Men are a little strange to me

[terminalending]

I won't polish it, but I do think I have a strong dislike for most men. So ill mannered, so inconsiderate. They act only for their own benefit. They are flawed in many ways. I have always felt that men are on a different level than women, one lower than women. But what puzzles me the most is their complete devotion and utter obsession with sex. A man will do anything to be able to put his penis in somewhere. why? Relieving tension cannot be the answer, you have masturbation. Not ego satisfaction either. That doesn't explain putting a penis in a corpse, or a baby, or an animal. Very strange. Is sex really that good? Men's unyielding desire for sex is at the root of almost every problem in the world. You can see that men have projected it onto women. And even though the whole world is designed for men, men still have the nerve to complain. Complain that there is no sex, there is no money, there is no that, there is no this. I really am repulsed by men. It may sound strange to demonize 399.7 million people. But it is inevitable that all men are sick, consciously or unconsciously. A man must be something incomplete.

 

[mcrmybeloved]

as a ftm person something that really bothers me is acting like men in that specific way, I always hated how men acted and truly believe that all men are like that in someway, maybe there are ones who don't show it and I don't think is because men is specifically like that but made like that by our society but it does get me thinking about how did we get to this point.

 

[terminalending]

as a ftm person something that really bothers me is acting like men in that specific way, I always hated how men acted and truly believe that all men are like that in someway, maybe there are ones who don't show it and I don't think is because men is specifically like that but made like that by our society but it does get me thinking about how did we get to this point.

yes! It's all so infuriating. I think men have always been like that. Society didn't make them, they made society. they are deranged people

 

[BoredomSeeker]

I'm sorry, what?? What kind off men have you been around that will stick their dick in children and corpses?! I mean there are definitely horrible men out there, but there's also horrible women. I don't know how you came to have this extremely distorted view of men, but you are generalising about 4 billion people. If you have only encountered the bad 1%, then you are either terribly unlucky or have a severe confirmation bias.

The vast majority of men aren't depraved, sex addicted, money grabbing monsters. I'm sorry if you've only had that experience of men, but know that almost all men aren't like that.

 

[mcrmybeloved]

yes! It's all so infuriating. I think men have always been like that. Society didn't make them, they made society. they are deranged people

You're so right, they are the ones who made the society and the ones who keep it the way that it is, this makes my transition so hard I feel like I'm not one of them because I'm not like that but I refuse to become that.

I'm sorry, what?? What kind off men have you been around that will stick their dick in children and corpses?! I mean there are definitely horrible men out there, but there's also horrible women. I don't know how you came to have this extremely distorted view of men, but you are generalising about 4 billion people. If you have only encountered the bad 1%, then you are either terribly unlucky or have a severe confirmation bias.

The vast majority of men aren't depraved, sex addicted, money grabbing monsters. I'm sorry if you've only had that experience of men, but know that almost all men aren't like that.

yeah not all of them ofc but what is seen as correct in society is that sadly

I'm sorry, what?? What kind off men have you been around that will stick their dick in children and corpses?! I mean there are definitely horrible men out there, but there's also horrible women. I don't know how you came to have this extremely distorted view of men, but you are generalising about 4 billion people. If you have only encountered the bad 1%, then you are either terribly unlucky or have a severe confirmation bias.

The vast majority of men aren't depraved, sex addicted, money grabbing monsters. I'm sorry if you've only had that experience of men, but know that almost all men aren't like that.

yeah not all of them ofc but what is seen as correct in society is that sadly

 

[Peerless_Cucumber]

You know that you're on a suicide Forum where a lot of men are present? We're not all repulsive. Of course there are bad men out there. However there are also bad women out there. We don't go around yelling that all women are monsters. Women are nice. Most women are nice. Most men also are. I'm sorry that you've had bad experiences but we're not all bad people.

For any man reading this, you're not a sex obsessed monster. You aren't a bad person.

I really don't get how you're okay with posting something like this on a suicide forum of all places. Shame on you.

 

[Aisley]

There are good men out there. But most men, good or bad, were raised by women, and sometimes also men. But mostly women. Not blaming here, and it really looks like it.
Also, boys are raised to take while girls are raised to give, VERY GENERALLY SPEAKING.
Also, women have a survival hard-drive to live/survive as prey, which helps us watch a room, read it and see all fifty things happening at once. I think that's lodged in the brain, not just a taught behavoir from telling daughters that they are prey, but it's arguable, either way. The point is we See. And it translates to us experiencing moments on more levels than men. The dear that sees nearly panoramically, rather than the lion that sees what's in front ot it.
Just a few little points. And again, this was a huge generalization. Exceptions are everywhere.

 

[LtParis]

I kind of agree, but the problem is how wide their influence is. A dozen self conscious introverts will go unnoticed beside one over the top "alpha" type.
A big contributing factor to my first attempt was female friends being murdered, I don't easily trust anyone, but least of all people that remind me of their attacker.

 

[terminalending]

I'm sorry, what?? What kind off men have you been around that will stick their dick in children and corpses?! I mean there are definitely horrible men out there, but there's also horrible women. I don't know how you came to have this extremely distorted view of men, but you are generalising about 4 billion people. If you have only encountered the bad 1%, then you are either terribly unlucky or have a severe confirmation bias.

The vast majority of men aren't depraved, sex addicted, money grabbing monsters. I'm sorry if you've only had that experience of men, but know that almost all men aren't like that.

Have you never met a man before? Even if it means sticking your dick in a child or a corpse, they'll do it. Because of horrible men, there are horrible women! Do you really think you are a good person? You know, maybe not all of you are bad. Some of you are sympathizers and apologists. Some blame the victims. Some really need evidence to confirm, others don't want to discredit the guilty man. Many people do not have the courage to confront and alienate the predatory men around them. look online! look for studies, look for articles, look for testamonies. You men are ill. Don't you know it? It's very strange. You are trying to make us believe that humans are inherently selfish and egotistical because you can't cope knwoing women were born told to put everyone on equal - or higher- footing. male individiulism is strange. i dont say this from senselessness.

There are good men out there. But most men, good or bad, were raised by women, and sometimes also men. But mostly women. Not blaming here, and it really looks like it.
Also, boys are raised to take while girls are raised to give, VERY GENERALLY SPEAKING.
Also, women have a survival hard-drive to live/survive as prey, which helps us watch a room, read it and see all fifty things happening at once. I think that's lodged in the brain, not just a taught behavoir from telling daughters that they are prey, but it's arguable, either way. The point is we See. And it translates to us experiencing moments on more levels than men. The dear that sees nearly panoramically, rather than the lion that sees what's in front ot it.
Just a few little points. And again, this was a huge generalization. Exceptions are everywhere.

Exceptions are nowhere to be found when it is so embedded in them

I kind of agree, but the problem is how wide their influence is. A dozen self conscious introverts will go unnoticed beside one over the top "alpha" type.
A big contributing factor to my first attempt was female friends being murdered, I don't easily trust anyone, but least of all people that remind me of their attacker.

I don't understand your first point, sorry!

You know that you're on a suicide Forum where a lot of men are present? We're not all repulsive. Of course there are bad men out there. However there are also bad women out there. We don't go around yelling that all women are monsters. Women are nice. Most women are nice. Most men also are. I'm sorry that you've had bad experiences but we're not all bad people.

For any man reading this, you're not a sex obsessed monster. You aren't a bad person.

I really don't get how you're okay with posting something like this on a suicide forum of all places. Shame on you.

If delusions work, so be it. But you know it, we all know it! Men, you are imperfect. you are something bad .did you do something good? There are bad women because there are bad men. Maybe you'll feel better now, thinking like this. But that's because you're a man. There's not much you can do, but you can only tell yourself that the truth is otherwise.
and hey! so many women hating men have been on here as well. i do not blame you for being suicidal.

 

[zipperstuck5171]

Interesting post. I'm an old school romance type. You clearly have been with some strange men. Treating a woman right and making them smile is my rule. Most women I've run into cannot handle being treated like I treat them so it goes both ways

 

[carac]

Sorry but this is pretty much the definition of bigotry.

 

[terminalending]

Interesting post. I'm an old school romance type. You clearly have been with some strange men. Treating a woman right and making them smile is my rule. Most women I've run into cannot handle being treated like I treat them so it goes both ways

this isn't about romantic relationships. no romance whatsoever

Sorry but this is pretty much the definition of bigotry.

is it not sexism?

 

[Davey36000]

Not all men are like that... I've also seen women who seem very lustful and dress only to grab men's attention, that's not better either...

Also a really bad generalization, maybe it applies more for horny teenagers but not for fully grown adults.

 

[terminalending]

Not all men are like that... I've also seen women who seem very lustful and dress only to grab men's attention, that's not better either...

Also a really bad generalization, maybe it applies more for horny teenagers but not for fully grown adults.

It's a human influence. Women controlled their lustful desires until men appeared. He made her think that serving him sexually should be her purpose.
I think it's a generalization that applies to men of all ages. It makes me wonder if some of you men here have ever encountered a man outside of your life. I don't see women killing men for being men.

 

[angel31]

I see where u r coming from, and I do agree, that many men suck... but gender is a social construct, so I dont think that this applies to men in general... But I think u are seeing the world completely black and white, not trying to offend u and forgetting that Gender and sex are a spectrum=> there is no this is man this not, its more a this is more man then this and ur also completely ignoring ace men... and ace men exist... and "how ace" u are is a spectrum too... Im really not trying to offend u in any way please dont misunderstand me...
But im a gender abolishionist, so I do want to remove all differences between genders... so I really dont believe these differences are inherent if that makes sense.
Btw im really sry if u had bad experiences with men but I do believe this does not apply to all of them... <3

 

[Peerless_Cucumber]

Have you never met a man before? Even if it means sticking your dick in a child or a corpse, they'll do it. Because of horrible men, there are horrible women! Do you really think you are a good person? You know, maybe not all of you are bad. Some of you are sympathizers and apologists. Some blame the victims. Some really need evidence to confirm, others don't want to discredit the guilty man. Many people do not have the courage to confront and alienate the predatory men around them. look online! look for studies, look for articles, look for testamonies. You men are ill. Don't you know it? It's very strange. You are trying to make us believe that humans are inherently selfish and egotistical because you can't cope knwoing women were born told to put everyone on equal - or higher- footing. male individiulism is strange. i dont say this from senselessness.

[....]

If delusions work, so be it. But you know it, we all know it! Men, you are imperfect. you are something bad .did you do something good? There are bad women because there are bad men. Maybe you'll feel better now, thinking like this. But that's because you're a man. There's not much you can do, but you can only tell yourself that the truth is otherwise.
and hey! so many women hating men have been on here as well. i do not blame you for being suicidal.

I feel physically sick reading this post. I've never thought of anything you said and I can guarantee you that most men haven't as well.


Also your accusations against the other poster also make me feel sick. They've never hurt you in any way and yet you go tell them they're a bad person? Because they defended men against your bigotry? I'm sorry what.


I'm a really peaceful individual and do not wish to fight. However I can't let you call all men mentally ill for simply being born a man. I don't know what is going on in your life right now. I'm trying to be sympathetic but I just can't.


I've been abused by men as well. However not all men are like that. They don't deserve to be treated like this and hated on. Just because you've had some bad experiences with men doesn't mean all men deserve to die. Go touch some grass.

 

[BoredomSeeker]

Have you never met a man before? Even if it means sticking your dick in a child or a corpse, they'll do it. Because of horrible men, there are horrible women! Do you really think you are a good person? You know, maybe not all of you are bad. Some of you are sympathizers and apologists. Some blame the victims. Some really need evidence to confirm, others don't want to discredit the guilty man. Many people do not have the courage to confront and alienate the predatory men around them. look online! look for studies, look for articles, look for testamonies. You men are ill. Don't you know it? It's very strange. You are trying to make us believe that humans are inherently selfish and egotistical because you can't cope knwoing women were born told to put everyone on equal - or higher- footing. male individiulism is strange. i dont say this from senselessness.

As a man I can tell you I have never felt the urge to stick my dick in a child or corpse. I'm not quite sure what you mean with the part about

Some blame the victims. Some really need evidence to confirm, others don't want to discredit the guilty man

Are you talking about cases of rape and sexual assault? Because in that case evidence is absolutely needed, there's a reason for the whole "innocent until proven guilty". Blaming the victim however is obviously horrible, and those that think it is reasonable are at best very misguided, and at worst just really terrible people.

Many people do not have the courage to confront and alienate the predatory men around them

Many men are afraid to report predatory women, that's just how it is. Whilst that is clearly horrible, victims of especially sexual assault and similar will often have a difficult time bringing it up.

You men are ill.

That's a generalisation based on what? Unless you can cite studies that prove that most men are deranged, this is just an incredibly hateful and sexist idea to harbour.

You are trying to make us believe that humans are inherently selfish and egotistical because you can't cope knwoing women were born told to put everyone on equal - or higher- footing.

Humans are a mix of selfish and social. This is because some degree of selfishness is needed to survive, but humans are also a social species by necessity, we wouldn't have survived the African plains otherwise hundreds of thousands of years ago. Also, men and women should be on equal footing, and they mostly are in modern times. Are there men that think women are inferior? Clearly. Are they wrong to think that? Yes, of course. Are there women who think men are inferior? Yes, you for example. Are you wrong to think that? Yes, Unless you have studies that say otherwise.

 

[terminalending]

I feel physically sick reading this post. I've never thought of anything you said and I can guarantee you that most men haven't as well.


Also your accusations against the other poster also make me feel sick. They've never hurt you in any way and yet you go tell them they're a bad person? Because they defended men against your bigotry? I'm sorry what.


I'm a really peaceful individual and do not wish to fight. However I can't let you call all men mentally ill for simply being born a man. I don't know what is going on in your life right now. I'm trying to be sympathetic but I just can't.


I've been abused by men as well. However not all men are like that. They don't deserve to be treated like this and hated on. Just because you've had some bad experiences with men doesn't mean all men deserve to die. Go touch some grass.

It's an undeniable fact that you're bad. But it can be hidden, your flaws. You men, you are a bit silly. You feel so attacked! I say this is further proof of your weakness and inferiority. But, I don't think you chose to be bad. So, even though you think you're good, you're not, but it isn't your fault fully.
I wish to see you defend women with this enthusiasm one day.

 

[Yakamoz]

So are women to me

 

[terminalending]

As a man I can tell you I have never felt the urge to stick my dick in a child or corpse. I'm not quite sure what you mean with the part about

Are you talking about cases of rape and sexual assault? Because in that case evidence is absolutely needed, there's a reason for the whole "innocent until proven guilty". Blaming the victim however is obviously horrible, and those that think it is reasonable are at best very misguided, and at worst just really terrible people.


Many men are afraid to report predatory women, that's just how it is. Whilst that is clearly horrible, victims of especially sexual assault and similar will often have a difficult time bringing it up.


That's a generalisation based on what? Unless you can cite studies that prove that most men are deranged, this is just an incredibly hateful and sexist idea to harbour.


Humans are a mix of selfish and social. This is because some degree of selfishness is needed to survive, but humans are also a social species by necessity, we wouldn't have survived the African plains otherwise hundreds of thousands of years ago. Also, men and women should be on equal footing, and they mostly are in modern times. Are there men that think women are inferior? Clearly. Are they wrong to think that? Yes, of course. Are there women who think men are inferior? Yes, you for example. Are you wrong to think that? Yes, Unless you have studies that say otherwise.

You think being a good man is not sticking your penis in something? You have funny jokes.

I think you are missing my point. Why are you focused on the one part you can defend?

Men are afraid of women? I see. I can believe that. But, you know, how about the women who died in the hands of men? I'd like to hear them report their killer. Oh, wait, it isn't possible. Tell me, how many men are killed in the hands of women for being men? Are you afriad of being a man? What harm will you face as a man in the hands of women? tell me, my curiousity is being stimulated.

Google is your tool! Take consideration scinece journals, articles, manifestos, testamonies.., what more?

See, you're doing it! Women are on equal footing today? You are so funny. So funny! Shall we take a look outside of America? i don't see that equality. Your eyes, they're stuck in your bubble. Women exist outside of it. 178 countries! That many countries have unequality between man and woman. You are ignorant, which is shocking in the day of technology!

So are women to me

Is it because you are unintelligent?

 

[Huggs]

I can't change your mind but this is just wrong. Men and women are both human. There are terrible humans and there are good humans. You're looking at a chunk of the population of a demographic and saying it's the whole demographic.

 

[Peerless_Cucumber]

It's an undeniable fact that you're bad. But it can be hidden, your flaws. You men, you are a bit silly. You feel so attacked! I say this is further proof of your weakness and inferiority. But, I don't think you chose to be bad. So, even though you think you're good, you're not, but it isn't your fault fully.
I wish to see you defend women with this enthusiasm one day.

I'd defend any woman against predators any day. I'd also defend any man against predators any day. I'm not a bad person. You assuming I am just because I'm a man hurst a little you know.

 

[terminalending]

I can't change your mind but this is just wrong. Men and women are both human. There are terrible humans and there are good humans. You're looking at a chunk of the population of a demographic and saying it's the whole demographic.

chunk? define me chunk. how many?

 

[Torabol]

But it is inevitable that all men are sick, consciously or unconsciously. A man must be something incomplete.

Sorry, you don't convince me. Best of luck, though.

 

[terminalending]

I'd defend any woman against predators any day. I'd also defend any man against predators any day. I'm not a bad person. You assuming I am just because I'm a man hurst a little you know.

does that make you good? you sound like someone who is trying to coninvce themselves that they are in fact good. maybe. maybe you helping someone is good. but that doesn't remove the evil and the imperfect embedded in you. it is okay to feel hurt, it's a truth that i would dislike too.

 

[Lucilius]

I won't polish it, but I do think I have a strong dislike for most men. So ill mannered, so inconsiderate. They act only for their own benefit. They are flawed in many ways. I have always felt that men are on a different level than women, one lower than women. But what puzzles me the most is their complete devotion and utter obsession with sex. A man will do anything to be able to put his penis in somewhere. why? Relieving tension cannot be the answer, you have masturbation. Not ego satisfaction either. That doesn't explain putting a penis in a corpse, or a baby, or an animal. Very strange. Is sex really that good? Men's unyielding desire for sex is at the root of almost every problem in the world. You can see that men have projected it onto women. And even though the whole world is designed for men, men still have the nerve to complain. Complain that there is no sex, there is no money, there is no that, there is no this. I really am repulsed by men. It may sound strange to demonize 399.7 million people. But it is inevitable that all men are sick, consciously or unconsciously. A man must be something incomplete.

Let me guess. You are as much into sex as the orangutans you like to fuck. Then after the fact, sick of having lowered yourself this way you project your self-disgust and your disgust for them onto the entire male sex, deeming everyone a sex-obsessed orangutan. Many such cases.

That or you are the typical lesbian who objectifies women just as much as the average male orangutan, but thinks her objectification is made sooo different and pure by the absence of a penis.

 

[angel31]

I am sorry but u are arguing that the Genders Men and Woman are inherently different. Every piece of research we have suggest otherwise, it suggest that Gender is a social construct and there are no inherent differences. I am sorry to tell u but u are arguing against science rn...

does that make you good? you sound like someone who is trying to coninvce themselves that they are in fact good. maybe. maybe you helping someone is good. but that doesn't remove the evil and the imperfect embedded in you. it is okay to feel hurt, it's a truth that i would dislike too.

Not trying to be offend u in any way, but if a woman were to defend someone would that be bc she is good or bc she is trying to convince herself? If u say yes to this, then u have a circular argument. Men are bad bc men are bad. If u say no then you have made no argument that Men are worse.
I think you are projecting from the entire group of men on the individual. And yes many men are shit. And men as a group are. But that doesnt say that every man has to be shit... I hope this made sense

 

[misarexic]

i think that pitting all men into a negative stereotype is extremely silly and counterproductive, we should be focusing that energy towards the men who actually perpectuate that toxic mindset instead of grouping every single man as awful.

women should have every right to be uncomfortable around men, but hating every man is counter intuitive and a little close minded

 

[LtParis]

Have you never met a man before? Even if it means sticking your dick in a child or a corpse, they'll do it. Because of horrible men, there are horrible women! Do you really think you are a good person? You know, maybe not all of you are bad. Some of you are sympathizers and apologists. Some blame the victims. Some really need evidence to confirm, others don't want to discredit the guilty man. Many people do not have the courage to confront and alienate the predatory men around them. look online! look for studies, look for articles, look for testamonies. You men are ill. Don't you know it? It's very strange. You are trying to make us believe that humans are inherently selfish and egotistical because you can't cope knwoing women were born told to put everyone on equal - or higher- footing. male individiulism is strange. i dont say this from senselessness.

Exceptions are nowhere to be found when it is so embedded in them

I don't understand your first point, sorry!

If delusions work, so be it. But you know it, we all know it! Men, you are imperfect. you are something bad .did you do something good? There are bad women because there are bad men. Maybe you'll feel better now, thinking like this. But that's because you're a man. There's not much you can do, but you can only tell yourself that the truth is otherwise.
and hey! so many women hating men have been on here as well. i do not blame you for being suicidal.

By my first point I mean that the types of men you're referring to make a big impact. I don't think there are many of them, but they make the news, they ruin lives, take peoples sense of safety, the impact they have is huge for just one person.
For every guy like that there's probably hundreds more that would never dream of doing such a thing, just in my local area there's a memorial for a girl who was killed, 33 years ago, there are people who still don't feel safe because of that.

 

[Peerless_Cucumber]

does that make you good? you sound like someone who is trying to coninvce themselves that they are in fact good. maybe. maybe you helping someone is good. but that doesn't remove the evil and the imperfect embedded in you. it is okay to feel hurt, it's a truth that i would dislike too.

I'd hope it does? What do you mean with the evil and imperfect that is embedded in me? Could you describe that a little more so that I might understand where you're coming from? I'd really like to understand your view point.