Discussion Lucy Gordan

[MeltingHeart]

Anyone have thoughts on the Lucy Gordan suicide-I know it is not as simply as external factors and no one really knows what personal demons someone-but nonetheless-it is still a little more surpirsing when someone in her circumstanes decides do it- she was young, incredibly beautiful, intelligent, successful in her chosen field-and was thriving, loads of money, a partner, healthy, apparently no prior given clinical mental health issues- I know she did have a friend that suicided prior to it-which must have been atleast a factor in it-but still-you cant help but think did someone like that just have some kind of mental faultering/ a kind of blip-where she just felt the classic 'what is the point in anything?-kind of existential crisis type think' yet even her note seemed so calm, focused and clear headed. But she still just got up one day and decided to hang herself- dunno why but that was another one that kind of blue my mind. I bet she didnt spend months trying it, researching, and weeks on a forum like me now! How does someone in her position apprently overcome SI so easily?! -sorry that was so long! I quite like writing and over thinking

 

[JimFord99]

I think that there is a trigger point, from where you cannot go back. When you reach that point you do it. End of. I also think that there's a limit a human being can take. Reach that limit and you do it. End of as well. Just my opinion though.

 

[Thanatos]

Goes to show that someone may appear "happy" and still ctb or have personal demons

 

[JimFord99]

Yeah, put a smiley mask on. But the demons will remain.

 

[MeltingHeart]

I think that there is a trigger point, from where you cannot go back. When you reach that point you do it. End of. I also think that there's a limit a human being can take. Reach that limit and you do it. End of as well. Just my opinion though.

but I think with some people experiences, things that have happened, life circumstances you can see or understand why they would reach that point eventually but with some people it is at least a little harder to understand how they got to that point...or atleast not as obvious if you know what I mean

 

[JimFord99]

Really, this all depends on circUmstances and not on speculations.

 

[MeltingHeart]

Goes to show that someone may appear "happy" and still ctb or have personal demons

yeah but with some people it is a little bit harder to understand or get why they reached that point-which lets face it is a very extreme point of despair to reach-like some peoples stories-you'll be like instantly-shit I can kinda see why they did it to be honest, but other people you'll like wow, really? if you know what I mean...I still think sometimes people out of the blue have a sudden wiring problem-like a fuse going-some synapses in their brain just mis-fire and they just spontaneously decide to do it-just a theory I have

Really, this all depends on circUmstances and not on speculations.

yeah thats true-I just enjoy speculating because I find it interesting and also I want to know how they over came the strong power of SI!

 

[JimFord99]

yeah but with some people it is a little bit harder to understand or get why they reached that point-which lets face it is a very extreme point of despair to reach-like some peoples stories-you'll be like instantly-shit I can kinda see why they did it to be honest, but other people you'll like wow, really? if you know what I mean...I still think sometimes people out of the blue have a sudden wiring problem-like a fuse going-some synapses in their brain just mis-fire and they just spontaneously decide to do it-just a theory I have

Yep, a sudden snap out of nowhere. Pushed over the trigger point.

 

[MeltingHeart]

Yep, a sudden snap out of nowhere. Pushed over the trigger point.

Yeah, exactly-I kind of want that to happen to me, so I can overcome by bloody strong SI - which is not because 'really I dont want to ctb' I do - but I cant combat by SI at the moment-and I have tried ALOT, various ways, eg; like standing on a train platform-i'm like how the hell on earth to people take that leap! its actually mind blowing when you think about it, anyway I dont want to do that method as have seen a few people mis-juding timing and ending alive in wayyyy worst state! grim

 

[JimFord99]

Grim, yes.

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

You usually find that a lot of people who ctb just do it. Seems out of nowhere to most people. But I know from personal experience people hide the hurt well and you'd never know. Nobody who knows me would expect it. I'm good at hiding my hurt and sometimes able to hide it from myself too. But like tonight the tears start from nowhere.
Nobody knows I have the ability to ctb when I choose. I have all I need to go. it's just a matter of when.

 

[MeltingHeart]

You usually find that a lot of people who ctb just do it. Seems out of nowhere to most people. But I know from personal experience people hide the hurt well and you'd never know. Nobody who knows me would expect it. I'm good at hiding my hurt and sometimes able to hide it from myself too. But like tonight the tears start from nowhere.
Nobody knows I have the ability to ctb when I choose. I have all I need to go. it's just a matter of when.

I had a v brief read about the SN method-it all sounds v compliated, and also dont think we can get hold of the stuff in the UK

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

I had a v brief read about the SN method-it all sounds v compliated, and also dont think we can get hold of the stuff in the UK

It's not that complicated really. 48hr regime meto and then antacid tablets before the SN. Should hopefully do the job. You can get SN in the UK quite easily.

 

[MeltingHeart]

It's not that complicated really. 48hr regime meto and then antacid tablets before the SN. Should hopefully do the job. You can get SN in the UK quite easily.

what the hell is regime meto?

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

what the hell is regime meto?

Taking anti sickness pills for 48 hours before taking the SN. Check out the SN Megathread

 

[Blackjack]

Who is Lucy Gordon?

 

[MeltingHeart]

Who is Lucy Gordon?

Young, beautiful actress- with a blossoming career
looking back in this old thread of mine - despite understanding everyone has unique demons -still can't help but compare! - she even had family that loved her - from quotes published post her ctb. I've got no job/ no career /not much skill set/ no money / virtually homeless / no partner/ no family (that care / love me) / pretty much destroyed even my ok looks/ body -due to depression behaviour- virtually nothing at all to live for & I STILL can't overcome SI in the same method this girl chose!!

 

[Winter_Flower]

Take Chester Bennington. Success, a family that he loved and loved him. Friends etc, one day touring, the next day dead xx One of the last pictures taken of him was him laughing with his family x Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there x

 

[MeltingHeart]

Take Chester Bennington. Success, a family that he loved and loved him. Friends etc, one day touring, the next day dead xx One of the last pictures taken of him was him laughing with his family x Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there x

But he had atleast some of the more obvious life factors that might contribute to suicide risk unlike the girl I mentioned, he'd had sexual abuse from a young age for many years, a disruptive family life, bullying at school, long term alochol & drug (many types) use from a young age , he was plagued with health problems and had incured many injuries on tour-causing pain.

The girl I mentioned had none of any of the factors that are often known to be contributing factors in a sucide- not even a history of depression.
As I said of course- no one will ever know/ or understand someones inner emotional world-but I mean some suicides are in my opnion atleast a little easier to understand & comprehend WHY they did happen. Even Kate Spade (known Bipolar) & Bourdain had history of mentioning suicide alongside & depression), where as some just seem that much more baffling-despite the understanding that we may never know a persons inner demons.

 

[TAW122]

I don't know all the circumstances behind Lucy Gordan's suicide, but one thing that I think people might not have considered is that sometimes people in high stress careers and/or reached a certain amount of fame (she's pretty famous), they oftenly have a lot of reputation and fame to upkeep. In doing so, it causes them a lot of stress to make sure that they are successful and continue to be successful in the future. Sometimes, when the stress becomes too much, they eventually snap and end up committing suicide and/or going to drugs and alcohol (which then could lead to suicide).

 

[MeltingHeart]

I don't know all the circumstances behind Lucy Gordan's suicide, but one thing that I think people might not have considered is that sometimes people in high stress careers and/or reached a certain amount of fame (she's pretty famous), they oftenly have a lot of reputation and fame to upkeep. In doing so, it causes them a lot of stress to make sure that they are successful and continue to be successful in the future. Sometimes, when the stress becomes too much, they eventually snap and end up committing suicide and/or going to drugs and alcohol (which then could lead to suicide).

SHe was pretty young and not TOO famous yet - but just enough that she was getting good projects - anyway don't know why I am so obsessed with her particular case - and of course all people that do it must have had their reasons which others will never fully understand

 

[Lethe]

I don't know all the circumstances behind Lucy Gordan's suicide, but one thing that I think people might not have considered is that sometimes people in high stress careers and/or reached a certain amount of fame (she's pretty famous), they oftenly have a lot of reputation and fame to upkeep. In doing so, it causes them a lot of stress to make sure that they are successful and continue to be successful in the future. Sometimes, when the stress becomes too much, they eventually snap and end up committing suicide and/or going to drugs and alcohol (which then could lead to suicide).

This reminds me of a quote I read once, "The rich and famous live hand-to-mouth too, just at a different level".

 

[MeltingHeart]

This reminds me of a quote I read once, "The rich and famous live hand-to-mouth too, just at a different level".

hmm i never heard that-intersting but noot sure i undertand it, i wonder who said that

 

[Mr. Incapable]

I know this is an old thread but I've recently been thinking about Lucy Gordon's suicide. I remember seeing it within the year prior to my first suicide attempt all the way back in 2010. It still seems so shocking how out of the blue it came with no immediate cause or reason to take such a drastic step.. and like some people said in this thread previously.. I, too, wonder how she was able to overcome SI even with such a bright, abundant life and future, yet I have absolutely nothing but still struggle to overcome SI to take my own life..

If I compare my life to someone like Lucy on paper, you would think for sure that I would be the one most likely to and with more reason to overcome SI to CTB.. but she did it

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

She had everything going for her… Seems pretty incomprehensible

 

[Mr. Incapable]

It wasn't even impulsive, seemingly.. as she sat and wrote two suicide notes the day before and CTB in the morning. She had several hours from when she started writing to reconsider or back out, but she went for it.. I just don't get how I'm still sitting here. I wish I could have one minute to ask these people how they were about to push through with it.. what were they thinking and feeling in those last moments.. how long did they have the noose around their neck before they decide to go for it.. and how many times did they try on that day before it was successful.. we'll never know

 

[Hurt]

I remember seeing her in Spiderman 3. Lost of her friend drove her to ctb apparently. Life sucks. No matter if you're famous or rich. Too many known actors ctbed.