"Love Yourself" said by suicidal person to another sucidal person I don't know if it's a joke, stupid statement or genuinely that person saying me!!!I

[3rdworldsadness]

I met this guy who is suicidal depressed too ( not in this site but in a social media)

So he told me why he is suicidal and depressed cause he has mental conditions, we are friends on that social media for a few months we don't even talk regularly but I talk about my plans and why I want to do....but that person just said, "Love yourself" i felt dumbfounded... like WHAT?!


I told him I love myself so much that I don't want to suffer longer and that person again said you should love yourself. I sympathise with him about his suffering and I told that a suicidal person needs empathy what a person truly thinks, feels and what miserable horrible condition that peeson is....not using a typical paraphrase again and again... like I was totally wrong about why a person genuinely be like this?!! Why suicidal person in other social media are not quite empathic about other suicidal person.... it's like "get help", love Yourself", "get therapy" are like their only words and this shit has zero sympathy about what other person is feeling or thinking or what conditions they have doesn't matter to them (???)
Not all of course but most....

Truly it was my mistake to get know more alike people in other sites.....

Just wanted to vent. This is the only place I can vent....

 

[ZwartHartje]

I'm not sure if I understood correctly, did he really say those other things, like "get help and "get therapy"? That would be messed up and has nothing to do with loving yourself.
Other than that, there's nothing wrong with loving yourself.
There are these two misconceptions about suicidal people: 1. that they're always and necessarily mentally ill, and 2. that they always and necessarily hate themselves.
Both of these *can* be true, but neither has to be necessarily true. Neither of them is true about myself, for example.

Sadly there are always people who think that the prescriptions of the majority, as well as of certain authorities, must be upheld. Such as that being suicidal is always "wrong" and always needs to be "cured." Just like there are also some gay people who believe that being gay is "bad" and "wrong" and needs to be "cured."
It's sad to be this indoctrinated, but yes, such people exist.
But you shouldn't let this discourage you from meeting other people, it doesn't mean that everyone is like that.

 

[3rdworldsadness]

I'm not sure if I understood correctly, did he really say those other things, like "get help and "get therapy"? That would be messed up and has nothing to do with loving yourself.
Other than that, there's nothing wrong with loving yourself.
There are these two misconceptions about suicidal people: 1. that they're always and necessarily mentally ill, and 2. that they always and necessarily hate themselves.
Both of these *can* be true, but neither has to be necessarily true. Neither of them is true about myself, for example.

Sadly there are always people who think that the prescriptions of the majority, as well as of certain authorities, must be upheld. Such as that being suicidal is always "wrong" and always needs to be "cured." Just like there are also some gay people who believe that being gay is "bad" and "wrong" and needs to be "cured."
It's sad to be this indoctrinated, but yes, such people exist.
But you shouldn't let this discourage you from meeting other people, it doesn't mean that everyone is like that.

That person said, "love yourself" like he thought I hate myself and want to suicide, that was shallow but that's absolutely not true. I love myself so much that's why I never want to be in constant pain, bad health, food problems, poor facilities , poor country and horrible system, very few opportunities, messy bad conditions, failure in the competition, no money, more suffering in the future. That's how my constant life is it's not because I hate myself it's because I live in extremely underprivileged country, no opportunities, extreme struggles for food, extreme pollution and moreover, evil system that doesn't care about it's people, can't provide facilities to it's people, bad education.... everything I'm suffering and there's more....

Thank you for understanding.

 

[Lamentice]

In the past I unfortunately said this platitude to a close friend, but I didn't mean it in the vapid way, but she didn't understand how I meant it either, which was justified, cause really it was still a worthless piece of advice to offer.

I think it's interesting that on SaSu you don't encounter these platitudes that much, but meet another suicidal person out in the wild elsewhere and there's a good chance they won't mange to sympathize or relate to you, can't listen, can't offer support, can't engage, can't be genuine, can't be present, but they often will mooch all those qualities off of you. I understand those individuals are certainly struggling with something... something.. for sure....

Maybe they didn't know how to be present or what to say, but since they're supposed to have perspective on your experience they should honestly be able to anticipate what kind of support you need. They could fucking ask. They could fucking say that they don't know what to say but are still present with you. I mean.. it's not hard to learn how to show up for people, even less hard to just ask.

I'm sorry that's what you were met with there's nothing of value there

 

[PeaceSeeker83]

I love myself but still want to die.

Let's face it, if somebody has been suicidal for long enough then it's just a matter of time.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I met this guy who is suicidal depressed too ( not in this site but in a social media)

So he told me why he is suicidal and depressed cause he has mental conditions, we are friends on that social media for a few months we don't even talk regularly but I talk about my plans and why I want to do....but that person just said, "Love yourself" i felt dumbfounded... like WHAT?!


I told him I love myself so much that I don't want to suffer longer and that person again said you should love yourself. I sympathise with him about his suffering and I told that a suicidal person needs empathy what a person truly thinks, feels and what miserable horrible condition that peeson is....not using a typical paraphrase again and again... like I was totally wrong about why a person genuinely be like this?!! Why suicidal person in other social media are not quite empathic about other suicidal person.... it's like "get help", love Yourself", "get therapy" are like their only words and this shit has zero sympathy about what other person is feeling or thinking or what conditions they have doesn't matter to them (???)
Not all of course but most....

Truly it was my mistake to get know more alike people in other sites.....

Just wanted to vent. This is the only place I can vent....

I would tell him why do u want me to be in a dangerous place continuously exposed to danger? life and this world are dangerous. life and this world can severely harm or extremely torture any human any day.

 

[Suwakoto]

Unfortunately there's a limit to what you can say in a "normal" public space, at minimum for social-media-TOS reasons and legal reasons (even in the U.S.).

But to be honest, if somebody who I was close with came up to me IRL and had the same suicidal feelings I did, there's a good chance I'd say the same "get professional help" BS even though I know the professional realm is often flawed / doesn't work for everyone / everyone always says it and I-know-you-know it. Since I'm not equipped to handle that kind of situation and the generic answer is the safest and one that requires the least thought and interaction. If I say something out of the norm and fuck up it could be my moral responsibility even ignoring the legal one.

Yes, I am admitting that I would be unable to provide sympathy and support for someone in that type of situation.

 

[PeaceSeeker83]

I would tell him why u want me to be in a dangerous place exposed to danger? life and this world are dangerous. life and this world can severely harm or extremely torture any human any day.

I was listening to a true crime podcast the other day and one of the presenters said she believes the world is a good place. You just can't reason with some people.

 

[SASU-KE]

You should have known better than to venture outside Sasu . Anyway, don't repeat that mistake.

 

[madjin]

I met this guy who is suicidal depressed too ( not in this site but in a social media)

So he told me why he is suicidal and depressed cause he has mental conditions, we are friends on that social media for a few months we don't even talk regularly but I talk about my plans and why I want to do....but that person just said, "Love yourself" i felt dumbfounded... like WHAT?!


I told him I love myself so much that I don't want to suffer longer and that person again said you should love yourself. I sympathise with him about his suffering and I told that a suicidal person needs empathy what a person truly thinks, feels and what miserable horrible condition that peeson is....not using a typical paraphrase again and again... like I was totally wrong about why a person genuinely be like this?!! Why suicidal person in other social media are not quite empathic about other suicidal person.... it's like "get help", love Yourself", "get therapy" are like their only words and this shit has zero sympathy about what other person is feeling or thinking or what conditions they have doesn't matter to them (???)
Not all of course but most....

Truly it was my mistake to get know more alike people in other sites.....

Just wanted to vent. This is the only place I can vent....

'Love yourself' I see this as the ultimate motivation to Kill myself. I love myself to not let myself suffer for Years on end, I love myself to avoid needless suffering, I love myself enough to choose a Method that is the most peaceful.

So yes, Love yourself. Love yourself enough to Free yourself from Suffering.

 

[valar_morghulis21]

I met this guy who is suicidal depressed too ( not in this site but in a social media)

So he told me why he is suicidal and depressed cause he has mental conditions, we are friends on that social media for a few months we don't even talk regularly but I talk about my plans and why I want to do....but that person just said, "Love yourself" i felt dumbfounded... like WHAT?!


I told him I love myself so much that I don't want to suffer longer and that person again said you should love yourself. I sympathise with him about his suffering and I told that a suicidal person needs empathy what a person truly thinks, feels and what miserable horrible condition that peeson is....not using a typical paraphrase again and again... like I was totally wrong about why a person genuinely be like this?!! Why suicidal person in other social media are not quite empathic about other suicidal person.... it's like "get help", love Yourself", "get therapy" are like their only words and this shit has zero sympathy about what other person is feeling or thinking or what conditions they have doesn't matter to them (???)
Not all of course but most....

Truly it was my mistake to get know more alike people in other sites.....

Just wanted to vent. This is the only place I can vent....

People don't understand that I actually love myself so much that I refuse to put up with bullshit and I don't let others disappoint me cause I got no expectation for them in the first place. And I love myself too much to realize I don't cut out for this life. I accept that I am who I am and what I want to stop existing

 

[Bootleg Astolfo]

I dont even have a sense of self so like, when people tell me that, it's literal nonsensical bullshit that just leaves me confused lol

 

[booplesnoot34]

The whole concept of "self-love" disgusts me. The idea of "self-care" repulses me, too. And don't even get me started on the completely false bullshit that is "nobody will love you if you don't love yourself."

 

[PersonBeforeLife]

I'm probably similar here. I'm here and plan to CTB... But when other people here suffer and CBT it hurts different... It's like my life is shit but I'm so saddened that people go through life ending adversity as well...

Truth is id tell everyone to do everything they can to change their lives and if all else fails they earned their death and have the closure in that (it's what I'm currently doing, to do everything I could and exhaust all options so that I have the closure to know this is all life is going to offer me and none of it is worth staying for, I tried my best playing the lottery of life and my family tried their best so the guilt is no one's, a clean break)