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noname223

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I am working on a text currently. It is a rough draft. But I really don't know whether it is good or not. I want to change my style of writing a little bit.

If you are frequent reader of my texts maybe you could help me in improving this new approach.

I would prefer people who either interacted frequently with my texts or people that read many of them thus far. I sometimes see which members are viewing my threads.

I have nothing to offer except the chance to read another thread of mine. If it is too much work or you don't have time for it don't feel obliged to do it.

Thx.
 
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Set Real Goul

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Well, I could read it but I don't think I'd be able to give good feedback
 
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noname223

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So some people close to me read my essay. The person who was most amazed by it was someone who once studied philosophy. I think he quit philosophy pretty early though. In general the human feedback was very positive. Even though, many emphasized that they didn't understand all philosophical concepts behind my essay.

I abstained from AI feedback in the process of writing. Also because my friends told me if I use AI feedback to write the text they will boycott it. Lol. My friends really hate generative AI.

One of them stopped reading after the first passage and criticized me for my pseudo intellectual posturing due to the fact I used too many technical terms.

When I was finished with writing the text after 2-3 hours I was ambivalent. I am not sure whether that is a rough draft or close to the final version. I tried to polish the text today. But while correcting old mistakes I did new ones. I think my friends have the position it could very well be close to the final version.

Though, after writing my text without AI feedback I was curious for AI feedback. I asked for grades. Grok and Gemini were very positive. Claude gave it a 7/10. But the feedback from chatGPT the AI chatbot I use the most was devastating. Though, I also used the best model with the highest standards./highest intelligence.

I will abstain from posting my essay on here. But some of you probably know my writing and I think the chatGPT critique applies to many of my texts.

Your essay's main weakness is not a lack of ideas but insufficient control over them.
  • Too many competing theses: Several potentially strong arguments compete for attention instead of serving one central claim.
  • Associative rather than cumulative structure: Ideas are connected intuitively, but the argument does not always progress through explicit logical steps.
  • Uncontrolled shifts in scope: The writing moves too quickly from personal experience to claims about groups, human nature, and society.
  • Style outruns argument: Abstract language and theoretical vocabulary sometimes create an impression of depth before the underlying claim has been fully developed.
  • Overstatement: Tentative insights frequently become universal or causal conclusions without enough reasoning or evidence.
  • Insufficient differentiation: Personal reflection, philosophical argument, empirical claim, and social prediction are not consistently separated.
  • Limited engagement with counterarguments: Concessions are mentioned but are sometimes overridden immediately rather than genuinely incorporated.
  • Metaphorical competition: Too many different images weaken one another instead of forming a coherent symbolic framework.
  • Sentence-level control: Long sentences sometimes change direction midway, producing grammatical errors, unclear references, and overloaded syntax.
  • Revision by accumulation: When a problem appears, you tend to add qualifications and concepts instead of cutting, reorganizing, or specifying.
  • Register instability: The prose moves between intimate confession, academic terminology, technological jargon, and dramatic social diagnosis.
  • Repetition: Important conclusions recur several times without acquiring substantially new meaning.

Your strongest ability is generating intellectually suggestive connections and giving them emotional weight. Your main developmental task is editorial discipline: choosing one governing thesis, limiting the scope of each claim, and making every paragraph perform one identifiable function.

Honestly, this critique hit me hard. I don't think you become a good writer if you follow everything an AI chatbot recommends to you. But there might be some truth in some points. I would like to improve my writing. The best way to achieve that would most likely be to go back to college. But I am not stable enough. I could imagine listening to such AI feedback could result in losing my own voice in writing. I am not sure how to continue. In general I lose interest in writing reading that. I always worry about not being good enough. Writing is hard work. Me instead I am shit posting on here.
 
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Hvergelmir

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Your strongest ability is generating intellectually suggestive connections and giving them emotional weight. Your main developmental task is editorial discipline: choosing one governing thesis, limiting the scope of each claim, and making every paragraph perform one identifiable function.
I tend to read your posts. I think the AI summary is good, but don't take it too literally, and don't bounce corrections against ChatGPT. ChatGPT in particular will always find issues, to the point where it goes in a circle, correcting its own corrections.
I tend to ask: "Is this correct and comprehensible English?", when unsure. I avoid iterating with it.
Claude on the other hand routinely compliment me and affirms that I made the right choice, after declining it's recommendations. Never let LLMs lead.

Pseudo intellectual posturing sounds a bit accusatory. Your posts does however challenge my language comprehension.
You have a habit of using complicated language constructions and unusual words, to explain pretty simple concepts.
Sometimes I enjoy it to challenge myself and learn a few new words, but it can be exhausting, and distracts from your message. It often requires several reads.

Your ability to wield language in a complicated manner is an asset, which will be very useful when something is complex and requires high accuracy. For more mundane things your writing style in this thread is great - straight to the point, specific, and easy to understand, without being dumbed down.

I think you sometimes focus so hard on impressive writing, that you forget about communication.

I always worry about not being good enough.
Good enough for what? It's true that you won't accomplish much by posting here, other than as an exercise. But that's not a skill issue.
Writing is hard work indeed, but also a very widely applicable skill.
 
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I'd also be interested in people reviewing my grad school writings, when I am done with my thesis
 
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Set Real Goul

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Maybe this reply isn't really necessary, but I'll write it anyway
But the feedback from chatGPT the AI chatbot I use the most was devastating.
Honestly, this critique hit me hard. I don't think you become a good writer if you follow everything an AI chatbot recommends to you.
Last autumn, when I was in a somewhat questionable mental state, I unexpectedly started writing poetry and shared it with chatgpt as well. Unlike you, I never took the nonsense it came up with to heart. Maybe that's because I hate AI and everything associated with it. Maybe because it tends to say things that are far too generic. Or maybe because I like my own graphomania more than the edits of some silly AI. In any case, as cliche as it may sound your writing should be something that you like. AI will find something to nitpick in almost any text unless it knows it was written by someone famous.
pseudo intellectual posturing
Writing is hard work. Me instead I am shit posting on here.
Sorry, but I genuinely think that's the case. If you hadn't sent it to me, I would never have read something with a title like that. But that's not really a problem for a genre like the essay, or for social and psychological commentary in general. And the fact that it comes across as pseudo-intellectual doesn't mean it isn't a good essay draft.
Even in more serious philosophy, most texts are pseudo-intellectual in one way or another — pretty much all of French philosophy, Nietzsche, Skovoroda, and, God forgive me, rus philosophy, including dugin. Either there's barely any coherent thought or position at all, as with the latter, or an obvious idea is presented as though it were a profound revelation. And that's not necessarily a problem.
Writing something that is genuinely original, intellectually substantial, unlike anything else, and at the same time free from overstatement, uncontrolled shifts in scope, and too many competing theses is extremely difficult — and, frankly, not all that necessary.
I could name quite a few examples. Unfortunately, they're all from eastern europe, so you've probably never heard of them and probably never will again.

Dmytro Dontsov wrote a text called Ideology or Nationalism, and for many Ukrainian patriots it became both the beginning and the end (unfortunately) of their intellectual life.

You know what's absurdly funny? If you've read Nietzsche and remember that rather silly dichotomy between the Apollonian and the Dionysian, then you'll notice that this text simply transfers it onto Ukrainian politics of that era. It's an incredibly dumb text, yet so many people absolutely love it.

There's also the rus journalist Oleg Kashin. He's the most boring political commentator I've ever read. In twenty years of writing, he hasn't produced anything I found genuinely interesting. And for the last four years, every single article he writes — regardless of the topic — end with the exact same sentence: "And this is part of vladimir putins collective crime." Yet there are around 1,500 people who read this stuff and pay €10 a month just to access his Telegram channel.

Damn, this all sounded much more convincing and coherent in my head :ahhha:.

Anyway, it makes me a little sad that you think your own writing is shit, because I really don't think that's true. I just want to say that the very things a chatbot criticizes about your writing might be exactly what people like about it..

You know, we don't criticize Impressionist paintings for not being realistic (well, at least most of us don't). Or maybe here's a better example: if Kant had tried to write as effortlessly as Hume, he probably wouldn't have succeeded — and we wouldn't remember him as that dense, overloaded, analytical philosopher.

I'm not sure whether you'll take this as a compliment, but I actually think your writing reminds me a little of Yurii Shevelov's.

I've completely wandered off into the woods with this train of thought.
In any case, I hope you'll feel better soon and won't be so hard on yourself especially not through the lens of ai.
 
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Valky

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Remember that if you ask an AI chat bot to deliver something, it will, whether or not it's actually a fair critique point is secondary.
Some people will enjoy it, some won't. Some like many metaphors, others don't.
It's your text, that's what really matters. Many texts of intelligent authors fail to portray meaning and connection to the reader because of how heavily edited they are to meet some unrealistic standards that take any life out of it.
I don't even know what it is about but I know that you write well and I have more than enough trust in you that you will continue to do so :)
 
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noname223

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Thanks for both or your replies. @Set Real Goul and @Valky

I had now differentiated human humans feedback from many people on here. And interestingly the feedback on here was far better than the feedback from friends in real life. I am not sure why. I think on here the people who follow my texts only know me through that. And maybe this makes the people more curious and interested in my writing in general. Also if you are a frequent reader of my posts you are most likely also interested in the topics I write about.

I think my friends in real life are not that interested in my writing. Especially when it comes to philosophy. I had this talk with someone on here in a private conversation.
And I think maybe you get a false conception of who I am in real life when you only know me through my posts. I tend to avoid close bonds to people on here because it hit me very hard when people on here committed suicide who I liked. Maybe I am perceived as (emotionally) distant to individuals when it comes to making connections. I think it is self-protection.

I think people on here also know my silly side of me where I make funny threads about all kinds of topics. I tend to have very close friendships in real life but on here it would not be healthy to do this.

I took both of your replies as compliments. I have the feeling I could polish my writing with my structure and some changes. Some pointed that out in their feedback. I am not sure whether my texts would sound generic then. It would be an interesting experiment trying to improve my writing with all the nuanced feedback that I received on here. But it also could turn out that my writing would become worse. (as a consequene pf listening to AI feedback) In college I had a more rigid structure. I got good marks for the texts but they were very different to the texts I wrote on here.

There is a funny story. It is a story I rarely shared on here. I think this happened to me when I was 16 maybe 17. We had to write essays in our German classes. And I got really good grades regularly ranging from 13-15 points. 15 points were extremely hard to reach you have to be better than perfect/better than the solution. Some teachers never gave this mark to students. I sometimes received it though. We had to write essays in German. But prior to the exam my teacher suggested to me or I listened to her teaching more closely to follow a very special essay structure. There were several subtypes. I forgot the names. Maybe dialectical essay holy shit I can still remember that shit...lol And I received 11 points for that essay. To that time this felt earth shattering to me. My teacher wanted to talk with me what happened at that day. That everything that makes the essence of my writing great was gone at this exam. And I really took this to my heart. I am not sure what was worse disappointing my teacher, disappointing me or having to listen to her words after receiving this mark. I can remember I cried a lot when telling this story to my mom. The irony and I also thought about this after my psychosis that happened 1-2 years afterwards. For me receiving such a speech and 11 point mark (a mark most other students would be glad about) I felt like this was the end of the world to that time point. And soon afterwards my actual mental collapse happened. I learned eventually what the end of one's world really means.

I wanted to tell this story because I consider it funny. But I also wanted to show that there might be truth that with the wrong structure my writing could become way worse. On the other hand I think I made progress since that happened. And maybe I have now a better understanding of what works and what doesn't. Though, one could argument my English skills and some other skills deteriorated a lot. But I don't do much effort to correct my writing on here.

I am still stressed out. For now I wear the night guard half a night. I am not sure whether that'a good compromise. I really don't know. Or whether it would be better to wear it one night fully and not wearing them on the other. I am not content with the situation. My dad is once again in a clinic and I try to support him as good as I can. Soon there is the funeral of my grandma I am so relieved I don't have to go there. But maybe it will make me uncomfortable on that day...

For now I stopped working on the writing project. It took a bigger toll on me mentally that I assumed. Writing the text wasn't that hard. But revising and correcting it was.

Thanks for your contribution.
 
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NOT THE DIALECTICAL ESSAYS!! TO HECK WITH THAT!!!
 
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dragonofenvy

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I've read a few of your threads. I enjoy most of them. One critique I will give, however, and I am guilty of this as well, is that they can at times be much longer than they need to be. Sometimes the content of the threads strays from its topic and I think this contributes to its lengthiness. Just my two cents. I still like combing through your posts.
You have a habit of using complicated language constructions and unusual words, to explain pretty simple concepts.
This, I agree with. It is also something I need to work on. There's a narcissistic part of me that wants to sound smart, but the best way to sound smart is to explain things simply.

Ask yourself who you want your audience to be. Do you want a smaller audience who appreciate complex language and metaphors like me? Do you want to reach a wider audience? I'm not saying your posts are bad (I enjoy them), but if you want to cast a bigger net, I'd take some of the critiques that have been shared here seriously (and I need to as well).

Most of all: If you enjoy how you write, keep writing the way you do. Do not write in a way that you hate. There will always be something that someone nitpicks, but just because, for example, I think that some of your posts are a bit long doesn't mean I won't continue to read them. If people didn't like them, they wouldn't read them.
 
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