doesn´t matter if they are working at Mc Donalds, a doctor or Jeff Bezos they all trade their time for money why is someone elses time more valuable than others? Because that is what work is we sell hours of our life for a salary.

Yup. Money is the reason for why I might have to CTB. The people that say money isn't everything are usually the people that have it.

I suffer from both physical, mental and financial problem and although my worst problem is my physical ones I will put financial problems right up their with physical and mental problems it MONEY IS THAT IMPORTANT!

 

[pole]

WRONG! Money IS everything, the fact that we can´t even survive without money just tells us that, we don´t have the knowledge and training passes down by degenerations to live in nature as humans did for thousands of years and it wouldn´t be possible since humans have destroyed all natural forest by building cities, roads, mining, deforstation, factories etc. you even need a hunters license and fishing license "to be allowed" to obtain food naturally but go ahead and cope by saying money isn´t everything when we can´t even survive without it.

And this I just mentioned is JUST to survive money also opens up a world of copes if I had more money I could get a car again which is a great cope being able to go where I want whenever I want opens up a whole new world instead of rotting in my apartment. If I had more money I could buy a new PC so I could try out newer games to see if that would be a new good cope, I could get a new more comfortable bed I could get the food I need so I could gain weight since I am allergic to almost everything.

Seriously money is essential as an adult to live I like something the character Eric Cartman says in an episode in South Park "the rule of life is anything that is fun to do cost at least 5 bucks) and as an adult that is so true you need money to do anything to be able to have fun.

its been extremely hard on me cause of school, heck after uni if i have good grades i wanna try and get into law school, where and how the hell would i get the money for that and do i wanna be in debt for long after while still struggling with my mental state.

i just things like education were somehow free, the idea of money stopping those WHO REALLY WANNA go to school, chase an education and do well is awful. it destroys them.

 

[saomao]

Money cant cure my brain damage, i would prefer to be homeless on a wheeling chair instead of a brain damaged with money

 

[peacetoall]

In the US, you literally can't even live off $13 an hour after taxes. I'm making 47k right now and I'm barely able to save anything.

47k a year supporting a family would be difficult but still doable, but for a single person that is more than enough. A few years back I had a job that paid 40k a year and I was able to save 17.5 k a year. My humble advice would be to read up on budgeting your money. You need to figure out where your income is going and cut expenses that you don't need.

 

[TAW122]

Yes, I mostly agree with you. I suppose one part of the argument that "money isn't everything" stems from how there are certain problems that can't be solved or bought with money. A few examples where money would be useless would be, for instance, if you want buy a product that doesn't exist then it would not happen, or let's say you want to pay someone for a service that they wouldn't want to provide, then you'd have to go elsewhere to get it. So just because one has money doesn't mean that it will solve everything, but on the other hand, having money does make life easier, yes, I agree with you on that part. There are more examples but I'm not go and list every single one because that would too long of a list.

 

[Crystal Labeija]

Money pays rent. Money pays for groceries. Money pays the electricity bill. Money pays the water bill. Money pays for medicine when sick. Money pays for therapists when mentally sick. Money pays for pleasure when bored. Money pays for companionship when lonely. Money is everything. Everything is money.

Whoever said money is not everything is a fucking liar. Whoever said that money can't buy happiness is a fucking liar.

 

[JoeFailure]

Money pays rent. Money pays for groceries. Money pays the electricity bill. Money pays the water bill. Money pays for medicine when sick. Money pays for therapists when mentally sick. Money pays for pleasure when bored. Money pays for companionship when lonely. Money is everything. Everything is money.

Whoever said money is not everything is a fucking liar. Whoever said that money can't buy happiness is a fucking liar.

Yup. It can't necessarily fix mental and physical illness, although it can even help that. But it can basically fix anything outside of that.

 

[GeorgeJL]

WRONG! Money IS everything, the fact that we can´t even survive without money just tells us that, we don´t have the knowledge and training passes down by degenerations to live in nature as humans did for thousands of years and it wouldn´t be possible since humans have destroyed all natural forest by building cities, roads, mining, deforstation, factories etc. you even need a hunters license and fishing license "to be allowed" to obtain food naturally but go ahead and cope by saying money isn´t everything when we can´t even survive without it.

And this I just mentioned is JUST to survive money also opens up a world of copes if I had more money I could get a car again which is a great cope being able to go where I want whenever I want opens up a whole new world instead of rotting in my apartment. If I had more money I could buy a new PC so I could try out newer games to see if that would be a new good cope, I could get a new more comfortable bed I could get the food I need so I could gain weight since I am allergic to almost everything.

Seriously money is essential as an adult to live I like something the character Eric Cartman says in an episode in South Park "the rule of life is anything that is fun to do cost at least 5 bucks) and as an adult that is so true you need money to do anything to be able to have fun.

Which is partially why I am voting for Andrew Yang. He's proposing a 1000 dollars a month UBI for every US citizen. I think his stance on immigration is ridiculous thought regardless. He wants to give universal free healthcare to all illegal immigrants just like all the other Democratic candidates. I'm almost ashamed to admit that I use to be a democrat. But I'll give Yang a shot.

 

[alizee]

I think personal "health & beauty" are the most important aspects in one's life. Wealth typically shadows those those two qualities and thus comes with it.

Society would be better in my opinion if money was less needed to survive. I believe there should be baseline needs granted to every citizen; such as housing, food, healthcare, and education. The costs can be from taxes and to withstand an enjoyable quality of life for everyone. Then money can be used for going beyond purchasing the basic needs if one desires. So a person can for certain have a good quality of life and then if they desire complete for more by whatever job they perform.

Basically that's the socialist ideology for me and the current capitalist society in semi-modern countries are evil. Being a part of a capitalist society is basically agreeing to how it's okay if someone fails by either of the (health, education, shelter, and food) needs and thus cannot survive because they're all detrimental.

I'm hoping for Bernie Sanders to win in the USA and even though I'm not in the USA. I really have no idea what will happen because it seems USA likes watching their own people suffer.

 

[Dreamcolleger]

When you're mentally or physically fucked up, even a relatively good amount of money (within the confines of normal people incomes) can't really help you.

 

[DeepSleep]

Guys, instead of rephrasing the already obvious notion (that money is everything), would you rather list 5-6 activities that you have actually tried (to raise money)?
I'm not talking about some low-level crappy job like a night shift security guard at some fucking gas station.
What have you tried?
Because when I ask myself this question, the answer is - nothing. I dream about making money, but I'm not doing anything. Whom to blame? Myself, nobody else.

 

[Jon86]

Health is everything.

 

[262653]

we don´t have the knowledge and training passes down by degenerations to live in nature as humans did for thousands of years and it wouldn´t be possible since humans have destroyed all natural forest by building cities, roads, mining, deforstation, factories etc. you even need a hunters license and fishing license "to be allowed" to obtain food naturally but go ahead and cope by saying money isn´t everything when we can´t even survive without it.

Sound quite natural for me, hunt for money in city jungles to survive. I wish my forebears could train me to live in modern conditions, because I don't have any incentive to do it myself.

 

[blanketyblk]

I'm quite well off due to being last one to inherent all the assets from my family (3 houses and 1 flat and several cars) and i would trade all of it. for one more day with my parents, or even 1 hour more with my partner. without hesitating. to me, money. yes does make things easier. but does not remove all the issues that come with life.

 

[JoeFailure]

I'm quite well off due to being last one to inherent all the assets from my family (3 houses and 1 flat and several cars) and i would trade all of it. for one more day with my parents, or even 1 hour more with my partner. without hesitating. to me, money. yes does make things easier. but does not remove all the issues that come with life.

It definitely doesn't remove all the issues, but yeah it makes things a TON easier. For many, it is life and death.

Obviously it can't bring people back from the dead or remove all mental or physical health issues. But it can afford the opportunity to still live a comfortable life and possibly live on through them, maybe do things in dedication to them.

I'm screwed up sexually because of something that happened to me when I was young, so it's likely if I make it through this life, it'll be without ever having a partner. I won't have even experienced that feeling of love that you had with your partner, ever. I've more or less accepted that. But if I had money, I would go back to school and either end up helping people with special needs or other victims of sexual abuse. Yeah, it's not a great life. It's not filled with a wedding I'll always remember or being in some boat with someone special in Paris with a dude playing the accordian.

But that's what money can give you. Even if life hands you a shit sandwich, money can afford the opportunity to find a passion and at least give life a purpose and some moments of happiness along the way. I would be relatively happy if I just got my hobbies and helped people battle through some of the things I had to.

I'm not going to presume any kind of mental illness you might have or how it feels to be in your head because I don't know that...but if you're well off, you could hop on a plane and visit the starving kids in Africa and bring them food or find a way to help a girl who spend her childhood being human trafficked or something really mutually rewarding like that. The possibilities in life with money are endless.

I hate that money means that much, but it just does, it's a cruel fact of life. It's not everything, but it almost is.

 

[Midnight]

For the majority of people money is having means to buy your "happiness", to people with severe ilnesses that cannot be cured or overcome it means alot less if anything at all.

To most people money is everything but that's not the case for everyone. I'm not going to lie vast amounts of money would make me ride this life out no doubt.

 

[JoeFailure]

For the majority of people money is having means to buy your "happiness", to people with severe ilnesses that cannot be cured or overcome it means alot less if anything at all.

To most people money is everything but that's not the case for everyone. I'm not going to lie vast amounts of money would make me ride this life out no doubt.

Absolutely, and I totally get that for people with severe or incurable illnesses. That's another shitty, cruel, reality of life.

But honestly outside of that, life has a ton to offer if you have money. Even if it's not necessarily a pure kind of happiness if you have other things you're dealing with, you can find passions and purposes that make it worth living and have happiness along the way.

Everyone is different and their circumstances are different, but yeah if I had money, I'd be up at 5am every single day and pumped about all the things at my disposal that I could do.

 

[ish]

Acquiring and accumulating money in today's world is nothing but a manifestation of the Survival Instinct, it can be limited, but
you can't give it up.

This is how Diogenes lived:

Edit: Look at the contrast in this picture.

I would add a link from Wikipedia to the illustrations
Diogenes syndrome -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes_syndrome

 

[Tabbyql]

I may come across as dumb here, but il take the risk. I literally have never understood why everything revolves around money, it makes me sad that's all that seems to be important and the main thing that gets you anywhere and anything. I seriously just don't get it, why can't we all just share and be happy and equal. I wish I lived in a world like that. There's more I would usually say in this subject but I'm in bed and sleepy.

 

[ish]

I may come across as dumb here, but il take the risk. I literally have never understood why everything revolves around money, it makes me sad that's all that seems to be important and the main thing that gets you anywhere and anything. I seriously just don't get it, why can't we all just share and be happy and equal. I wish I lived in a world like that. There's more I would usually say in this subject but I'm in bed and sleepy.

When people didn't know money yet, they did
territory, animals, objects, slaves etc.
Money is a contractual thing for which you can almost
buy everything.
The system where everybody was sharing evenly existed
on the first kibbutz in Israel, the manager had it
same as workers, all in all this enterprise
small scale - everyone controlled everyone.
The communist countries were on a larger scale,
but this solution did not stand the test of time - human
nature is what it is. After the fall of communism as from underground
oligarchs and a whole bunch of poor people appeared.

 

[transgenderfailure]

yes, i agree, if i could afford the things that i need, surgeries, car license, clothes, pc etc then life would be at least bearable.

 

[Euthanza]

"The idea is to die before the money ran out"

- French Exit

 

[summers]

Drake says it best: "Niggas with no money act like money isn't everything"

For the majority of people money is having means to buy your "happiness", to people with severe ilnesses that cannot be cured or overcome it means alot less if anything at all.

To most people money is everything but that's not the case for everyone. I'm not going to lie vast amounts of money would make me ride this life out no doubt.

But if you had enough money and you were ill, you could afford a painless, easy out vs something like sn.