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Jackd

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Dec 24, 2018
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No argument here, I was just curious cause I recently purchased and waiting on my shipment. Thanks for sharing your experience thus far. @Arak
 
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onegoodreason

"She went down swinging" Tom Petty
Dec 28, 2018
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Between the high price both financially and emotionally (hoping, waiting for package to show), I think I'm going to use a different method after all. Far too much at risk here, unfortunately. I really would prefer N, but A doesn't seem to be quite as reliable as we would like. He comes through for some, but not all. It's just too weird. And since I'm going a different way now, I can go sooner as it won't be as expensive.

Started having dreams about all of this. Wasn't such a good one, though. I had brought Shane to wherever he was going, but I was delayed ctb for a few days and couldn't get back to him in spirit. I was very upset about it. I think I've had a few others but can't remember them well. Anyone else having dreams about ctb yet? Probably a subject for another thread, will either find one or start one. Peace.
 
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onegoodreason

"She went down swinging" Tom Petty
Dec 28, 2018
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Now here's some info that could be helpful, I hope!? (roll eyes)
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An excerpt from the site:
https://www.logisticsplus.net/shipping-between-us-mexico/

Here's what you need to know when you're shipping from Mexico to the U.S:

  • A Mexican carrier transports its cargo to the border city.
  • A Mexican customs agent formally presents the entry of the Mexican export customs on behalf of the Mexican sender so that the goods can legally leave the country.
  • A licensed U.S. customs agent then files the U.S. customs clearance so that the shipment can enter the U.S. on behalf of the U.S. importer of record (the consignee).
  • A third party transportation company will ship your shipment across the border, through the U.S. Customs, and deliver the shipment to the selected U.S. carrier's premises.
  • The U.S. carrier transports the freight to the final destination.
Here are the basic import and export documents you'll need:

  • Import /export form
  • Commercial invoice
  • Bill of lading
  • NAFTA Certificate of Origin (only if goods qualify for NAFTA)
Every country has its own regulations and shipping requirements so it's important to be aware of this information before shipping to any country. Contact our team of cross-border experts here at Logistics Plus to learn more about shipping between the U.S and Mexico.
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Whether A does it this way or not is anyone's guess. This just shows what the usual method of shipping from Mexico is. Not sure if this is just courier service or Mexican postal service as well. If this is what happens, it's no frelling wonder it takes so long, sometimes. I would imagine overseas would be even worse. Another site I went to said that even the Mexicans don't use their own postal service to ship stuff as it's so unreliable, certainly nothing of value.

My situation has changed a little in the last 24 hours and I have the means now, but I'm still undecided and confused as to what to do. I so want the relative ease and peacefulness of death by N, but it's so much money to risk. I just don't know. Peace, all.
 
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Arak

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Sep 21, 2018
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@onegoodreason ,

Thank you but I know that has absolutely nothing to do with A's issues. I don't think it's wise to post details about his shipping process that I happen to know or can deduce. Let's say that A got that part covered.
 
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Arak

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Sep 21, 2018
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@Sharethepain ,

There is this https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/list-of-resources.3/ that lists several versions of the PPEH. But I'm not sure about which one is correct !
I recall that not all versions of the PPEH share the same email addresses for A. I'm not sure if it's appropriate to post it, it used to be 'not done' but after recent events ... And if the PPEH is pinned like that ... Note: it looked like I got some unwanted software on my computer when I tried to download something so I wouldn't even recommend that ...

Verify with someone else ?
 
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WayOut

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Oct 26, 2018
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I've been on the Exit forum for years. I have a reasonable idea of what's what.

With regard to A, if you are in the US or the UK, you will get your order. Statistically, there have been 2 high profile interceptions in the past 8 years. Thousands, yes, thousands, in this time have received their orders. A sends the product. Customs basically don't give a shit.

In NZ, France and a handful of other countries, chances are, anecdotally, 90% that you will get your order. A advises fairly accurately and transparently.

Sadly, in Aus, thanks to PN being particularly disliked in his own country and the authorities chasing him, you have only a 75% chance of your order making it through customs.

A is always very direct about the chances of orders arriving. I believe there was a couple of years when he refused to take orders from Aussies, because they didn't get through. Yep. He would not accept money. He rejected orders that he didn't feel had a good chance of getting through.

We heard recently a couple of people on this forum calling A a scammer, because they didn't get their orders. Seriously? Based on reliable feedback and data over the past 8 - 10 years, I'm more inclined to continue to believe A is genuine than these two people coming from nowhere and rumor mongering about A being a "partial scammer". I mean, ffs. Who are these people?

I am sure that A may well have made an error with an order or two. He's the only supplier, and he is filling 30 orders a week. Even with an assistant, seriously, do people think errors never happen?

On the other issue, I personally do not begrudge him the profit he makes. It's not even close to what other drug dealers/cartels make. He's tiny, by comparison, and he's supplying a product genuinely needed. If he gets caught, his life is over. It's Mexico, people. That's his risk, as per the risk reward scale. To the people who begrudge him the fees he charges, well, would you prefer someone supplies a product at a reasonable 20% mark-up, given that if he gets caught he will end up dead, or in a Mexican jail for life, wishing he was dead? Come on. Risk - reward. It's not rocket science.

A is genuine. Patrick, Domingo, T, and so on and so on, are not. They're scammers.

As far as those people who are suddenly posting about A being a scammer, well, it's great that there are at least a few members here who step up and call these guys out.
 
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Not that I have any interest in purchasing from A
But as others have posted > there is far to much info being made public about countries / success rate etc.
It's not in the best interests of anyone.

I can understand debate and frustration as it's heartbreaking to not receive.But sadly that's the risk we all take when ordering. Someone has to be among that % that loses. And I feel sorry for them.

I'll shut up now :-) best wishes to all .....
 
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Arak

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Sep 21, 2018
1,176
@WayOut ,

Just a quick reaction. I have never been on the Exit forums. I also note that it is conceivable things have changed since the 'surgery'. We do not know what happened. My experience with A consists of a number of emails. I'm not going get into those details again. I also trust the experience of the OP in the thread that has now been closed.

My comment on the partial scammer referred to the fact that some people had not received the A, and for that in the case of at least two people it originally had not even been sent ! A pretty much admitted as much in an email. Naturally, for me the question arose: has he ever refused an order or money because he did not have enough stock ? Or does he have an unlimited stock ? I have learned some things about A that I am not going to post here. IF demand exceeds supply and IF he accepts any order it seems only logical to conclude some people will pay without receiving the N. That's pretty much what I meant. We were simply asking if there were some people 'in the shadows' on this forum who never received but had kept quiet. I believed such reports would be useful. The thread has been closed, and up to a point we may never know. To emphasize: the discussion was not about packages being seized by customs, which is to be expected.

Shipping to the USA seems to be relatively reliable. Based on what I know, that's not suprising.

Demand must be great if he is no longer only getting customers from the Exit forums.

That's pretty much what I have to say.
 
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Goldenwolf

Goldenwolf

Age 24 My time has come. I'm going to ctb with N
Dec 6, 2018
44
Hello, I'm just wondering, could someone post the label of the packaging so I and others could see what the label looks like? Someone asked earlier in this thread but not sure if it was allowed or not. If not then could someone PM it to me please if you have received your N. It's just because I don't want anyone at my house to think that me ordering this is odd or suspicious.
 
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Winona

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Sep 26, 2018
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Guys, do you think, using tracking websites is safe? If the authorities/police/customs (?) had sized the package, may they try to track who is keeping an eye to the intercepted package?
 
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ctrl_alt_delete

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Nov 14, 2018
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Between the high price both financially and emotionally (hoping, waiting for package to show), I think I'm going to use a different method after all. Far too much at risk here, unfortunately. I really would prefer N, but A doesn't seem to be quite as reliable as we would like. He comes through for some, but not all. It's just too weird. And since I'm going a different way now, I can go sooner as it won't be as expensive.

Started having dreams about all of this. Wasn't such a good one, though. I had brought Shane to wherever he was going, but I was delayed ctb for a few days and couldn't get back to him in spirit. I was very upset about it. I think I've had a few others but can't remember them well. Anyone else having dreams about ctb yet? Probably a subject for another thread, will either find one or start one. Peace.

I hope you do find a peaceful method. I think @WayOut 's analysis is reliable. I've been having ctb dreams since, oh, a very, very, long time now. I understand about the n-m-a. I'm only doing it because, erm, mess. The alternative is just not eating for a couple of days. You say the sweetest things, and I love the insightful intelligence tempered with a gentle compassion that illuminates your posts. Peace and kindness to you Sweetlove x, and to all who would wish peace and kindness upon themselves and others xxx
 
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OnlyMercy

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Oct 23, 2018
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Guys, do you think, using tracking websites is safe? If the authorities/police/customs (?) had sized the package, may they try to track who is keeping an eye to the intercepted package?

It is generally recommended to use a VPN when tracking parcels online. Doing so would make it virtually impossible to correlate the online tracking "queries" for a particular parcel to your IP's physical location.

Also, it's best to use centralised tracking sites like 17track for enhanced security. If one is really paranoid only use Tor over and above everything else.
 
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johnny

johnny

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Dec 5, 2018
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Do you guys think 1 night in a hotel would be sufficient? Any why is it necessary to be in a nicer hotel instead of a cheap motel with less sound barriers? Is it because fear of vomiting violently and someone hearing you and calling the desk on you?

My main concern for 1 night in a hotel is what would happen if I gagged/vomited and just passed out for a while and was found unconscious but not dead?
 
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J.E. Morrow

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Jan 8, 2019
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Do you guys think 1 night in a hotel would be sufficient? Any why is it necessary to be in a nicer hotel instead of a cheap motel with less sound barriers? Is it because fear of vomiting violently and someone hearing you and calling the desk on you?

My main concern for 1 night in a hotel is what would happen if I gagged/vomited and just passed out for a while and was found unconscious but not dead?

I think one night would be ok but it depends on your method. I wouldn't book more than two nights, I'd not like my corpse to be found in an advanced state of decomposition.
 
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Sinbad

Sinbad

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Nov 27, 2018
542
I got my N 10 days ago.. It took only 7 days to arrive. A is legit. I sent a picture of my N to trusted SS users. I won't share more info. Just know he is real and not a scammer.
 
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Chinaski

Chinaski

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Sep 1, 2018
3,215
I got my N 10 days ago.. It took only 7 days to arrive. A is legit. I sent a picture of my N to trusted SS users. I won't share more info. Just know he is real and not a scammer.

Thanks for that very timely info (or contribution to a sophisticated shilling operation, depending on your view). Welcome back btw.
 
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JustAboutDone

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Jan 1, 2019
3,532
I have received a photograph from Sinbad, I can confirm it is from him and is of his sealed bottles of N as he says.
 
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ctoan

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Sep 30, 2018
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anyone experience with austria or germany?

customs from both countries are pretty shit in my experience and basically caught every medication/drugs ive ever ordered from india..
 
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Chinaski

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Sep 1, 2018
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No clue. There was that recent story of the couple that used nitrogen to ctb in a NYC hotel room together, which got a lot of coverage. But besides that I haven't seen any news stories about hotel suicides. And I would imagine that hotels would be a fairly common place that people would ctb. Maybe this story got a lot of coverage since it was two people, rather than just one person.

News reporting in general can be random and selective. Apart from big stories, they basically report on whatever they feel like, whatever they think will get higher viewing rates. Over 100 americans ctb every day and the vast majority of those will not be in the news, although statistically I don't know how many people do it in a hotel.

Mate, you're blitzing the N from A megathread with some inane stuff about hotels, honestly it shouldn't matter whether you do it in a 5 star hotel or a dosshouse, if you put the DND sign up, and drink it 12 hours before checkout time, you're clear.

Re posture, I've seen two dignitas videos, one seated, one laid down. I read somewhere that respiratory failure, and therefore death, is quicker if you're more upright but not significantly enough to make it crucial, tbh if you're going to drink 15g of barbiturates it probably doesn't matter if you're sat on the shitter, laid in a bubble bath, whatever. 'Take meto, drink N, eat chocolate, sleep' is pretty much all the info and evidence states is necessary, everything else is frills.
 
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Moony21

Moony21

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Nov 23, 2018
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anyone experience with austria or germany?

customs from both countries are pretty shit in my experience and basically caught every medication/drugs ive ever ordered from india..

I know from somebody from Germany who succsesfully ordered N. He passed away.

Myself, I am from CH and had no problem with the custom and I got my N last june.
 
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Chinaski

Chinaski

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Sorry I don't mean to cause trouble. I am just very anxious and if I don't have step by step instructions then i panic and question whether I will mess up. I just saw someone talk about how cheaper hotels are less sound proof which could be risky(not sure why that makes it more risky?)

And yea I guess leaning back makes more sense, harder to vomit that way compared to laying down. So you think a bite of chocolate is better than a shot of alcohol?

Sorry if l came across as overly abrasive, it's just that there is a lot of discussion about N from A going on elsewhere which is quite scam-friendly and this thread, containing the actually legit info, is getting crowded out, but that's ultimately not my call.

Chocolate is very necessary, alcohol is encouraged in the pph but not used at Dignitas, make your own call on that. There have been a fair few threads on it on here, if you started your own it'd probably be more visible than individual questions stashed away here and l reckon you'd get plenty of helpful answers.
 
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Goldenwolf

Goldenwolf

Age 24 My time has come. I'm going to ctb with N
Dec 6, 2018
44
Mate, you're blitzing the N from A megathread with some inane stuff about hotels, honestly it shouldn't matter whether you do it in a 5 star hotel or a dosshouse, if you put the DND sign up, and drink it 12 hours before checkout time, you're clear.

Re posture, I've seen two dignitas videos, one seated, one laid down. I read somewhere that respiratory failure, and therefore death, is quicker if you're more upright but not significantly enough to make it crucial, tbh if you're going to drink 15g of barbiturates it probably doesn't matter if you're sat on the shitter, laid in a bubble bath, whatever. 'Take meto, drink N, eat chocolate, sleep' is pretty much all the info and evidence states is necessary, everything else is frills.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, what's meto?
 
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locusdelicti

locusdelicti

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Jan 6, 2019
74
Allegedly mine shipped January 20th. Will update when (if) I receive it. I live on the East Coast of the US for reference. Good communication (maybe 7 emails back and forth). That's all I can report for now.

Edit: As for the antiemetic, I'm rather surprised at how difficult it is for people to get a hold of what they need. I told my doctor I have relatives who drag me on family sailing trips, and Dramamine, etc. have never worked. He said he'd hook me up with Zofran no problem. Seems like an easy script to memorize and dictate to a health care provider.
 
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Jackd

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Dec 24, 2018
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@locusdelicti ,

Are you sure the 20th cause, he states shipments only on Saturdays? The 20th was Sunday.
 
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Mud.

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Oct 27, 2018
403
Edit: As for the antiemetic, I'm rather surprised at how difficult it is for people to get a hold of what they need. I told my doctor I have relatives who drag me on family sailing trips, and Dramamine, etc. have never worked. He said he'd hook me up with Zofran no problem. Seems like an easy script to memorize and dictate to a health care provider.

Probably because there are many people here that have psychological problems and have been 'marked' as being suicidal. No doctor is just going to write out a recipe for a strong antiemetic to a person he considers suicidal.
 
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ctbiit

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Jan 14, 2019
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Is Dramamine enough?

I read that A doesn't ship antiem.
 
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therhydler

therhydler

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Dec 7, 2018
1,196
Is Dramamine enough?

I read that A doesn't ship antiem.

Its listed as an alternative in the PPEH but it's better to be on the safe side IMO. Meto is much better. You can buy Primperan on ebay
 
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Arak

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Sep 21, 2018
1,176
Has the N as obtained from A been tested in the past few months ? Not that I really doubt the product is genuine, just asking.
 
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pleasethistime

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https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/poll-about-success-of-n-orders-from-a.10953/
 
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