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kbye4321

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I dont know why nobody is clarifying this but ANYTHING on the darknet is FAKE and NOT REAL. DO NOT buy the fake shit they are selling.
 
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Commitmentphile101

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Apr 16, 2020
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If it does not get routed through your VPN it will get through your local ISP, how is that better?

I dont know why nobody is clarifying this but ANYTHING on the darknet is FAKE and NOT REAL. DO NOT buy the fake shit they are selling.

Guys please all stop messing with my head which is already really confused as it is. I was planning on setting everything up so I could purchase N from C this week. What is going on please? People are now saying they are unsure if the correct instructions are up or not and there'll be scammers, now people saying its all a scam...
I really just wanted to set up this week, buy it, get it in a month, and be at peace but this is causing more stress...
 
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https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/n-powder-method-step-by-step.44871/

Guys please check my thread. It gives you instructions on how to find N
Guys please all stop messing with my head which is already really confused as it is. I was planning on setting everything up so I could purchase N from C this week. What is going on please? People are now saying they are unsure if the correct instructions are up or not and there'll be scammers, now people saying its all a scam...
I really just wanted to set up this week, buy it, get it in a month, and be at peace but this is causing more stress...
I've seen many members here got N from C so far
 
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Lost.soul

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Guys please all stop messing with my head which is already really confused as it is. I was planning on setting everything up so I could purchase N from C this week. What is going on please? People are now saying they are unsure if the correct instructions are up or not and there'll be scammers, now people saying its all a scam...
I really just wanted to set up this week, buy it, get it in a month, and be at peace but this is causing more stress...
C is a reliable vendor. Many people have checked it out. But now, because of the situation with the coronavirus, he does not send to all countries.
 
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Commitmentphile101

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C is a reliable vendor. Many people have checked it out. But now, because of the situation with the coronavirus, he does not send to all countries.

I am in the UK so hopefully that should be ok?
 
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Deafsn0w

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Sep 4, 2018
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I am in the UK so hopefully that should be ok?
C doesn't send N to certain countries, such as Australia and China. It's due to strict customs. But in the uk, you should be able to get it from C.
 
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checkouttime

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I am sure i have recently read a thread on here saying dark.fail has been compromised?????

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...lly-compromised-do-not-use.44963/#post-815996

I knew i wasn't going crazy!!!!!
 
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Guys, who received the package from C, please tell me what it looks like? How is it packed? I want to understand how safe it is for customs.
 
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Mud.

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Oct 27, 2018
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Guys, who received the package from C, please tell me what it looks like? How is it packed? I want to understand how safe it is for customs.
It's not allowed to post info like that on the board and for good reason.
LE is reading along too.
 
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Deleted member 14386

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hello, yeah I agree this stuff needs to be updated, I think I posted like a week ago about d**k*ails canary going down for 2 months, then the whole site went down for a week, popped back up, canary went back online and everything is good.

1 of 2 things happened,
1- d**k*ails admin (The ADMIN!! The guy who really know security well and told us to not use the site if the canary wasn't updated) messed up, left it offline for months, had a 'maintenance issue' with the site being taken down for a week, then everything was fine.
2- LE found him, took months to get access to the admins private keys (not hard for LE, especially in 2 months), took the site down and made it their own.

Personally I think the 2nd is more likely and even if option 1 happened I don't want an admin that does that sus shit. Onion.live is the new fave on dread, I kinda like it better anyway
I dont know why nobody is clarifying this but ANYTHING on the darknet is FAKE and NOT REAL. DO NOT buy the fake shit they are selling.
I'm trying. Source? Evidence?
I am in the UK so hopefully that should be ok?
All good
If it does not get routed through your VPN it will get through your local ISP, how is that better?
It is inside TOR(the onion network) and not a VPN company that can see what you are doing (potentially). Just...if you don't know opsec, don't use a vpn with tor.
edit: Let me clarify that, it can be done but it's a threat level thing. If you're a massive billion dollar drug-dealer it might be appropriate. If you're just placing one order then use tor, no vpn. If you wanna be super secure you have to learn how to route Tor>Vpn>Tor>onion, which is unnecessary for the threat level.
 
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checkouttime

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hello, yeah I agree this stuff needs to be updated, I think I posted like a week ago about d**k*ails canary going down for 2 months, then the whole site went down for a week, popped back up, canary went back online and everything is good.

1 of 2 things happened,
1- d**k*ails admin (The ADMIN!! The guy who really know security well and told us to not use the site if the canary wasn't updated) messed up, left it offline for months, had a 'maintenance issue' with the site being taken down for a week, then everything was fine.
2- LE found him, took months to get access to the admins private keys (not hard for LE, especially in 2 months), took the site down and made it their own.

Personally I think the 2nd is more likely and even if option 1 happened I don't want an admin that does that sus shit. Onion.live is the new fave on dread, I kinda like it better anyway

Source? Evidence?

All good

It is inside TOR(the onion network) and not a VPN company that can see what you are doing (potentially). Just...if you don't know opsec, don't use a vpn with tor.
edit: Let me clarify that, it can be done but it's a threat level thing. If you're a massive billion dollar drug-dealer it might be appropriate. If you're just placing one order then use tor, no vpn. If you wanna be super secure you have to learn how to route Tor>Vpn>Tor>onion, which is unnecessary for the threat level.


dark net Yeah that 1st bit doesn't sound too 'legit' to me...... just forgot about a site they are admin on for 2 months!!!! I might not understand the whole thing but i can sniff out BS!!!!!!!
 
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Sam-Wise

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Aug 12, 2020
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Hey, does anyone know what c's address is or how to contact them? Please pm me! I'm new to all this!
 
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youngalaska

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Mar 30, 2020
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If it does not get routed through your VPN it will get through your local ISP, how is that better?
You're using the Tor browser, so your ISP can't see what you're doing. However, when you use a VPN, they see everything you're doing so you're no longer anonymous.
Educate yourself mate.
I dont know why nobody is clarifying this but ANYTHING on the darknet is FAKE and NOT REAL. DO NOT buy the fake shit they are selling.
Do you make a habit of spouting bullshit on various forums or is it just this one in particular?

Let me know if you need photographic evidence of the 30+ orders of illegal substances I've received from the darknet from just this year alone.
 
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rt1989526

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Aug 2, 2020
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Can anybody here describe how they sent their product for testing? PM me if possible
 
not4us

not4us

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Sep 21, 2019
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You're using the Tor browser, so your ISP can't see what you're doing. However, when you use a VPN, they see everything you're doing so you're no longer anonymous.
Educate yourself mate.
So using Tor alone guarantees perfect anonymity?
I am new to this, but everywhere I go on deep web I come across warnings that I should use VPN with Tor, is it kind of deceit? what is it aimed at?
 
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Emily123

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May 28, 2019
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So using Tor alone guarantees perfect anonymity?
I am new to this, but everywhere I go on deep web I come across warnings that I should use VPN with Tor, is it kind of deceit? what is it aimed at?
You can use vpn (a well known ) but i have no problem to use Tor with ecryption of sensitive information (like the address that you'll send to the vendor ) . Tor has an encryption and nobody can read the encrypted messages . if they monitor you, they will just notice that you are working with darknet . if you use vpn , they'll not even notice that
 
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EternalDarkness

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So using Tor alone guarantees perfect anonymity?
I am new to this, but everywhere I go on deep web I come across warnings that I should use VPN with Tor, is it kind of deceit? what is it aimed at?

If you want additional safety you can also deinstall windows, install Linux, install a virtual machine with Linux on it and use Tor with a VPN from it but imo thats just overkill. You dont try to do something thats worth the effort required to catch you and they wouldnt know anyway, because you use Tor.
 
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Thegoldenapples

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Aug 12, 2020
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I thought it was better to not use a VPN? It causes more problems? I've read that in other threads.
 
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Commitmentphile101

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Apr 16, 2020
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You're using the Tor browser, so your ISP can't see what you're doing. However, when you use a VPN, they see everything you're doing so you're no longer anonymous.
Educate yourself mate.

To be fair he didnt say he knew everything 100%. He was just asking.
 
Lost.soul

Lost.soul

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C's last feedback on EM that tested purity is 72%.
 
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Fire&Ash

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Apr 15, 2020
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Hello I have read this thread of the beginning to end. I am having trouble with understanding how to open a wallet. I saw someone post that it is good to open two wallets and then transfer to bitcoin and then to the EM. It's just seems alittle overwhelming I have done my best to research this but then I get stuck. Will anyone pm me how to do it correctly? Thanks
 
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Thegoldenapples

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Aug 12, 2020
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Hello I have read this thread of the beginning to end. I am having trouble with understanding how to open a wallet. I saw someone post that it is good to open two wallets and then transfer to bitcoin and then to the EM. It's just seems alittle overwhelming I have done my best to research this but then I get stuck. Will anyone pm me how to do it correctly? Thanks
I'm in the same boat. It's all a bit much. Please pm me too.
Hello I have read this thread of the beginning to end. I am having trouble with understanding how to open a wallet. I saw someone post that it is good to open two wallets and then transfer to bitcoin and then to the EM. It's just seems alittle overwhelming I have done my best to research this but then I get stuck. Will anyone pm me how to do it correctly? Thanks

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/simple-bitcoin-beginners-guide.26742/

This should help too
 
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vacant_n

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Aug 13, 2020
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So I have a few questions about N. I'm sure the answers are somewhere here but I've already used the search function extensively and I'd appreciate if anyone could reiterate for me.

-What's the shelf-life of N like, specifically in powdered form? If I wanted to keep it around for a sort of "break glass in case of emergency"-type situation is that viable?

-Has anyone here had orders from C seized by customs? I'm seeing a number of people say that about A but it seems rarer with C.

-If I order from C, I'm assuming I have to find my own antiemetics elsewhere? I read that A provides them with his orders, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that's true for C as well.
 
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rhiino

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May 13, 2020
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1. Nobody really knows that, but years at least.
2. As far as I know, no.
3. You have to get them elsewhere.
 
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So I have a few questions about N. I'm sure the answers are somewhere here but I've already used the search function extensively and I'd appreciate if anyone could reiterate for me.

-What's the shelf-life of N like, specifically in powdered form? If I wanted to keep it around for a sort of "break glass in case of emergency"-type situation is that viable?

-Has anyone here had orders from C seized by customs? I'm seeing a number of people say that about A but it seems rarer with C.

-If I order from C, I'm assuming I have to find my own antiemetics elsewhere? I read that A provides them with his orders, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that's true for C as well.

1) Approximately 6-8 years if stored well
2) No, there haven't been any reports of seizures so far, nor have there been reports of police confiscations (which a handful of A customers reported)
3) Yes you need to get AEs separately because neither C nor A provide them. A used to a while ago but no longer does either. You can easily get AEs on the darknet markets using the exact same procedure you used to order N from C on Empire Market
 
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Gamja

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Can you still order from EM? I read somewhere that only orders from WHM were processed but I'm not familiar with other cryptocurrencies like XMR
gotta figure out if the process is the same as btc, not very knowledgeable about this stuff @@@
 
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Hello I have read this thread of the beginning to end. I am having trouble with understanding how to open a wallet. I saw someone post that it is good to open two wallets and then transfer to bitcoin and then to the EM. It's just seems alittle overwhelming I have done my best to research this but then I get stuck. Will anyone pm me how to do it correctly? Thanks
If you read the guide I posted at the beginning of the thread, I suggest using Electrum bitcoin wallet:

""6) Download Electrum Bitcoin Wallet
  • This will act as a "middle wallet" (your money should be converted on the exchange, then moved to Electrum, THEN to Empire Market). This adds a layer of security b/c crypto exchanges are alerted by suspicious transfers to wallets possibly associated with darknet markets. The middle wallet is essential to negating suspicion.
  • ***Only open Electrum with Tor open. Electrum has a feature that allows you to further anonymize transfers using Tor. In the lower right there should be a colored dot that you can click on indicating that your Electrum activity is routing through Tor. It should be blue if this is working.""
You can download it at this link:

Basically, electrum is a software you run on your computer that allows you to receive, store, and send bitcoin. The bitcoin exchange you use (varies by country) should have a native wallet that stores the bitcoin when you buy it. It is not advisable to transfer from the exchange directly to the marketplace, so you need to transfer to Electrum before transferring to the darknet market. The actual opening of the electrum "middle" wallet is as simple as downloading the software on a computer and following the built-in instructions carefully. If you have trouble doing that, I would have reservations about moving forward without doing further research
 
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Can you still order from EM? I read somewhere that only orders from WHM were processed but I'm not familiar with other cryptocurrencies like XMR
gotta figure out if the process is the same as btc, not very knowledgeable about this stuff @@@
To my knowledge, C is still taking direct orders on EM.
The process for XMR usage on WHM is essentially the same as with BTC. The first trick is finding an exchange that actually allows XMR trades. The best one in my region is probably Binance. The second trick is finding a good software wallet for XMR. Based on a quick google search, a decent, user-friendly option is MyMonero Wallet. Besides those two points the process for ordering on WHM should be 95% the same as outlined for EM previously.
THIS SERIOUSLY NEEDS TO BE UPDATED!

The instructive post on the first page has stated you must search for empire on the Tor browser. If you do this instead of going through the correct dark.fail link YOU WILL CLICK ON A PHISHING LINK AND YOUR MONEY WILL BE STOLEN.

Second thing. They have stated the importance of using a VPN.
DO NOT USE A VPN
If you do this, everything you do on the Tor browser, looking at illegal things, buying them, putting in your personal information will be routed through the VPN you have set up. THEY WILL SEE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE.
That doesn't sound very anonymous and secure, does it?

Someone please have this updated. The post in the first page will be seen by alot of people searching this method and has instructed people to be setup to fail.
I believe you are overreacting quite a bit here, but overall I agree with your advice.

First, looking up the Empire Market URL on duckduckgo does indeed work 99% of the time, but if you click on a shady link it is possible to get a phishing site. At the time of writing the guide, I was not as familiar with dark.fail or onion.live (as I learned this process many years ago before their existence). But indeed, sites like onion.live are much more reliable and I would suggest using them instead. However, as another user pointed out, there is evidence suggesting that dark.fail has been compromised, so I would absolutely suggest going with onion.live over dark.fail for EM or WHM links.

Second, I originally did not suggest using a VPN and only added it at the suggestion of another user (chris8000). However, I retracted this suggestion only a couple posts later based on the exact same information, which I now agree with, that VPN providers can potentially keep secret logs which adds another layer of vulnerability beyond using Tor alone. If someone were to read just the first several pages of this thread, this should become immediately apparent to them. I would not at all agree that all of this essentially "sets someone up to fail."

So to recap for followers of this thread, I endorse:
1) Using onion.live to access the links for EM or WHM
2) Using Tor WITHOUT a VPN to eliminate security vulnerabilities
 
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shiv4674

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i think the main reason people are using markets and not his direct site is the escrow, so you don't have to release payment until you have it in your hands. em and whm are good, but they can steal your money too. So you either put your trust in c, or the markets. lol
Oh I gave it as go and it seems like my order has been processed - fingers crossed
 
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