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less obscure reasons to CTB (political and economical)

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in this thread, i thought about making a companion thread, to an upcoming thread about "obscure reasons to CTB".

here i will mainly focus on political and economical reasons, however i might stray into trivial reasons too, so please feel free to comment, or whatever.

feel free to use a VPN or Tor, if you're paranoid about being tracked by potentially nefarious people, when clicking the links i sent, or just read instead.

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there are 8 billion people - 8,225,349,604 specifically when i write this text, according to worldometers - https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

how many people are born per year? https://ourworldindata.org/births-and-deaths

132 million babies were born in 2024.
62 million people died in 2024.

70 million extra people are born every year.

what's the median age of the world?

i can't answer, sadly, but look at this list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_median_age

countries like Niger, have a combined median age, of 15.1 years old.
meaning, 50% of the population is under 15.1 years old, and 50% is over 15.1 years old ...

idk how they calculated this, but it looks staggering, because 26 MILLION people live in Niger.

i'm sorry for their famines, i'm sorry for their poverty, but when i think how many kids they have, it makes me even sadder, and sick, even avoidant, when thinking of so many people, in such a poor country, it's like staring at the Sun, our host star ...

i can't look at the Sun for long, just as i can't think about poor countries for long, even if Romania, where I lived most of my 27 years, isn't exactly rich either (compared to California or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Banana the Blue Banana of Europe, or whatever rich places of the world you read about, or imagined from online comments ...)

...

lets look at another country, on the seemingly big African continent, West Africa, because it sounds cool - oh look
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria
Nigeria has 236 million people. What's the median yearly income in Nigeria? ...

i forgot where to look, but hey, i found a page
- List of countries by wealth per adult

Nigeria - 101,545,000 adults - that's 101,5 million adults right? my eyes aren't hallucinating?

236 million people, that means 136 million people are under 18?

what? it sounds kinda sad ... 136 million people under 18 in Nigeria ...

my childhood wasn't amazing in Romania, but yeah, and while there's hope in Nigeria, i can't help but feel a little dismayed, uneasy, and desperate when i think of so many daily interactions, so many yearly interactions ...

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anyway, i got carried away, the median WEALTH, not income, is 1,507 which is I assume is 1507 dollars per median adult. Wow ...

where do i find the INCOME? ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...hold_final_consumption_expenditure_per_capita

List of countries by household final consumption expenditure per capita

but it doesn't feel right, because it lists Nigeria at ~4,9k dollars per year?

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i found this article

- Global poverty in an unequal world: Who is considered poor in a rich country? And what does this mean for our understanding of global poverty?


"Those who are in monetary poverty also have much poorer living conditions more broadly. Even in a rich and relatively equal country like Denmark middle-aged men who are among the poorest 20% of the population die on average 9 years earlier than those among the richest 20%.1 In Denmark a person who lives on less than $30 per day is considered poor, and it is the declared goal of the country to reduce poverty relative to this threshold.2"

30 dollars, per person, PER DAY? wtf ... 30 * 365 = 10,950 dollars per year, per person right?

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wow, that's a lot of consumption, what about the new green deal? what about climate change? what about trips using planes?

new computers? how many new computers, or new computer parts, or phones, would i be allowed every 5 years on average, if i wanted to be eco friendly?

can i find used computers, without creating new CO2 emissions (only transportation of the used objects), with reasonable performance, that work well under Linux, would that make my lifestyle acceptable? i got carried away.

i found a reasonable used phone store (https://seria9.ro/ - i'm not affiliated, i just thought of pasting that link) in Romania, but the phones, mostly come from China, and that's a controversial country too, to put it mildly, but i use a Motorola, with parts from China too, and a CPU from Samsung, called Exynos, and both the CPU is controversial (because of security vulnerabilities, but i can live with that, ok), and South Korea (where Samsung is, and where, the Exynos CPU SoC (System on Chip) might've been made) is also controversial, oh i just remembered the Gaokao, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaokao one of the hardest exams in the world, that is connected to college, or University, which I never went to - i got carried away, i'll stop ...

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this chart - https://ourworldindata.org/cdn-cgi/...g/cf3631ec-ea77-4e1e-0308-c4e03cfd0000/w=2921

archive link:
{{cite web
| title = w=2921 (2921×2474)
| url = https://ourworldindata.org/cdn-cgi/...g/cf3631ec-ea77-4e1e-0308-c4e03cfd0000/w=2921
| date = 2025-05-27
| archiveurl = http://archive.today/lvyf8
| archivedate = 2025-05-27 }}

shows China at around 12.5 dollars per day. Wow. 12.5 * 365 = 4500 dollars per year, or 4500 / 12 = 375 dollars per MONTH. Wow ...

China has developed, but is still poor by Reddit, or Quora, or whatever standards that i have in my mind ...

Nigeria is even lower, lower than India, and India shows, 4.5 / day. 4.5 * 365 = 1642 / 12 = 136 dollars every ~30 days, wow.

so much for them buying a Ford F350, or Toyota Hilux, every year, or leasing it or whatever ...

Later Edit:
Nigerians are people from Nigeria.
Nigeriens are people from Niger.

it's not an insult
Demonym(s)Nigerien[5]
(from wikipedia)

if i went on a racist rant about them, or encouraged what some Redditors below said, where i used "quotes" - then yes, it would've been worth to be restricted. it's sad i guess, idk how to react at this point.

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so much for the welfare queens, so much for them smoking cannabis every day, drinking Jack Daniels, and playing Call of Duty on a Threadripper workstation in the cloud or something ...

yeah i don't do that, because Romania isn't like USA near Mexico, with a much higher wealth per adult, or whatever, EU has https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_European_Union 24 official languages, and 27 member states.

better geography, and a different drug culture compared to Eastern EU ...

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yeah idk what to say anymore ... also shoutout to https://old.reddit.com/r/overpopulation for making me more aware of women's rights, income per capita, education, and just awareness beyond any formal certification, just reading helps, i guess.

i feel drained ... scatter brained ...

it's easy to type a thousand word essay, harder to publicize it, harder to become politically relevant ...

before i disappear again for a week or so, or forever (?)

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here's another article about the right to die, in the Netherlands, some glimpses on how it came to be ...

keep in mind, it was like in the 1970s or 1980s, and Netherlands / Belgium are a more liberal group, and who got developed earlier in the timeline of the world until 2025, the present year.

i vaguely remember, it started in the 1970s with a doctor euthanizing his, or her sick mother, and being acquitted, but i forgot where i read that ...

{{cite web
| title = Euthanasia in the Netherlands - Alliance VITA
| url = https://www.alliancevita.org/en/2017/11/euthanasia-in-the-netherlands/
| date = 2024-04-04
| archiveurl = http://archive.today/tjnhm
| archivedate = 2024-04-04 }}

this is by some pro-life group, but even they recognize

> In 2016, there were 16 cases of euthanasia per day in this country, for a population of 16.8 million; thus accounting for 4% of all deaths annually.

> The majority of these euthanasia cases (83%) were performed on patients suffering from incurable diseases, another 10% for multiple pathologies, 4% for disabilities related to old age, 2% for psychiatric disorders and 1% for dementia.

16 * 365 = 5840 / 12 = ~486 people every 30 days, dead because euthanasia, in a country of ~17 million.

17000000 / 6000 = 2833 ~ 1 in 2833 people? keep in mind i used the 2024 population, for a 2016 report ...

1% would be 28.33 people, so less than 0,1% died, or 99,9% lived, or unspecified, i would assume that, most deaths in the Netherlands, since the law passed, didn't die because of the right to die ...

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> The majority of these euthanasia cases (83%) were performed on patients suffering from incurable diseases, another 10% for multiple pathologies,

> 4% for disabilities related to old age, 2% for psychiatric disorders and 1% for dementia.

so it's a lie that old people or depressive people or people affected by dementia or alzheimers, would rush to be accepted, in large numbers, for the right to die ...

even in the NL, for some, the most liberal country ever?
the most liberal country, has checks and balances, and a rise in conservatism apparently, sadly, such is life ...

look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_suicide

not many countries have it, and only 4% of deaths, are caused by assisted suicide, in the Netherlands "(...) for a population of 16.8 million; thus accounting for 4% of all deaths annually".

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later edit 1:

if 4% of deaths meant 5840 deaths, then how much are 100%?

If 4% equals 5,840 deaths, then to find 100%:


100% = (5,840 × 100) ÷ 4
100% = 584,000 ÷ 4
100% = 146,000 deaths

this was ChatGPT assisted, it could be wrong.

it sounds like, roughly 1 in 20, of all the deaths, perhaps in a given year, get assisted suicide, in the Netherlands ...

> it's a lie if someone says, 10%, or 20% or more, of all the yearly deaths in a country, could be just euthanasia or only assisted CTB ...

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edit 2:

i tried to make a basic infographic, using ChatGPT:

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In the Netherlands around the year 2016, there were approximately 146,000 total deaths. Of these, about 5,840 deaths (or 4%) were from assisted suicide (euthanasia).

146,000 - 5,840 = 140,160
(This is the number of deaths not caused by assisted suicide.)

ASCII Bar Comparison:
Each # represents 1,460 deaths (100 # = 146,000 deaths)

100% |
#################################################################################################### (100 #)
(all deaths, 140k)

4% |
#### (4 #)
(euthanasia, 5,8k)

Of the 5,840 euthanasia cases, the majority (83%) were performed on patients suffering from incurable diseases. These typically included:

1. Late-stage cancer
2. Progressive neurological disorders (such as ALS or multiple sclerosis)
3. End-stage heart failure
4. Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD)
5. Advanced stages of Parkinson's disease
6. Severe, treatment-resistant pain or suffering from terminal conditions

These cases followed Dutch legal requirements, including voluntary and well-considered patient requests and the presence of unbearable suffering with no chance of recovery.

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{{cite web
| title = Denmark to raise retirement age to 70 Hacker News
| url = https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44088957
| date = 2025-05-27
| archiveurl = http://archive.today/PpTuW
| archivedate = 2025-05-27 }}

oh Denmark, the country of the "socialist death squads and healthcare death panels" has raised the pension age to 70, but no right to die, yet ...

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these old mostly forgotten Reddit Romania comments, sometimes said that, "parasites must be killed, homeless people must be killed"

or cut off from the "generous" welfare Romania has (what i remember from the latter years, when moderation got stricter)

btw the VMG - Venitul Minim Garantat - a sort of UBI in Romania, apparently is 150 RON or ~30 euros / 30 dollars per month, or it was, last time i checked, around 2019, i'm too lazy to check now.

that's ~1 dollar per day, or ~5 lions or 5 RON (new romanian lions) per 30 days or something ...

incredibly generous, and still no right to die, (or legal gay partnerships in Romania) because these "parasites" aren't seen as politically relevant, and these Romanian Redditors who wrote the comments, don't seem to be politically influential enough, or rich enough.

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i vaguely remember, some redditors indirectly killing their elderly mothers, by interring them to paid, private asylums, after they were over 70 or something, had cancer, terminal diseases, and illegally killing them, with their wealth, which was like, 8k - 10k RON or something, around 2k dollars per month, for asylums, or nursing homes in Romania ...

but because they were rich enough, and Romania is corrupt enough, they could cover up their deaths, and after they need was satisfied, they didn't care to advocate for a right to die, for all.

lest be accused of "delayed" murder or whatever, even if they chose to incinerate their parent, which is rarer in Romania (burials usually happen, because of religion, and culture, i guess)

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> if they chose to incinerate their parent, according to this video - https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=T1_at6WVVgY - vanatorul de batrani recorder "elderly hunter" by the recorder channel, Romanian prosecutors weren't able to prosecute, because, certain elderly people, were incinerated, and some expertise deemed that, they couldn't pay money for analysis of the carbonized remains, because they already "knew" that they couldn't find anything that caused their death, for sure.

such is Romania ...

i wonder if that person, who incinerated elderly people to get their wealth used Arsenic (which according to some YouTube / Invidious comment) would still be detectable, or sleeping pills, or Nembutal, or idk what?

i haven't heard of this case in years, since it was published on Youtube ...

anyway, the Redditors probably won't advocate, because they done their deed, and could care less after, most of them i guess.

social shame, stigma or whatever.

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but nobody cares i guess, the country is corrupt, low trust, the winner takes it all, the loser has to fall, haha so funny ...

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i'm not on welfare or any handouts, my mom is doing what she can, i'm a single kid, blah blah ...

i live in the home of my grandparents, who died, one in 2014 at 86, the grandfather, and at ~86 in 2023, the grandmother.

"also, consider making your grandparent or whoever owns your home, write a will before they die, because of notary fees, to the successors, which aren't cheap in Romania. you can look up the so called "notary mafia". anyway, it's not urgent, just remembered this random fact."

(this is an older quote from my 1st thread of mine, located here: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...bill-saga-finally-resolved-april-2025.205429/)

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oh and some facts about anxiety:

@_AyJay

Here's the list + Timestamps:
1. Anxiety is not a bad thing... It's an important thing 0:08

2. If you're anxious about unimportant things, it means you lack an important thing in your life 0:23

3. Anxiety will convince you that things are bigger and more unmanageable than they actually are 0:37

4. Practice Negative Visualisation 1:09

5. You're terrible at predicing the future 1:49

6. Most social anxiety is secretly codependence in disguise. 2:19

7. Nobody f*cking gives a shit. 3:07

8. Your comparisons are terrible. 3:31

9. You should get off your screens. 4:13

10. Go talk to people face-to-face 4:35

11. Focus on what you control,and ignore what you can't. 6:06

12. Create a "F*ck it List" 6:32

13. Drink less caffeine,get more sleep,drink more water,eat more vegetables. 6:

14. Exercise more. 7:21

15. Regulate your breathing. 7:41

16. Anxiety is just an emotion 8:03

17. implement a routine. 8:30

18. You are just like the greats of History 8:49

19. High performers have a different orientation towards stress and anxiety 9:38

20. We're all wrong about everything. 9:58

21. There's a little bit of success and failure in every experience that you have. 10:19

22. Imagine you're on your deathbed. 10:46

Good luck! 11:08

11 months ago (edited) | [YT] | 327

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22 Reasons Why Your Anxiety Is Lying to You


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regarding the death bed fallacy:

{{cite web
| title = The Deathbed Fallacy (2018) Hacker News
| url = https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43944467
| date = 2025-05-27
| archiveurl = http://archive.today/l9uHt
| archivedate = 2025-05-27 }}


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sorry for the brain dump, i think the "obscure reasons why to CTB" is going to get delayed.

i'm going to leave you with an obscure, FTL (faster than light) 3D space game, called Rodina.

i liked the soundtrack, and i thought of leaving you with this song at the end:

Rodina Soundtrack - Main Theme

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bye for now.
 
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