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I am not someone who has self-confidence in himself, but if there is one thing in life I trust in myself with, it is that I am very good at communicating with children. I owe this to my little sister. She was born when I was already 15, and I lost her when she was 8. Until she was born, I didn't really like children. I thought they were loud, annoying and I would stay away from them mostly. But my sister changed this perspective for me. As I started doing things together with her, went to park with her, pushed her on the swing, ate ice cream together etc... I started loving children, girls in general. So much so that I will always regret not studying something related to children, such as early childhood education to become a kindergarten teacher or something similar.

When I used to go pick my sister up from school, I would see her with her friends, and I would talk to them too, and they would all like me and enjoy talking to me. I would participate in their plays and we would play together and we would all have so much fun. After I lost my sister, it started to hurt so much seeing little children, especially girls outside. They all reminded me of my sister, so I would start crying out of nowhere whenever I saw little girls outside. Then in time, I started feeling happy as I saw them, and I would start interacting with them if the possibility was there. I still do it to this day, and every time, it ends up being a memorable moment for me in a good way. But mostly, parents will not be too thrilled about this and they will turn it into a memorable moment in a bad way.

One of those moments happened the other day. I was waiting for my turn in the hospital and in the waiting room there was just this little girl and she was playing with the toys that were in the room. She was 6, maybe 7, but not older. I started talking to her, and we were having a very nice conversation and she offered to play together, which I gladly accepted. Then after some time, her mother came from the doctor's room and said to the girl that it was time to go. By this moment, we already knew each other's names with the girl, and I said: "Bye, (Girl's Name)!", and she said it back: "Bye, (My Name)! Thanks for playing with me!". Her mother stopped suddenly, and looked at me as if she wanted to make sure that she was bothered by this. But she did not say anything, she just looked at me in an unfriendly way and left. At this point, I'm used to this kind of treatment by parents as someone who had this experience a lot. I'm also aware that this is not enough to come to the conclusion that she was necessarily rude to me, but it doesn't end here.

After I left the hospital, I went to the supermarket right across it, and as I was about to go to the checkout, I saw this little girl again in the confectionery aisle, and she was frantically looking for candies to make her mother buy one. I poked her gently on her back, and said "Hi, (Girl's Name)!". She was visibly happy as she turned around, then she waved at me and said "Hi, (My Name)!". Then, we started talking again, this time about our favorite candies. Her mother was in another aisle, and she came after some time, and saw us talking, and this time she was visibly bothered, and asked me in a hostile way why I was talking to her girl. I explained to her that we had a nice conversation in the hospital when she was playing, we played together and we got to know each other, and now that we saw each other again, we were both happy, and we were just having a nice chat. I also thought adding at the end that I lost my little sister and that's why I have a good connection with children, so that she doesn't think of me as some kind of weirdo, but I decided not to share this, because I wasn't sure if she would think of me as even more of a weirdo after hearing that. She didn't say anything, and took her daughter with her and left. The girl was looking in a very surprised way to her mother and asked her what the problem was.

Don't get me wrong. I understand. Every parent has the right to decide with whom their little child interacts or not, and I respect their wish. But what I do not understand is, if they are seeing it right there that their child is visibly having a good time, smiling, talking in a happy way, then what's wrong? We're in public, what will I do? It's not like we're talking in a very secluded area where no one can do anything in case I turn out to be a "dangerous" man. That is why I always try to do this in public areas so that parents do not feel the need to get defensive for whatever reason. Maybe it's my autism, but I genuinely can not see anything wrong with it.

This brings me to my title, every time I see this happening between a woman and a child, the exact opposite happens. The parents are always okay with it, and they even start talking to that woman in a friendly way, because for some reason, women are less "threatening" and they are not "dangerous" toward children, whereas parents are always cautious around me because for whatever reason, they have to believe that I'm a dangerous person who might do something to their child.

No need to mince words. It's because I'm a man. I can tell from different reactions by parents to myself and to women when they start having conversations with children outside. Most criminals are men, or however the prejudiced logic goes.

It's just not fair. I don't want to go outside anymore because even when I'm able to have a good time, it will still be ruined somehow by the society and their misplaced preconceptions.

Whatever, not long now until I'm with my baby sister.
 
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LoiteringClouds

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I'm so sorry to hear your story - I'm female and I didn't know how privileged I was. I think treating men like criminals is not okay. Life is generally unfair but I don't get why it's acceptable that being rude to men, especially when they are talking with girls. Thanks so much for sharing your story 🙏
And sorry for your sister - she was only 8 - but yes, you'll meet her again for sure 💙💛
 
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I am sorry that you experienced that. There is fear everywhere and no one trusts anyone anymore.
I feel very touched by your story because it shows how much you loved (still love) your sister and miss her.
Don't pay attention to mean people. You made the little girl happier by talking to her and pmaying with her. And that has a far reaching effect on her.
I wish you peace and rest whatever you decide for your future.
 
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Your story is extremely distressing because it reminds me of my situation. I think being a Male or Female can have its own disadvantages and advantages in their own way. In my case, I would have had a better childhood if I was a female, and I wouldn't have such responsibilities that are mandatory for me to follow through in my country . To recapitulate, it depends from society to society. Im sorry about your sister. I hope you find the freedom from your pain and your suffering eases.
 
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I'm so sorry to hear your story - I'm female and I didn't know how privileged I was. I think treating men like criminals is not okay. Life is generally unfair but I don't get why it's acceptable that being rude to men, especially when they are talking with girls. Thanks so much for sharing your story 🙏
And sorry for your sister - she was only 8 - but yes, you'll meet her again for sure 💙💛
Thank you very much for your kind words.

Of course, there are other aspects in life when women are treated in a negative way, as well, so I did not want to insinuate that women are privileged or anything like that. However, I have to admit that sometimes it feels like I am treated the way I am just for being male. The example I have given in my post is just one simple instance of how I've been treated in an unjust and unfair way due to my gender. I just do not understand why it must be that way.

Thanks again for the support and your kind words! It really means a lot to me.
 
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Twiceler

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Somewhere in more conservative society, you could be publically executed for your actions.
 
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Suicidal Loser

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Don't pay attention to mean people. You made the little girl happier by talking to her and pmaying with her. And that has a far reaching effect on her.
Thank you. Yes, I still remember her genuine smile. Thinking about it like the way you said makes me happy, but I also can not forget the way her mother looked at me, which makes me very depressed.
I wish you peace and rest whatever you decide for your future.
Thank you.
The thuth is the truth...
I do not know what you're insinuating or what "truth" you're talking about.
Somewhere in more conservative society, you could be publically executed for your actions.
My actions of talking to a little girl? You sound like you support those "conservative societies" and wish I would be executed.
 
FuneralCry

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I think the mother acted that way as you cannot trust strangers, it's a fact. Humans are capable of creating so harm and suffering, it's just the reality of existing here. And yes if a child is alone with a stranger it can be a dangerous situation, many children have been harmed that way. It would be foolish to trust complete strangers anyway, so it makes sense why that mother would be hostile and would react that way, it's just normal human behaviour, she was being protective over her child.
 
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Talking to little girls you don't know is just wrong. Get help.
 
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That sucks.
That said, I think I'd be equally wary of anybody, no matter their gender, who was talking to my (hypothetical) child. I wouldn't be unnecessarily hostile, though, probably just scope them out a bit.

Have you considered trying to get back into child education? It's never too late to career change.
 
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Suicidal Loser

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Talking to little girls you don't know is just wrong.
Talking.... is wrong? Since when?
Get help.
Wow... Telling people to get help on a suicide forum. I do not know why you got so triggered by my post.
I think the mother acted that way as you cannot trust strangers, it's a fact. Humans are capable of creating so harm and suffering, it's just the reality of existing here. And yes if a child is alone with a stranger it can be a dangerous situation, many children have been harmed that way. It would be foolish to trust complete strangers anyway, so it makes sense why that mother would be hostile and would react that way, it's just normal human behaviour, she was being protective over her child.
My point is, they do not react the same way when the person who does it is a woman, and that's a fact. So, I do not see why a parent has to be hostile just because I talked to the girl.

Also, she was not "alone" with me. We were in a crowded area, meaning there was no way for me to be able to do something to her.

To mods: I wish this thread locked/deleted because the posts against me saying that I need to "get help" and I am "wrong" just for talking to a girl is making me depressed and more inclined to ctb.

Thank you to everyone who showed understanding and offered their good wishes for the loss of my sister.
 
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As for my profile picture, I have actually just noticed that it was removed. Understandable, since it might be regarded as disturbing by some, but it was an album cover of the band "Numenorean" from their album "Home".

Now I changed it to the painting "Le Suicide" by Edouard Manet.
😐
 
Suicidal Loser

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It's ok, it wasn't meant for you. 😉
If you're insinuating something regarding the album cover, it's an album cover on which a dead little girl is depicted. As I stated, I have lost my little sister, and I saw her the same way as depicted on the album cover, so that album cover I mentioned always speaks to me, and I set it as my profile picture. Why does it bother you to the point that you felt the need to quote something I have said first time I joined this forum by stalking my profile?
 
kwho

kwho

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If you're insinuating something regarding the album cover, it's an album cover on which a dead little girl is depicted. As I stated, I have lost my little sister, and I saw her the same way as depicted on the album cover, so that album cover I mentioned always speaks to me, and I set it as my profile picture. Why does it bother you to the point that you felt the need to quote something I have said first time I joined this forum by stalking my profile?
Keep talking....
 
Suicidal Loser

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I'd like to repeat my wish to mods: I wish this thread locked/deleted because the posts against me saying that I need to "get help" and I am "wrong" just for talking to a girl is making me depressed and more inclined to ctb. @nozomu @RainAndSadness

I thought such attacks on this community were not allowed.

Thank you to everyone who showed understanding and offered their good wishes for the loss of my sister.
 
ringo99

ringo99

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Apr 18, 2023
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Talking to little girls you don't know is just wrong. Get help.
A lot of people here think they're shit when they're not. You're the first one to prove you truly are a pos
 
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I am not someone who has self-confidence in himself, but if there is one thing in life I trust in myself with, it is that I am very good at communicating with children. I owe this to my little sister. She was born when I was already 15, and I lost her when she was 8. Until she was born, I didn't really like children. I thought they were loud, annoying and I would stay away from them mostly. But my sister changed this perspective for me. As I started doing things together with her, went to park with her, pushed her on the swing, ate ice cream together etc... I started loving children, girls in general. So much so that I will always regret not studying something related to children, such as early childhood education to become a kindergarten teacher or something similar.

When I used to go pick my sister up from school, I would see her with her friends, and I would talk to them too, and they would all like me and enjoy talking to me. I would participate in their plays and we would play together and we would all have so much fun. After I lost my sister, it started to hurt so much seeing little children, especially girls outside. They all reminded me of my sister, so I would start crying out of nowhere whenever I saw little girls outside. Then in time, I started feeling happy as I saw them, and I would start interacting with them if the possibility was there. I still do it to this day, and every time, it ends up being a memorable moment for me in a good way. But mostly, parents will not be too thrilled about this and they will turn it into a memorable moment in a bad way.

One of those moments happened the other day. I was waiting for my turn in the hospital and in the waiting room there was just this little girl and she was playing with the toys that were in the room. She was 6, maybe 7, but not older. I started talking to her, and we were having a very nice conversation and she offered to play together, which I gladly accepted. Then after some time, her mother came from the doctor's room and said to the girl that it was time to go. By this moment, we already knew each other's names with the girl, and I said: "Bye, (Girl's Name)!", and she said it back: "Bye, (My Name)! Thanks for playing with me!". Her mother stopped suddenly, and looked at me as if she wanted to make sure that she was bothered by this. But she did not say anything, she just looked at me in an unfriendly way and left. At this point, I'm used to this kind of treatment by parents as someone who had this experience a lot. I'm also aware that this is not enough to come to the conclusion that she was necessarily rude to me, but it doesn't end here.

After I left the hospital, I went to the supermarket right across it, and as I was about to go to the checkout, I saw this little girl again in the confectionery aisle, and she was frantically looking for candies to make her mother buy one. I poked her gently on her back, and said "Hi, (Girl's Name)!". She was visibly happy as she turned around, then she waved at me and said "Hi, (My Name)!". Then, we started talking again, this time about our favorite candies. Her mother was in another aisle, and she came after some time, and saw us talking, and this time she was visibly bothered, and asked me in a hostile way why I was talking to her girl. I explained to her that we had a nice conversation in the hospital when she was playing, we played together and we got to know each other, and now that we saw each other again, we were both happy, and we were just having a nice chat. I also thought adding at the end that I lost my little sister and that's why I have a good connection with children, so that she doesn't think of me as some kind of weirdo, but I decided not to share this, because I wasn't sure if she would think of me as even more of a weirdo after hearing that. She didn't say anything, and took her daughter with her and left. The girl was looking in a very surprised way to her mother and asked her what the problem was.

Don't get me wrong. I understand. Every parent has the right to decide with whom their little child interacts or not, and I respect their wish. But what I do not understand is, if they are seeing it right there that their child is visibly having a good time, smiling, talking in a happy way, then what's wrong? We're in public, what will I do? It's not like we're talking in a very secluded area where no one can do anything in case I turn out to be a "dangerous" man. That is why I always try to do this in public areas so that parents do not feel the need to get defensive for whatever reason. Maybe it's my autism, but I genuinely can not see anything wrong with it.

This brings me to my title, every time I see this happening between a woman and a child, the exact opposite happens. The parents are always okay with it, and they even start talking to that woman in a friendly way, because for some reason, women are less "threatening" and they are not "dangerous" toward children, whereas parents are always cautious around me because for whatever reason, they have to believe that I'm a dangerous person who might do something to their child.

No need to mince words. It's because I'm a man. I can tell from different reactions by parents to myself and to women when they start having conversations with children outside. Most criminals are men, or however the prejudiced logic goes.

It's just not fair. I don't want to go outside anymore because even when I'm able to have a good time, it will still be ruined somehow by the society and their misplaced preconceptions.

Whatever, not long now until I'm with my baby sister.
I guess the main issue is that statistically speaking the vast majority of acts that are harmful to a kid are committed by a man. It is only understandable that patents would be more cautious in that circumstance. A bad apple ruins the entire batch, even though the vast majority of men would never garm a kid the minority that does casts a bad light on all of us.

I get your pain. I love kids and always loved talking to them. I'm pretty socially retarded in a sense and feel like I got left behind by everyone in middle school, it feels like I have a kind of understanding for kids and their problems. However as I stopped being a 5 foot boy and turned into a tall young man it just hurt me seeing that all the sympathy and trust people in me just vanished with zero apparently justifyable reason.
 
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I'm sorry about your young sister, and you seem really kind.

If you really care about children, I urge that you seek a profession working with them. This is the only way society and parents will put their faith in you to care for their children on your own.

Adults, especially older men, should not engage in public conversation with young girls without their parents' approval.

Maybe you're one of the good guys, but many others aren't, and parents don't like strangers approaching their little children without their consent.

Please accept this social regulation without acting like you are the victim. Parents do not want their children to trust strangers since kids do not understand who may harm them. It's not safe!

Next time, speak to the parents first before approaching their daughter! You have no right to spout nonsense about parents who are simply trying to protect their young daughters when out in public.
 
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Twiceler

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My actions of talking to a little girl? You sound like you support those "conservative societies" and wish I would be executed.
As a male, I just try to avoid people as much as I can, because I know who I am, I know I can be beaten for anything and I'm scared of it.
 
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Yeah, women are also creeps. I once saw a woman working at a bakery try to pat someone's baby -- on the crotch of his diaper. The parent pulled the baby back with a severe look and some kind of low voiced warning

I also thought adding at the end that I lost my little sister and that's why I have a good connection with children, so that she doesn't think of me as some kind of weirdo, but I decided not to share this, because I wasn't sure if she would think of me as even more of a weirdo after hearing that. She didn't say anything, and took her daughter with her and left.
I recommend you lead with that story. Proactively. Get the parent on your side, before you do anything. Parents are the frontline defenders of their children. You know how people around us often suck? Children have even fewer defenses, so they're more attacked

There's the pedo masturbating at the children's park, people wanting to touch the kids when the parent is away for a moment, etc

For everyone's win-win, it's best to stand at a safe-looking distance, be lighthearted, etc
 
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I'm sorry about your young sister, and you seem really kind.

If you really care about children, I urge that you seek a profession working with them. This is the only way society and parents will put their faith in you to care for their children on your own.

Adults, especially older men, should not engage in public conversation with young girls without their parents' approval.

Maybe you're one of the good guys, but many others aren't, and parents don't like strangers approaching their little children without their consent.

Please accept this social regulation without acting like you are the victim. Parents do not want their children to trust strangers since kids do not understand who may harm them. It's not safe!

Next time, speak to the parents first before approaching their daughter! You have no right to spout nonsense about parents who are simply trying to protect their young daughters when out in public.
that was very well said. though your intentions may be pure, @Suicidal Loser, you still have to understand it's not okay to just talk to any child you please as an adult, same goes for women too despite the lesser beat down.
If you're not going to give the mother any context as to why you approached her child *more* than once, it's safe to say why she gave you a look on the second meet. Out of context, yes, you look like a potential predator.

If you want to engage in conversation and teach kids, take that opportunity now to learn. It's never too late to be a teacher. Cause if not, prepare to be met with this, as expected because I mean let's be real here, any adult who constantly goes up to children let alone having gone up to the same child WITHOUT their guardians consent is not okay, it IS weird. Your trauma is your trauma, and if you don't wanna share that trauma with parents, then it's best that you stay away from their kids.
 
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