Mental Healthcare: what has it done for you?

[The Hunter]

I have a severe ocd and cognitive behavioral therapy, especially accept uncertainty really helped me a little. but I still consider psychiatry and psychology pseudosciences.

 

[TimeToDie]

I've always been very skeptical about anti-depressants (SSRIs)

Have you ever tried MAOIs? There is more than just SSRIs, hard as that is to believe when 99% of AD scripts today are SSRIs.

...antipsychotics on the other hand, seem to really calm people but they scare me like hell.

It was 2003 and I went to a doc complaining of disabling social phobia. His FIRST choice was Xyprexa at a sky high dosage (20 mg I think). I was 246# and I'd read about how Zyprexa is infamous for weight gain and I expressed concern about this risk. He dismissed my concerns and gave an obese patient -- who had high blood pressure due to obesity -- a drug which would would end up causing 25# of weight gain in the next 6 weeks. Zyprexa also produces a nasty drugged feeling.

In 2004 I took Abilify -- from this same doc -- and it cause me to gain 30# in 3 months in addition to causing suicidal ideation, which at that time was a first.

In 2014 I tried Latuda, which didn't help any either.

In 2013 I started on Saphris. This was supposed to help anxiety & mood -- it did not. Though it proved to be an effective sleep aid, so I stayed on it till just a few months ago. I had to stop as it caused EPS, which still refuses to go away. Due to it I blink at a very high rate (I would get Botox to stop that if I weren't going to be dead soon) and I have all sorts of other abnormal involuntary movements. I can't write as a result of these twitches and I could not engage in my former hobby of target shooting as I can't possibly hold a gun steady enough in this condition.

So there you have four antipsychotics that all failed big time.

 

[The Hunter]

Have you ever tried MAOIs? There is more than just SSRIs, hard as that is to believe when 99% of AD scripts today are SSRIs.


It was 2003 and I went to a doc complaining of disabling social phobia. His FIRST choice was Xyprexa at a sky high dosage (20 mg I think). I was 246# and I'd read about how Zyprexa is infamous for weight gain and I expressed concern about this risk. He dismissed my concerns and gave an obese patient -- who had high blood pressure due to obesity -- a drug which would would end up causing 25# of weight gain in the next 6 weeks. Zyprexa also produces a nasty drugged feeling.

In 2004 I took Abilify -- from this same doc -- and it cause me to gain 30# in 3 months in addition to causing suicidal ideation, which at that time was a first.

In 2014 I tried Latuda, which didn't help any either.

In 2013 I started on Saphris. This was supposed to help anxiety & mood -- it did not. Though it proved to be an effective sleep aid, so I stayed on it till just a few months ago. I had to stop as it caused EPS, which still refuses to go away. Due to it I blink at a very high rate (I would get Botox to stop that if I weren't going to be dead soon) and I have all sorts of other abnormal involuntary movements. I can't write as a result of these twitches and I could not engage in my former hobby of target shooting as I can't possibly hold a gun steady enough in this condition.

So there you have four antipsychotics that all failed big time.

I have never used MAOIs and I have little knowledge about it.

I'm sorry for the damage the antipsychotics did to you. I just wrote that they seem to calm people because I read a scientist saying that and I have an aunt who had a psychotic outbreak and Olanzapine seemed to calm her.

 

[Skathon]

>"Mental Healthcare: what has it done for you?"
Ironically (amusingly?), it added several irreversible side effects, including brain and central(?) nervous system damage, to my collection.

 

[Pistolero114]

I have never used MAOIs and I have little knowledge about it.

I'm sorry for the damage the antipsychotics did to you. I just wrote that they seem to calm people because I read a scientist saying that and I have an aunt who had a psychotic outbreak and Olanzapine seemed to calm her.

If I am correct Olanzapine is a benzodiazapine which is a tranquilizer. So it should have a calming effect. I have a daughter who takes Klonopin. Same stuff. Valium; Serax and Librium are other examples. When I detoxed for the umpteenth time I was given Atavan. Benzo's are actually better for immediate relief from some mental health disorders. SSRI's take four to six weeks to get to theraputic levels. Sorry I rambled on. This is one place I don't get chided about doing that. Thanks

 

[21Neberg]

It postponed my wish for years, removed all aspects of impulsivity, resentment, any dramatic things like "I hope this shows people how sad I am", and all of those similar parts. I'm mentally in a place many old people get to. I've seen the world, done all I want to and more, don't have regrets, I'm just done. I don't want to keep moving solely to keep moving.

I'm not sure those kinds of existential issues can be fixed. Usually people get over them by having kids or being religious but neither of those options is in the cards for me.

I'm perfectly able to hang on until my natural death. That wouldn't feel torturous. I simply do not want to.

I can identify with what you're saying 10000%. Such a horrible feeling that we have to keep going until we're 80 years old, yet I simply don't want to lol. But everyone has to, life is a gift after all...

 

[Pistolero114]

I can identify with what you're saying 10000%. Such a horrible feeling that we have to keep going until we're 80 years old, yet I simply don't want to lol. But everyone has to, life is a gift after all...

But but but; I was told the only things you HAD to do were die and pay taxes.....damn; crushed

 

[LifeIsNotFun]

Absolutely nothing. I've seen so many specialists, been to so many Doctors etc etc. I felt like a lab rat, and these guys don't care, they just want money at the end of the day, and treat you like a lab experiment. The 'care' they show on their faces is all an act, and nothing more.

 

[inconsequential]

It, along with regular healthcare, have given me medical PTSD. Clinically diagnosable medical PTSD, on top of the PTSD that I already fucking had.

I dumped my last shrink after she told me to go work in a soup kitchen to see how bad people really had it.

I told her I've been a patron of those kitchens. She just stared at me like she'd never met a homeless person before.

There's a lot more before her; a lot, but I don't feel like typing it all out at the moment. Maybe later when I'm high off my ass.

 

[LifeIsNotFun]

It, along with regular healthcare, have given me medical PTSD. Clinically diagnosable medical PTSD, on top of the PTSD that I already fucking had.

I dumped my last shrink after she told me to go work in a soup kitchen to see how bad people really had it.

I told her I've been a patron of those kitchens. She just stared at me like she'd never met a homeless person before.

There's a lot more before her; a lot, but I don't feel like typing it all out at the moment. Maybe later when I'm high off my ass.

I've read your story on here, and I'm truly sorry for everything you have been through and going through. Also, I love it when they say go to a homeless shelter to see how bad people have it. They don't seem to realize every brain is wired differently, and everyone reacts to situations in their daily lives differently. I fucking hate the mental health staff, they just think its so fucking easy to just stop depression and make life A-ok in a heartbeat. It's nothing but a industry to them, and all they fucking care about is making money from clinical visits, using us as guinea pigs and then loading us up with drugs that make us feel even worse.

 

[inconsequential]

I've read your story on here, and I'm truly sorry for everything you have been through and going through. Also, I love it when they say go to a homeless shelter to see how bad people have it. They don't seem to realize every brain is wired differently, and everyone reacts to situations in their daily lives differently. I fucking hate the mental health staff, they just think its so fucking easy to just stop depression and make life A-ok in a heartbeat. It's nothing but a industry to them, and all they fucking care about is making money from clinical visits, using us as guinea pigs and then loading us up with drugs that make us feel even worse.

Thank you for your kindness. Life has been one hell of a ride; your username is apt for this. Life is not fun. It has not been fun, and I don't see it becoming fun.

You're entirely right about the guinea pig situation. With all the money they get from pharma, kickbacks for prescribing, how could we not be guinea pigs? They haven't tested half of these drugs on RATS sufficiently, much less had a long-term study of humans.

 

[LifeIsNotFun]

Thank you for your kindness. Life has been one hell of a ride; your username is apt for this. Life is not fun. It has not been fun, and I don't see it becoming fun.

You're entirely right about the guinea pig situation. With all the money they get from pharma, kickbacks for prescribing, how could we not be guinea pigs? They haven't tested half of these drugs on RATS sufficiently, much less had a long-term study of humans.

You are most welcome. My heart hurts with yours, always. And, you're right Life hasn't been a lot of fun for you, or me, or many people on this forum. It's so exhausting to keep going day in and day out. Just a constant uphill battle.

They're never going to cure mental illness, and instead will put a band aid on it with drugs. Its a money making industry, and it'll continue to be. Human life doesn't matter to the Elites of this world, and that's who run big pharma. Always follow the money, and you'll find the assholes who ruin everyone's lives day in and day out. They just want us cattle to make just enough money, take enough drugs, and go work as a slave, then get rewarded and then have that stolen by the government in taxes which is given back to the 1%. Yay. Fun!!!! Just kill me already lol.

 

[Orin]

Haven't been to one in years and have no intention to do so, mainly because now i understand they're part of this slave-machine that i want to escape.

 

[LifeIsNotFun]

Haven't been to one in years and have no intention to do so, mainly because now i understand they're part of this slave-machine that i want to escape.

Exactly. Well said.

 

[not_a_robot]

I have never used MAOIs and I have little knowledge about it.

I'm sorry for the damage the antipsychotics did to you. I just wrote that they seem to calm people because I read a scientist saying that and I have an aunt who had a psychotic outbreak and Olanzapine seemed to calm her.

They "calm people down" because they are a fucking chemical lobotomy.

Reckless Overprescribing Of Antipsychotics Killing Vets

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[inconsequential]

They "calm people down" because they are a fucking chemical lobotomy.

Can confirm. 600mg Seroquel. Slept 16+ hours per day, gained over 100 lbs that was hard as fuck to lose, cystic acne, and I don't remember 3 years.

Zombificafion. Total and complete zombification.

 

[Boonks]

Mental healthcare, what has it done for me? It's made me mental.

 

[deltahead]

i've only went to a psychiatrist after my family reported my parents to child services for keeping me out of school, and then hiding the letter they sent to us. my mom always went in with me for every session, so much time spent in that tiny fucking waiting room. i cherry-picked details for them, something that would make them feel smart for recognizing as a "depressive episode". one of the women i talked with cried. my mom also cried, as if this whole situation could have been any less real. apparently the story of a 12 year old wanting to die is very moving to people, i wouldn't know since i've spent so much time at this point just rehearsing it mentally. she asked me "did anyone ever...do something to you?" when i mentioned feeling dirty and ashamed. you could really tell those people were students. anyway, they prescribed me Sertraline, except my mom would cut every pill i took in half because medcine is very scary i fucking guess. after maybe 1 and a half doses she just threw it in the trash. i was fine with it because the whole thing was bullshit from the start anyway.

we decided to just pretend i was getting "better" and lie to everyone, just to get rid of this intrusion to our little cult family asap. i remember one occasion where two other students asked me if i'd ever done drugs or had sex or ever been in a relationship. they had silly grins on their faces. i was 16 at the time. maybe i just look older? i really don't know. after doing this bullshit for more than half a year they finally let me go. i had finally "healed" from my "depression" and was feeling much better. i guess it made my parents feel like i was finally "getting on the right track" at least. they've had it pretty easy these few years.

the very idea of "seeking help" is laughable.

 

[LifeIsNotFun]

Can confirm. 600mg Seroquel. Slept 16+ hours per day, gained over 100 lbs that was hard as fuck to lose, cystic acne, and I don't remember 3 years.

Zombificafion. Total and complete zombification.

Fucking hate big Pharma and the mental health industry.

 

[RM5998]

Can confirm. 600mg Seroquel. Slept 16+ hours per day, gained over 100 lbs that was hard as fuck to lose, cystic acne, and I don't remember 3 years.

Zombificafion. Total and complete zombification.

Sounds attractive. I'd like to sign up for that, it's better than nothing.