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Quimont

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Jul 7, 2020
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Feels like some optimist saying. It is a matter of perspective but sometimes, it's really hard to get it.
 
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Heart Shards

The shards of my broken heart cut deep.
Feb 3, 2019
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Feels like some optimist saying. It is a matter of perspective but sometimes, it's really hard to get it.
People without immense suffering can't understand us. They think...its a gift.
 
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Epsilon0

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Dec 28, 2019
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People without immense suffering can't understand us. They think...its a gift.


It's like asking a deaf person to describe what a symphony sounds like.

As far as I'm concerned the only people who understood why I hate my life are patients with the same or similiar illnesses. Usually people I met at hospitals or in group therapy.

I understand why that is.

I mean just as someone doesn't get me, I don't get them. For instance, I have no clue what someone with OCD goes through, because I cannot put myself in their shoes. I have never experienced their pain.

What really annoys the hell out of me is when Jack, Jill and Johnny, who have no clue about my life and health issues, give me advice on how to get better, and say shit like "life is beautiful no matter how hard it is."
 
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HappyMstake

HappyMstake

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May 29, 2020
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Well yes for most people that's true. In my case staying alive for 60 or so more years just sounds so damn exhausting, in a life where you hate your job, you hate yourself, and most of the people around you are fake and don't care about you at all. I just don't see the need in being happy just for the hell of it, when I could be gone and never have to worry about anything.

To some people the things I mentioned probably don't seem like valid enough reasons. I mean some people can deal with the pressures of life, some can't, or simply choose not to. It is what it is.
 
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EmbraceOfTheVoid

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A pile of shit with a cherry on top of it is still a pile of shit.
 
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Feb 10, 2020
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Everyone's happiness / success seems to be dependent on someone else's misery
 
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Meowkin

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May 6, 2020
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People react differently to words. Those words might help some. If they do, well and good. On the other hand, it might have the complete opposite effect on others.

I think it's good to be sensitive about people's reactions to words. What I think about the usual words that get said to someone suicidal eg "you're still young and have so much to live for" is that in general there is truth to those words. However, they don't apply to everyone and might not apply at all in a person's specific situation.

In addition, the attitude of the person saying those words is usually "there's something wrong with you if you don't believe what I'm saying" can be quite damaging in itself.
 
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Fullof pain

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Jul 1, 2020
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I saw that comment yesterday on a Fb group for depressive people like me. A guy told me no matter how hard life it is I should be happy just for the simple fact of being alive. And don't compare my life with others'. What do you think? Not trying to be prolifer but it made me rethink and I'm feeling stupid for being suicidal..
Have you read any of Viktor Frankl's work ? Kinda deals with that very issue." The Meaning of Life", is his attempt to quantify our very existence.
 
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rhiino

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May 13, 2020
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Only somebody with an easy life can say something like that. If they really suffered, they would back out of that sentiment in a minute.
 
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Sprite_Geist

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Life is random; not totally beautiful or ugly but a mix of both. What makes life bad is how some folks, not all, but some treat each other.
 
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GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
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I think it's far more accurate that Gautama Buddha identified life as inherently full of suffering. Pleasure doesn't last, and in being attached to it, one suffers when it is gone, so according to the theory, suffering is bound up in everything, and everything is impermanent, all conditions and circumstances change and, of course, death comes to all.

Gautama also said that enjoying suffering is not freedom from suffering. I think that platitudes like "Life is beautiful" can be like the padding of a drug to make reality more palatable but also filtered, which keeps one from experiencing it with full awareness (and leads to negating others who do, because the pain pokes at the illusion's padding). If something overrides the drug or sentiment, it hurts even worse that the panacea failed, because one was not prepared for reality, and has to simultaneously deal with having been disillusioned when they so strongly relied on the drug or the myth of the platitude as a foundation to support them, protect them, and provide an altered and illusory experience they cannot get back.
 
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I think it's far more accurate that Gautama Buddha identified life as inherently full of suffering. Pleasure doesn't last, and in being attached to it, one suffers when it is gone, so according to the theory, suffering is bound up in everything, and everything is impermanent, all conditions and circumstances change and, of course, death comes to all.

Gautama also said that enjoying suffering is not freedom from suffering. I think that platitudes like "Life is beautiful" can be like the padding of a drug to make reality more palatable but also filtered, which keeps one from experiencing it with full awareness (and leads to negating others who do, because the pain pokes at the illusion's padding). If something overrides the drug or sentiment, it hurts even worse that the panacea failed, because one was not prepared for reality, and has to simultaneously deal with having been disillusioned when they so strongly relied on the drug or the myth of the platitude as a foundation to support them, protect them, and provide an altered and illusory experience they cannot get back.

well said.
 
Misery99

Misery99

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May 12, 2020
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What's the beauty of life if I can't enjoy it? Living behind these 4 walls,not having social skills to blend with other people.Wishing every second that I was dead. Life is beautiful for normal people but not for different people like me...
 
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Heavy

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Jun 20, 2020
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Yeah life is beautiful even when its hard. Tell that to the Los Zetas member on the floor in pain after they peeled his face off and cut off his both hands and strangled the blood flow with bandages to keep him from dying. That's really beautiful.

He probably cursed his body not dying that day.
 
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death unto me

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Well beauty is subjective. Ask them to define "beautiful", is it seeing people buried in poverty while others are literally sitting in stash of cash,is it bombing nations just to add a few km in your border, or is it seeing people suffer while you're here preaching toxic positivity. But really there's no beauty in pain, suffering,starvation,torture,exploitation, and poverty unless you're a sadist.
 
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