Legal assisted medical route

[Rational man]

Hello

So ive been ill for a Year, constant pain and remain undiagnosed though I have many cancer alarm symptoms. Hospital is unable to detect disease at present. Doctors appear obsessed about algorithms and not my physical illness.

My quality of life has crashed with constant pain and weight loss, sick, vomiting.

Obviously things not getting better just worse. Ive been contemplating suicide for a while, using a rational approach that ive had a fulfilling life. Nothing left undone. In addition, not to mention financial hit with sickness.

so im considering the legal route though Dignitas in Switzerland.

i would rather have control at the end and not have a long drawn out painful death to satisfy medical ethics of keeping me alive in a incurable disease.

so yes, It maybe my route, legal, above board and painless.

any thoughts ?

 

[Mors]

I have also looked into Dignitas due to the debilitating complications I have suffered due to medical practice after a surgery that has all but ended my life at 25.

According to their website, documentation of a diagnosis is part of the paperwork that is required to be included in a formal request for the preparation of an accompanied suicide:

One or more up-to-date medical reports together with two or three older ones. These reports must provide substantial information on the case history, diagnosis, and - if possible - actual and suggested treatment / measures as well as prognosis. The most recent report must not be more than three to four months old, and all reports must be clearly legible. Pictures, such as x-ray films etc., and laboratory analyses should not be included.

 

[russoquan]

Dignitas is a whole different procedure and most people get rejected. Many people I know have used other means for their peaceful exit without going to Dignitas

 

[Rational man]

I have also looked into Dignitas due to the debilitating complications I have suffered due to medical practice after a surgery that has all but ended my life at 25.

According to their website, documentation of a diagnosis is part of the paperwork that is required to be included in a formal request for the preparation of an accompanied suicide:

I have files of paperwork noting undiagnosed distressing condition. Many people die undiagnosed, some get cause of death afterwards.Sorry sbout your situ. You are young. Im twice your age.

Dignitas is a whole different procedure and most people get rejected. Many people I know have used other means for their peaceful exit without going to Dignitas

Its not cheap, flight plus fees but it is a possibility..

 

[Mors]

I have files of paperwork noting undiagnosed distressing condition. Many people die undiagnosed, some get cause of death afterwards.Sorry sbout your situ. You are young. Im twice your age.

Thank you. I am sorry to hear you are suffering as well.

It is awful that we both have to consider ending our lives due to our circumstances. Even worse is that it can be a long, complicated process if we choose the medically-assisted route, or a painful, uncertain and possible failure if we take matters into our own hands.

I agree that many people are undiagnosed as well as misdiagnosed (if I wasn't misdiagnosed I would have never needed the surgery that ended up resulting in my situation).

Unfortunately I am not sure of Dignitas' opinion on this matter nor if they make exceptions for undiagnosed conditions. Apparently they deny many people's requests even with documented diagnoses.

 

[Rational man]

Thank you. I am sorry to hear you are suffering as well.

It is awful that we both have to consider ending our lives due to our circumstances. Even worse is that it can be a long, complicated process if we choose the medically-assisted route, or a painful, uncertain and possible failure if we take matters into our own hands.

I agree that many people are undiagnosed as well as misdiagnosed (if I wasn't misdiagnosed I would have never needed the surgery that ended up resulting in my situation).

Unfortunately I am not sure of Dignitas' opinion on this matter nor if they make exceptions for undiagnosed conditions. Apparently they deny many people's requests even with documented diagnoses.

ive been undiagnosed for five Years, the last Year was awful. We wouldn't see our beloved pets suffer. No we assist them at the vets practice. Ethics in the medical world is outdated in my oppinion, because they want to cure and keep alive patient s . My mother suffered terribly in the end. She wanted to go but the doctors could do nothing. I don't want to see that in me.

 

[Rational man]

I have files of paperwork noting undiagnosed distressing condition. Many people die undiagnosed, some get cause of death afterwards.Sorry sbout your situ. You are young. Im twice your age.

Its not cheap, flight plus fees but it is a possibility for me.

I have files of paperwork noting undiagnosed distressing condition. Many people die undiagnosed, some get cause of death afterwards.Sorry sbout your situ. You are young. Im twice your age.

Its not cheap, flight plus fees but it is a possibility for me.

I have files of paperwork noting undiagnosed distressing condition. Many people die undiagnosed, some get cause of death afterwards.Sorry sbout your situ. You are young. Im twice your age.

Its not cheap, flight plus fees but it is a possibility for me.

 

[FuneralCry]

I'm sorry you are suffering so much. Euthanasia should be legal everywhere, and I agree that nobody should have to suffer a painful death. I wish you the best with it and I hope you find peace.

 

[Rational man]

Nice words and thank you. Having.witnessed my mother die from cancer, i asked myself where was god? I ve seen better deaths in animals laying in the gutter. So i don't intend to end up like mum. Best wishes ❤❤

 

[Mindy]

You don't need to have a "Diagnosis" to get a VAD. At least not at Pegasos. If you want to talk about this, feel free to send a PM :)

 

[Rational man]

You don't need to have a "Diagnosis" to get a VAD. At least not at Pegasos. If you want to talk about this, feel free to send a PM :)

Thanks. I appreciate your reply❤❤

 

[Rational man]

You don't need to have a "Diagnosis" to get a VAD. At least not at Pegasos. If you want to talk about this, feel free to send a PM :)

Just checked the site. 10, 000 Euro plus membership. Theres an application process but all above board. Getting to Switzerland is easy for me. I feel more in control..its nice to know that I have a rational and comfortable option. I could even tour the area before 'the big sip '. I can avoid the medical protocols and die on my terms, and not be savaged by the horrors of cancer❤❤

 

[dropintheocean]

Just checked the site. 10, 000 Euro plus membership. Theres an application process but all above board. Getting to Switzerland is easy for me. I feel more in control..its nice to know that I have a rational and comfortable option. I could even tour the area before 'the big sip '. I can avoid the medical protocols and die on my terms, and not be savaged by the horrors of cancer❤❤

Hi! May I ask how did pegasos process go?

 

[Rational man]

Hi! May I ask how did pegasos process go?

It.hasn't. LOCKDOWN and.flight restrictioms hadn't helped. But then.UK government is set to allow.assisted suicide, pending further scrutiny. Its looking promising which would mean i can.legally ask.for.help.here in UK. Its going to be a tight run thing as my illness is worse by the day.

 

[dropintheocean]

It.hasn't. LOCKDOWN and.flight restrictioms hadn't helped. But then.UK government is set to allow.assisted suicide, pending further scrutiny. Its looking promising which would mean i can.legally ask.for.help.here in UK. Its going to be a tight run thing as my illness is worse by the day.

Thanks for sharing! Did you look other places than pegasos? Do you know if theres other options as good as pegasos for foreigners? Im hoping best gor uk!

 

[dropintheocean]

It.hasn't. LOCKDOWN and.flight restrictioms hadn't helped. But then.UK government is set to allow.assisted suicide, pending further scrutiny. Its looking promising which would mean i can.legally ask.for.help.here in UK. Its going to be a tight run thing as my illness is worse by the day.

How are things with you Rational man? Im wondering do you happen to know do people travel for vad only to switzerland or is there other countries as an option for foreigners to have vad? Thank you if you can share!

Thank you. I am sorry to hear you are suffering as well.

It is awful that we both have to consider ending our lives due to our circumstances. Even worse is that it can be a long, complicated process if we choose the medically-assisted route, or a painful, uncertain and possible failure if we take matters into our own hands.

I agree that many people are undiagnosed as well as misdiagnosed (if I wasn't misdiagnosed I would have never needed the surgery that ended up resulting in my situation).

Unfortunately I am not sure of Dignitas' opinion on this matter nor if they make exceptions for undiagnosed conditions. Apparently they deny many people's requests even with documented diagnoses.

Hi Mors! May I ask did you apply for vad? Or still planning?

 

[Rational man]

How are things with you Rational man? Im wondering do you happen to know do people travel for vad only to switzerland or is there other countries as an option for foreigners to have vad? Thank you if you can share!

Hi Mors! May I ask did you apply for vad? Or still planning?

i can't really add. It may change in UK as a Bill i s being discussed by our parliament. In which case it may become legal here.

 

[completely-done]

Doesn't pegasos limit ages under 50 or something? There's no way I'm waiting that long lol

 

[dropintheocean]

Doesn't pegasos limit ages under 50 or something? There's no way I'm waiting that long lol

No, just have to be over 18. But its much harder to get accepted if under 50.

i can't really add. It may change in UK as a Bill i s being discussed by our parliament. In which case it may become legal here.

Thanks! What do you think how long could it take in UK? Is vad you are tslking about there? Not euthanasia? So you are not going forward with switzerland?

 

[brainpain2]

I've looked into Pegosos but they won't let you go along and I have no one that would support me and join me. Exit international can assist with getting you a support person but of course they only support those 55+

 

[dropintheocean]

I've looked into Pegosos but they won't let you go along and I have no one that would support me and join me. Exit international can assist with getting you a support person but of course they only support those 55+

Are you dealing with dome physical illness? And that would be the cause to apply for vad?

 

[dropintheocean]

I have also looked into Dignitas due to the debilitating complications I have suffered due to medical practice after a surgery that has all but ended my life at 25.

According to their website, documentation of a diagnosis is part of the paperwork that is required to be included in a formal request for the preparation of an accompanied suicide:

Hi Mors! Did you apply to some vad clinic or going to if I may ask? You know anyone who went there? Thanks!

Dignitas is a whole different procedure and most people get rejected. Many people I know have used other means for their peaceful exit without going to Dignitas

Could you share about other peaceful means? I have bo idea what those could be..

 

[Tamara Tami]

I have also looked into Dignitas due to the debilitating complications I have suffered due to medical practice after a surgery that has all but ended my life at 25.

According to their website, documentation of a diagnosis is part of the paperwork that is required to be included in a formal request for the preparation of an accompanied suicide:

One or more up-to-date medical reports together with two or three older ones. These reports must provide substantial information on the case history, diagnosis, and - if possible - actual and suggested treatment / measures as well as prognosis. The most recent report must not be more than three to four months old, and all reports must be clearly legible. Pictures, such as x-ray films etc., and laboratory analyses should not be included.

interesting, can i ask who tell you this information? it was pegasos?