Help Making noise while SN takes effect?

[HumanoidMonster]

I live with my parents, so I was wondering if SN can cause me to make loud noises like constant coughing or anything of the same nature. Asking this because my parents are very light sleepers and, in the past, have shown the tendency to just wake up to check on me if they hear me loudly coughing at night, therefore I would like to know if there's a chance SN consumption might cause me to accidentally get found by my parents this way. I also wanted to know if a 9-12 hour time frame is enough, since the only chance to have this amount of undisturbed time is if I begin the process at roughly 4 AM and "sleep" until midday-1 PM.

 

[Sergeant45]

I definitely know one might make noise while gagging or throwing up a little, if you generally are a loud ''throw-uper'' that might cause issues before anything else you might make noise with.

 

[Alexandra0]

Yes, you may start gagging. And theoretically your parents may hear you. So it's best to do this when no one is home. Death from SN can occur in 40 minutes to 4 hours

 

[HumanoidMonster]

gagging even if I have taken all necessary precautions? Isn't throwing up just the consequence of failing to keep the SN in the body for enough time?

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Yeah, it's been reported that can happen.

 

[HumanoidMonster]

Ah, damn it. Guess the time frame shrinks to 8:30 AM - 1 PM. *Should* be manageable, if I wake up early enough to wait 'til everyone leaves the house and act fast enough. Thank you all.

 

[Alexandra0]

gagging even if I have taken all necessary precautions? Isn't throwing up just the consequence of failing to keep the SN in the body for enough time?

The SN Bible says that you can vomit even if you take Metoclopramide. You can either vomit SN or stomach acid

 

[HumanoidMonster]

The SN Bible says that you can vomit even if you take Metoclopramide. You can either vomit SN or stomach acid

No yeah I know that. My question was more of a "do you end up gagging even on a "successful attempt" where you don't outright vomit stomach acid/everything?"

 

[Polyxo]

As SN takes effect, agonal respiration will kick in. It will sound like gasping/snoring/snorting. Long pauses between struggling, noisy "breaths" while the person who ingested the SN is passed out.

 

[HumanoidMonster]

Sounds messy. I will resort to acting upon the plan at a time where no one is home.

 

[Romanticize]

yes SN is somewhat loud and long. You will vomit 99% of the time, you can knock things off when you are weak, also agonal breathing which is like snoring.
You need to be alone for AT LEAST 3 hours. Trust me, better plan it well and finish successfully.

 

[HumanoidMonster]

yes SN is somewhat loud and long. You will vomit 99% of the time, you can knock things off when you are weak, also agonal breathing which is like snoring.
You need to be alone for AT LEAST 3 hours. Trust me, better plan it well and finish successfully.

Could giving myself the time frame of 8:30 AM - 1:00 PM work? That's the longest I can get to be home alone due to everyone else working during that time frame

 

[Romanticize]

8;30 to 13;00 is 4,5 hours. More than enough. But I advice you to have everything ready to not lose any time. So you have to drink your SN latest at 9;00 [if it would be past 9 I would cancel the attempt and postpone].
Remember about fasting and Meto, benzos are very usefull as well.

 

[HumanoidMonster]

8;30 to 13;00 is 4,5 hours. More than enough. But I advice you to have everything ready to not lose any time. So you have to drink your SN latest at 9;00 [if it would be past 9 I would cancel the attempt and postpone].
Remember about fasting and Meto, benzos are very usefull as well.

The fasting is no problem. I'm on a diet anyway so I can get away with maybe not skipping dinner but at least eating something very light. I don't have any anti-emetics, but I do have a box of 50mg Quetiapine, which, according to Vizzy's Guide, should work in a dosage of 400mg (which is 8 tabs). I can probably use my father's benzos. I will head to the bathroom at roughly 6:30 AM, take benzos and quetiapine at 7:45 AM, and take SN as soon as I hear the last person leave the house (roughly 8:30 AM). I might pull an all nighter, or just keep my phone under the pillow with the alarm at minimal volume in order to wake up at the right time without my parents hearing me. The night before I'll take all the necessary stuff to my bedroom (graded cup for water, tea spoon, hydroflask with water, and the tablet blisters).

 

[Romanticize]

quetiapine instead of meto/prokinetics for SN? lol it won't help at all, drop it completely.
The only viable replacement for Meto is Ondansetron, drop the Quet

Also benzos 2hours before SN is too early. Don't know which kind of benzos you have, but you should take them 45min-1h before SN.

rest is ok

 

[HumanoidMonster]

I mean it is said in the thread that meds like quetiapine do work as substitute in case we can't get our hands on the proper anti-emetics, so I guess I don't have much choice anyway

 

[Romanticize]

Quet has some anti-nausea effects through dopamine D2 receptor antagonism, but it's not a good choice for treating SN-induced vomiting. It's too weak and not designed as an antiemetic.

Doesn't matter if you take quet or not, it won't make almost any difference man. Antiemetics aren't a must, so you may as well drop the quet. Even after Meto, people vomit after SN, but meto has other important function - it's a prokinetic, means it makes you absorb SN quicker. Quet has no prokinetic effect at all.

 

[tulero]

Don't know which kind of benzos you have, but you should take them 45min-1h before SN.

where did you read this ? pph says right after drinking SN

besides, i took a 10mg diazepam a few days ago (my first time taking benzo in my life) and i started feeling things in 7-10 minutes

 

[HumanoidMonster]

Oh apparently the benzos are supposed to be taken shortly before the SN. I don't think I can test too much with xanax without my father noticing someone's taking the tablets, so I guess I could arbitrarily take the quetiapine at 7:45 AM and the xanax at about 8:15 AM?

 

[Romanticize]

where did you read this ? pph says right after drinking SN

besides, i took a 10mg diazepam a few days ago (my first time taking benzo in my life) and i started feeling things in 7-10 minutes

lol, NEVER after.

Most benzos will take 15-30min to take first effects, and after drinking SN you are conscious for 15-20min only.
Plus diazepam is one of the slowest acting benzos. you cannot feel CNS effects of any drug taken orally in 7minutes lol

BENZOS need to be taken 30-60min before SN, ALWAYS
Better take them 3 hours before SN than 1minute after, lol

 

[HumanoidMonster]

so take them at 8:00 AM? (in my case)

 

[tulero]

lol, NEVER after.

Most benzos will take 15-30min to take first effects, and after drinking SN you are conscious for 15-20min only.
Plus diazepam is one of the slowest acting benzos. you cannot feel CNS effects of any drug taken orally in 7minutes lol

BENZOS need to be taken 30-60min before SN, ALWAYS
Better take them 3 hours before SN than 1minute after, lol

but 30-60min before taking SN is too much time if you take a high dose of benzos, the risk of losing concious before taking SN is high

not saying you are wrong but i have pph here in front of me and it says
- take SN drink solution
- take oxazepam (+- propanolol) drink solution

I'm interpreting the benzos come after, and not before

 

[HumanoidMonster]

The Vizzy guide mentions taking the benzos almost with the SN:

 

[Romanticize]

I meant take benzos to lower anxiety, but if you want to take huge dose then it's a valid concern and 60min is for sure too early.

still, exactly with SN is too late, SN will take effect immediately, you will feel strong effects in 3-10min, before benzos will start working.
If we are talking about liquid solution and big benzo dose, I think 15-25min before SN is optimal.

If you take lower dose (and it's my personal preference, because bigger dose incapacitates us of taking 2nd cup) then 30-45min is better

So, on average 15-30mins works best if you are afraid of falling asleep (if dose is lower, go near 30, if dose is very big - choose rather 15) but if you take them at the same time as SN, they will be useless

 

[HumanoidMonster]

Due to the tight time frame I guess I'll just prepare one cup. If I end up vomiting all of it after say 30 minutes I definitely won't have the time to try again, and will have to resort to just cleaning myself up and planning a second attempt another time, unless by "2nd cup" you meant something else that wasn't the "second, backup cup of SN in case the first one is vomited"

 

[Romanticize]

yes, usually protocols advise to have second cup in case lots of vomiting occurs after first. like first 20g and second is 10-15g SN
one is usually enough, second is just to seal the deal. Many people try and have success with just one (even if they vomit, SN is absorbed quickly, and if you absorb even 5g of these 20, 5 is already lethal).

 

[HumanoidMonster]

I mean I would definitely do that if I had just a bit more time and wasn't so tight.