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dolphin

aquatic thing
Feb 7, 2019
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@dolphin, PPH March 2019 says "the liquid [N] in the glass can be drunk quickly in 2 or 3 swallows, and then followed by some alcohol, usually spirits or liqueur. Although not essential, alcohol is recommended as it alleviates the bitter Nembutal after-taste, and will speed the drug's action".
Thanks, I have seen that - just wasn't sure whether or not to use something flavoured.
 
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Vienrose

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Jun 21, 2019
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Hello,

I've been a lurker and only registered today and was looking at all the different threads that talk about getting N from A.
It's hard to look at all the seperate threads and it takes a lot of time and searching.
It would maybe be useful to have a megathread where everyone can share their experience in contacting A and how it went, if you did order or did not order, and how long until you received it, did not receive anything, which part of the world you reside in, NA or western EU, etc.
I personally have not ordered yet because I read quite some threads where they did not get anything, while I see others did receive N from A.
So wanted to make this thread so we can all get a feel for if it's worth it to buy from A.
Any reviews/experiences are welcome.

Thank you.
I... don't understand. Anybody can explain me?
 
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jake3d

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May 29, 2019
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I was reading a pdf about N, and it seems vodka gets rid of the taste the best. There was one other particular alcohol beverage that did it too. It was hard liquor, but I forgot the name! Ugh.

Jack Daniel's? :sunglasses:

@Vienrose, "N" refers to the veterinary drug Nembutal which is used for animal euthanasia and which can be used for human euthanasia as well... "A" is a vet from Mexico which sells this substance discreetly across the world. The contact information for "A" is available in the "Peaceful Pill eHandbook" (PPeH), the March 2019 edition can be found with a search on this forum.
 
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Theon

Theon

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Jun 20, 2019
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I can't really believe that in the whole world there is only one supplier of nembutal. That's crazy.
I know which makes me skeptical I'll ever get it when I order (still trying to sort out bitcoin of it). I know people here have gotten it but how many haven't? I don't know how many people in the world are looking for N but I imagine it's considerably more than one person can handle. By the way, anyone know how long it usually takes A to respond to emails?
 
cornflowerblue

cornflowerblue

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Feb 18, 2019
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I know which makes me skeptical I'll ever get it when I order (still trying to sort out bitcoin of it). I know people here have gotten it but how many haven't? I don't know how many people in the world are looking for N but I imagine it's considerably more than one person can handle. By the way, anyone know how long it usually takes A to respond to emails?
There was a thread a while ago that was specifically about who did and didn't need get it, and how long shipping took. But then it got overtaken with drama accusing people of lying, promoting scammer alternatives, etc.

Nothing you read on a forum will be guaranteed accurate. Some people are lying for malicious reasons such as to promote scammers, some are sharing false info that they truly believe is accurate, some are exaggerating or using this forum as a sort of fictional role-play, some just want to fuck with people, and of course some are honest and want to help.

There are always risks buying N: you can be ripped off, your package can get lost, it can get stopped by customs, it could all turn out to have been a "honeypot" that gets you arrested.

This is a difficult situation for everyone here. It absolutely is not an easy choice or one that should be made impulsively or purely emotionally. You need to be honest with yourself about the risks and plan ahead of time what you'd do if any of the negative outcomes come true. For many people, the risks aren't worth it and they'll end up choosing to stay alive, perhaps in the form of constant suffering, or perhaps this will be what turns their life around. It's a very personal decision and there's no way to see your own future with certainty.

Unfortunately the only risk-free way to access N is by spending the 10k euro to do the process formally in Europe, assuming you'd even be approved, which most of us wouldn't be. If you have the funds and the appropriate medical records, doing all of this legally with physician oversight is obviously preferable.
 
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Jun 20, 2019
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There was a thread a while ago that was specifically about who did and didn't need get it, and how long shipping took. But then it got overtaken with drama accusing people of lying, promoting scammer alternatives, etc.

Nothing you read on a forum will be guaranteed accurate. Some people are lying for malicious reasons such as to promote scammers, some are sharing false info that they truly believe is accurate, some are exaggerating or using this forum as a sort of fictional role-play, some just want to fuck with people, and of course some are honest and want to help.

There are always risks buying N: you can be ripped off, your package can get lost, it can get stopped by customs, it could all turn out to have been a "honeypot" that gets you arrested.

This is a difficult situation for everyone here. It absolutely is not an easy choice or one that should be made impulsively or purely emotionally. You need to be honest with yourself about the risks and plan ahead of time what you'd do if any of the negative outcomes come true. For many people, the risks aren't worth it and they'll end up choosing to stay alive, perhaps in the form of constant suffering, or perhaps this will be what turns their life around. It's a very personal decision and there's no way to see your own future with certainty.

Unfortunately the only risk-free way to access N is by spending the 10k euro to do the process formally in Europe, assuming you'd even be approved, which most of us wouldn't be. If you have the funds and the appropriate medical records, doing all of this legally with physician oversight is obviously preferable.
Very well said. I guess my all around hopelessness is extending to this.
 
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cornflowerblue

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Feb 18, 2019
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Very well said. I guess my all around hopelessness is extending to this.
I am not pro-life by any means so don't take this the wrong way, but perhaps there's something more to that hesitation. I've had times in my life of feeling very suicidal but I would keep looking for excuses about why every method won't work, and in those times I was able to eventually crawl out of the suicidality for some time. Sometimes hopefulness disguises itself as hopelessness. Of course, sometimes it doesn't.
 
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I am not pro-life by any means so don't take this the wrong way, but perhaps there's something more to that hesitation. I've had times in my life of feeling very suicidal but I would keep looking for excuses about why every method won't work, and in those times I was able to eventually crawl out of the suicidality for some time. Sometimes hopefulness disguises itself as hopelessness. Of course, sometimes it doesn't.
Oh I wish that was the case with me. While I'd much prefer to live, I can't continue living this way. It's been over a year since one meth binge too many did something to my brain and I've lost all ability to feel pleasure as well as extreme anxiety...at near panic levels, from the moment I open my eyes (after the 2 or 3 hours of broken sleep, if I sleep) to the moment I lay down. My personality is gone. My life is falling apart. And in about five weeks time I'm looking at things taking a catastrophic turn. I guess there is impatience as I want to make sure things are sorted out before that point.
 
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Oh I wish that was the case with me. While I'd much prefer to live, I can't continue living this way. It's been over a year since one meth binge too many did something to my brain and I've lost all ability to feel pleasure as well as extreme anxiety...at near panic levels, from the moment I open my eyes (after the 2 or 3 hours of broken sleep, if I sleep) to the moment I lay down. My personality is gone. My life is falling apart. And in about five weeks time I'm looking at things taking a catastrophic turn. I guess there is impatience as I want to make sure things are sorted out before that point.
Understandable. I know that in some cases the brain eventually recovers, but I'm not well-versed enough to say whether that would apply to your case, how long it takes, and how complete the recovery is. And ultimately, nobody else can decide for you whether waiting to find out is worth it. I hope you find a way to make things "ok", whatever that means for you. Sucks how complicated all of this is.
 
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czarodziej

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when setting up bitpanda for bitcoin they make you go through a video chat call to identify you and your id. i just went through that, suffice to say it wasnt at all comfortable.
 
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Lara Francis

Lara Francis

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Jun 30, 2018
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Is the n that a sells intended for injection but we just drink it.
I presume this is the case !
 
JJ-NOHOPE

JJ-NOHOPE

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Nov 26, 2018
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Is the n that a sells intended for injection but we just drink it.
I presume this is the case !
That true. It's for injection which is why it tastes so horrific.

And for the others that worry so much about getting it, if you read this post you'll see tons of people who have gotten it and only a handful who have not. A is reliable.
 
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Sunshine

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Why are you guys not injecting N? Drug users inject it al lthe time, no? And if N tastes so incredibly disgusting then that seems like a good idea.

I seriously don't understand how it's humanly possible that some are able to drink 2-3 bottles of Nembutal without gagging or losing their mind in a few minutes if it tastes even worse than pure alcohol.
 
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fisil

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Why are you guys not injecting N? Drug users inject it al lthe time, no? And if N tastes so incredibly disgusting then that seems like a good idea.
It's 200ml i am not sure about this. A recommend to drink it.
 
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It's 200ml i am not sure about this. A recommend to drink it.

I can't even drink a shot of vodka without gagging and feeling horrible. How am I supposed to drink like 400 or 600 ml of even worse stuff at once.

Fuck. :(
 
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I guess the best way would be to hook yourself up to an iv and put it in a drip bag setting the dial on full but we dont have that priledge.
 
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fisil

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I can't even drink a shot of vodka without gagging and feeling horrible. How am I supposed to drink like 400 or 600 ml of even worse stuff at once.

Fuck. :(
400ml is 4 bottles. I don't know your weight, but there is a high possibility that you are dying if you are not able to drink all and there is sn alternative with less liquid
I also never heared someone bought 6 bottles then you weight like 500kg?
 
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Sunshine

Sunshine

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Jan 11, 2019
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400ml is 4 bottles. I don't know your weight, but there is a high possibility that you are dying if you are not able to drink all and there is sn alternative with less liquid
I also never heared someone bought 6 bottles then you weight like 500kg?

I thought 1 bottle is 200 ml and you need 2 bottles at least, or 3 if you are over 90kg. I was wrong?
 
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LifeIsNotFun

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Jun 1, 2019
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I thought 1 bottle is 200 ml and you need 2 bottles at least, or 3 if you are over 90kg. I was wrong?
2N:60kg-80kg 3N: 90kg-120kg 1N is good for 30kg-40kg range.

1N is 100mL containing 6g of lethal drug. ~60mg/mL

400ml is 4 bottles. I don't know your weight, but there is a high possibility that you are dying if you are not able to drink all and there is sn alternative with less liquid
I also never heared someone bought 6 bottles then you weight like 500kg?

I don't see the big deal of drinking it, and why people make a big uproar about it. You just plug your damn nose and gulp it. lol Then take a shot of vodka after to get rid of the taste.
 
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mathieu

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Jun 5, 2019
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Why are you guys not injecting N? Drug users inject it al lthe time, no? And if N tastes so incredibly disgusting then that seems like a good idea.

I seriously don't understand how it's humanly possible that some are able to drink 2-3 bottles of Nembutal without gagging or losing their mind in a few minutes if it tastes even worse than pure alcohol.
N acts as a general aneasthetic. I think if you injected IV you would be uncounsious before you could inject the full 100-300ml. If you've ever gone under when they've made you count down from 10 you know how quick a general aneasthetic can knock you out. I think drinking say 2 bottles is fairly possible. You just knock it back fast like a shot of tequila. After all, 200ml is less than one metric cup.
 
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JordT

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Is A still reliable? i'm finally ready i think, also does anyone have the PPH latest edition please? i have one from late 2018. If you have it in split chapters that'd even better. Send me a PM. Thanks.
 
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kuddelmuddel23

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Jun 13, 2019
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Perhaps it will help if I quote the chapter from the PPeH:

A Lethal Dose of Nembutal

While there are several florid accounts of failure by people taking a full 100ml bottle of veterinary Nembutal, close scrutiny shows a much more complex situation. Exit has examined the details and medical records of several such cases.

In the vast majority of cases, one bottle (100ml @ 60 mg/ ml) of veterinary Nembutal will always be satisfactory and lead to a peaceful death, usually in 1 - 2 hours. However, there is a small group (estimated at <1%) who may exhibit a prolonged comatose phase before death (sometimes up to 24 hours). Outright 'failures' remain extremely rare. Indeed, all of the reported failures investigated by Exit were associated with early discovery and subsequent medical intervention. This emphasizes the need for a careful selection of the place of death.

In some of the analyzed cases, the long comatose phase was associated with prolonged use of anti-psychotic medication or chronic heavy alcohol use, prior to taking the barbiturate. It is presumed the induction of liver enzymes by these drugs causes increased degradation of the Nembutal, lowering the concentration in the brain. In these situations, increasing the quantity of drug taken (eg. to 2 bottles, 12gm) may not necessarily hasten the death.

Exit has examined the use of several potentiating drugs which may be dissolved into the liquid Nembutal, removing any possibility of extended coma. The most useful, Dilantin (phenytoin sodium) is duscussed in this Chapter.

So one bottle is enough to cause a peaceful death. Of course only if you are not found too early and get medical help. So it is more important to find a good place where you can be undisturbed for at least 24 hours than to increase the dose.
 
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TimeToDie

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So it is more important to find a good place where you can be undisturbed for at least 24 hours than to increase the dose.
How many people have 24 hours of isolation? With family, friends, coworkers, neighbors....
 
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LifeIsNotFun

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How many people have 24 hours of isolation? With family, friends, coworkers, neighbors....
1N is good for someone weighing between 30kg-40kg. That is why A suggested 2N is good for 60-80kg, and you will die pretty quick. If you take a shot of vodka after ingesting 2N, it will hasten the effect exponentially. That's why its recommended you do it in the evening prior to bed time, so by the time morning comes you will be dead. The 24 hour cases were the ones who were on anti-psychotics and were alcoholics prior to N's ingestion, and took a low dose for their weight. In PPH it states less than 1% had this issue, but the rest died no problem whatsoever. If you are not on any drugs that effects N, you need to detox before taking N. Otherwise your money will go to waste, and the potential of being found and being rushed to the hospital. Then you will most likely be put in a psych ward. Weight range is very important for the proper dosage, but if you take the proper procedures and read the PPH carefully and do everything it says, you will be dead in 1-2 hours. 12 hours minimum is for people who may have N tolerance or any other factors thats not allowing N to work as properly as it should.
 
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kuddelmuddel23

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Jun 13, 2019
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How many people have 24 hours of isolation? With family, friends, coworkers, neighbors....
I'd say that's the minimum time to go 99% sure not to be found too soon. Even if N can work in a few minutes, it might be advisable to plan the time generously. Of course, not everyone has the opportunity to do so due to life circumstances. But if someone has only one night long time, then 12 hours are good enough. However, the chance of being found and rescued too early naturally increases.

1N is good for someone weighing between 30kg-40kg. That is why A suggested 2N is good for 60-80kg, and you will die pretty quick. Weight range is very important for the proper dosage, but if you take the proper procedures and read the PPH carefully and do everything it says, you will be dead in 1-2 hours.
Would you mind sharing your source on weight information? I haven't been able to find anything yet.
 
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