Landlords are terrible people

[WoAiGou]

My god, these leeches, these fucking parasites. I recently had to move for work, and this new apartment is causing me so much grief. All because this landleech is so lazy, he makes me look like a productive member of society. Why are landlords still a thing? Can anyone justify this capitalist madness?

 

[JustAMatterOfTime]

Yes I find it questionable at best making your money by owning someone else's home that you lend to them, I suppose all investments are sort of like this though.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

My god, these leeches, these fucking parasites. I recently had to move for work, and this new apartment is causing me so much grief. All because this landleech is so lazy, he makes me look like a productive member of society. Why are landlords still a thing? Can anyone justify this capitalist madness?

My dog chewed a small but noticeable hole in the carpet of my old apartment. When I moved out the rental company charged me over $350 because of it, even though they are required to change out the carpet after each tenet, if the tenant has lived there more than 3 years. They charged me money even though they were going to rip out all the carpet anyway. It was bullshit.

 

[WoAiGou]

My dog chewed a small but noticeable hole in the carpet of my old apartment. When I moved out the rental company charged me over $350 because of it, even though they are required to change out the carpet after each tenet, if the tenant has lived there more than 3 years. They charged me money even though they were going to rip out all the carpet anyway. It was bullshit.

Lmao how do they sleep at night?

 

[lostundead]

Yep let's give all property to the goverment and ask them nicely to distribute it fairly. That's a much better idea.

I really don't understand this revolutionary attitude. Just because there is a lack of reforms that allows landlords to be assholes doesn't mean we should abolish the concept alltogether.

 

[WoAiGou]

Yep let's give all property to the goverment and ask them nicely to distribute it fairly. That's a much better idea.

I really don't understand this revolutionary attitude. Just because there is a lack of reforms that allows landlords to be assholes doesn't mean we should abolish the concept alltogether.

Lol let's have a million homeless people and 6 million vacant houses. The free market totally makes sense.

Revolutionary attitude = housing should be provided to everyone. lol. No, it's just basic decency and a requirement of a healthy functioning society.

 

[edu0z]

Lol let's have a million homeless people and 6 million vacant houses. The free market totally makes sense.

Revolutionary attitude = housing should be provided to everyone. lol. No, it's just basic decency and a requirement of a healthy functioning society.

In fact, it is the free market that is the only one capable of solving this, the problem comes when the State imposes measures that limit the construction of private companies. If you don't believe me just look at California, it's the state with the most people living on the street, why? because the California government does not allow the Construction Companies that you hate so much, to supply the demand for houses and therefore the property is so expensive and many people can not afford it. However Tokyo, after the Second World War in 1960, removed all restrictions so that any could be built, and is currently the city with the most people in the world and has literally 0 homeless people.... For the next one, I recommend you to document yourself before letting yourself be carried away by the "Socialist Revolutionaries" and their hypocritical morality

 

[WoAiGou]

In fact, it is the free market that is the only one capable of solving this, the problem comes when the State imposes measures that limit the construction of private companies. If you don't believe me just look at California, it's the state with the most people living on the street, why? because the California government does not allow the Construction Companies that you hate so much, to supply the demand for houses and therefore the property is so expensive and many people can not afford it. However Tokyo, after the Second World War in 1960, removed all restrictions so that any could be built, and is currently the city with the most people in the world and has literally 0 homeless people.... For the next one, I recommend you to document yourself before letting yourself be carried away by the "Socialist Revolutionaries" and their hypocritical morality

Lol you have absolutely zero idea what you're talking about. Look at housing and homeless statistics in actual past and present socialist states (China, Cuba, Vietnam, DPRK, Laos, USSR, Yugoslavia). If you think that the free market is the only thing that can handle the housing crisis we face you are wholly uneducated.

If people are living hand to mouth, which homeless people are, as are many who are housed, it doesn't matter what construction companies do. You solve homelessness by housing people and giving them decent paying jobs so they can stand on two feet.

 

[Sherri]

Yes they are, my last one, before I bought my own house, was a nightmare to give me my 3000 deposit back, tried to find scratches and things that already were there, dispicable people. And always trying to evict people who are only a few weeks behind. Shame on them.

 

[Fragile]

It's probably a cultural thing. I've never had to deal with a terrible landlord in my country and all I see is young people from the US complaining about how bad the situation is, which is understandable given the obscene prices in some states.

But even then, I don't see a reason why other people should be forced to indirectly pay someone else's rent, and maybe some problems can be solved without inciting a literal revolution lol.

 

[Julgran]

Well, isn't the problem that the landlords take loans from a bank, which is the reason they need to get payments from their tenants? If the landlords didn't exist, you would need to take that loan from the bank. Living will never be free or cheap - unless you can buy land.

 

[edu0z]

Lol you have absolutely zero idea what you're talking about. Look at housing and homeless statistics in actual past and present socialist states (China, Cuba, Vietnam, DPRK, Laos, USSR, Yugoslavia). If you think that the free market is the only thing that can handle the housing crisis we face you are wholly uneducated.

If people are living hand to mouth, which homeless people are, as are many who are housed, it doesn't matter what construction companies do. You solve homelessness by housing people and giving them decent paying jobs so they can stand on two feet.

OK, Disney fantasies aside... I live in a socialist country, Cuba, and I can tell you that what you see in the rest of the world about our country, and the statistics, are all false... It's exactly the same with China. Second, imagine that the state would give free housing and jobs to all people regardless of their contribution to society or their demand in the labor market, how long do you think it would take civilization to collapse?

Here in Cuba, and all socialist countries, the living situation of citizens is a complete hell (The same with China, only that China no longer has a socialist economy, in 1986 they began to implement a free market capitalist economy, and that is how they have become what they are today)

 

[StarryStarry]

Lmao how do they sleep at night?

Lmao how do they sleep at night?

With your money under their pillow.

 

[WoAiGou]

OK, Disney fantasies aside... I live in a socialist country, Cuba, and I can tell you that what you see in the rest of the world about our country, and the statistics, are all false... It's exactly the same with China. Second, imagine that the state would give free housing and jobs to all people regardless of their contribution to society or their demand in the labor market, how long do you think it would take civilization to collapse?

Here in Cuba, and all socialist countries, the living situation of citizens is a complete hell (The same with China, only that China no longer has a socialist economy, in 1986 they began to implement a free market capitalist economy, and that is how they have become what they are today)

The majority of the world which is run by capitalists says Cuba is a failed state. I'm saying it's not, and I'm saying your country's low homeless rate should be applauded. Why exactly are you an authority on China? China is absolutely socialist, socialism is worker ownership of means of production either directly or through a state apparatus, the CPC represents the workers in China, and they have seen to consistent standard of living increases for average working class people. The CPC at any moment can take over any private corporation, CPC members are required to be on the board for any company over a certain size. I wish we could trade places, I'd willing live in Cuba where there is some degree of social cohesion rather than this free market hell.

And news flash, civilization is already collapsing, because the world has been dictated by capitalist forces for hundreds of years, prioritizing plundering the globe and destroying the environment to enrich a small percent of humanity.

 

[StarryStarry]

I agree. Most are just leeches. I moved into a place that was privately owned. There was black mold in the house - you could smell it - it made me pretty sick. He kept telling me that there was no mold - went on for months - then he finally got somebody in there and guess what they found - yup BLACK MOLD. I moved out shortly after. Dumb ass all about the money.

 

[edu0z]

The majority of the world which is run by capitalists says Cuba is a failed state. I'm saying it's not, and I'm saying your country's low homeless rate should be applauded. Why exactly are you an authority on China? China is absolutely socialist, socialism is worker ownership of means of production either directly or through a state apparatus, the CPC represents the workers in China, and they have seen to consistent standard of living increases for average working class people. The CPC at any moment can take over any private corporation, CPC members are required to be on the board for any company over a certain size. I wish we could trade places, I'd willing live in Cuba where there is some degree of social cohesion rather than this free market hell.

And news flash, civilization is already collapsing, because the world has been dictated by capitalist forces for hundreds of years, prioritizing plundering the globe and destroying the environment to enrich a small percent of humanity.

Sorry, I didn't want to destroy your expectations... I feel very guilty... but here in Cuba we ALL hate the country, I do not know a single person who wants to live on the island and everyone would leave at the slightest opportunity to do so. If you believe that a country, a country that lets its people starve to death for simple "REVOLUTIONARY SOCIALIST PRIDE" is worth it, then I am afraid that I have nothing to debate with you, you are too blinded by your ideals and you do not see reality.

And I don't know where you got those things... but I am an economist, and China has had a free market capitalist economy since 1986... you don't even have to go to a university to find out, you can do a quick google search and ready

 

[Judah]

Nomad here, it is quite exhausting to go from house to house, with uncertainty, sometimes you are well received, other times not, it seems that my goal of buying a house is quite far from being fulfilled

 

[WoAiGou]

Sorry, I didn't want to destroy your expectations... I feel very guilty... but here in Cuba we ALL hate the country, I do not know a single person who wants to live on the island and everyone would leave at the slightest opportunity to do so. If you believe that a country, a country that lets its people starve to death for simple "REVOLUTIONARY SOCIALIST PRIDE" is worth it, then I am afraid that I have nothing to debate with you, you are too blinded by your ideals and you do not see reality.

And I don't know where you got those things... but I am an economist, and China has had a free market capitalist economy since 1986... you don't even have to go to a university to find out, you can do a quick google search and ready

Come to America, our country let's people starve to death and freeze on the streets and die of preventable disease just so imaginary numbers on a computer screen can go up.



Since your anecdotes mean so much, here's America's view of China government.

Actually look into CPC's control over the economy, CPC has total control. Your confusing utilizing markets under a socialist government with being free market capitalist. Private enterprise does not dictate how China is run, The CPC which represents the workers, does.

Deng opened up China to reform in the 80s bc China was at a crossroads as they saw The USSR collapsing before their eyes. They could try to survive on their own, and possibly go down the route of the USSR, or they could open up their economy, invite in the western capitalists, bide their time and make the world dependent on them. Pretty genius plan considering America, the most bloodthirsty war mongering country can't attack China since the global economy is dependent on them.

 

[Grey-zoner]

In fact, it is the free market that is the only one capable of solving this...

I wouldn't say any of the current -isms have done a good job at solving housing. Communist housing is not great, and in developed capitalist countries pricing is extremely high, and also sometimes substandard (there being the obvious incentive to make a bigger profit). These isms are not concerned with your well-being: communism kills for ideology, and capitalism out of stunning indifference and the profit motive.
I think making basic housing a right makes much more sense than the current hardscrabble system we have, much like public education and basic universal healthcare. If society doesn't collapse, I see this as a very likely outcome, and future generations will look back on the defense of the current status quo as laughable.
The 40 hour workweek was progressive after all, in 1945, along with not beating your wife or sending homosexuals to "therapy". A lot's changed since then, and still remains to be changed for the better. I think too many people suffer from a lack of imagination that things can be improved, and progress is measured by the yardstick of GDP growth per annum.

 

[edu0z]

I wouldn't say any of the current -isms have done a good job at solving housing. Communist housing is not great, and in developed capitalist countries pricing is extremely high, and also sometimes substandard (there being the obvious incentive to make a bigger profit). These isms are not concerned with your well-being: communism kills for ideology, and capitalism out of stunning indifference and the profit motive.
I think making basic housing a right makes much more sense than the current hardscrabble system we have, much like public education and basic universal healthcare. If society doesn't collapse, I see this as a very likely outcome, and future generations will look back on the defense of the current status quo as laughable.
The 40 hour workweek was progressive after all, in 1945, along with not beating your wife or sending homosexuals to "therapy". A lot's changed since then, and still remains to be changed for the better. I think too many people suffer from a lack of imagination that things can be improved, and progress is measured by the yardstick of GDP growth per annum.

People have the false belief that capitalist countries do not care about their habitants, when in fact it is usually the opposite... after all, although it is a very prostituted system, it is still a democracy. You can google how much public money the Government of California has allocated to solve the problem of homeless people living on the street (as I said before, it is the US state with more people like that) and you will see that they are billions of dollars. Why hasn't this been fixed? because the construction price is very expensive. and why is it expensive? is it for the free market? NO, it's because of the government and the people. In California there are too many residential areas where people refuse to let companies build buildings (Constructions that can house more people) and therefore the government, being a democracy, it must respect the right of the people who live there to decide and does not allow new companies to build homes... the demand for houses increases and therefore houses become more expensive. Now tell me, who caused the problea? The capitalist market or the selfishness of the people and the government?.

 

[WoAiGou]

People have the false belief that capitalist countries do not care about their habitants, when in fact it is usually the opposite... after all, although it is a very prostituted system, it is still a democracy. You can google how much public money the Government of California has allocated to solve the problem of homeless people living on the street (as I said before, it is the US state with more people like that) and you will see that they are billions of dollars. Why hasn't this been fixed? because the construction price is very expensive. and why is it expensive? is it for the free market? NO, it's because of the government and the people. In California there are too many residential areas where people refuse to let companies build buildings (Constructions that can house more people) and therefore the government, being a democracy, it must respect the right of the people who live there to decide and does not allow new companies to build homes... the demand for houses increases and therefore houses become more expensive. Now tell me, who caused the problea? The capitalist market or the selfishness of the people and the government?.

How is the USA a democracy? Because we can vote for two corporate approved candidates? This country is a dictatorship of the ruling class. You keep talking about construction prices, the houses to house the homeless already exist, but we are so entrenched in capitalist dogma that the solution of seizing unused assets for the good of the whole is seen as 'revolutionary'.

It seems your definition of democracy is fuck you got mine. What a healthy society your ideals have produced.

 

[edu0z]

How is the USA a democracy? Because we can vote for two corporate approved candidates? This country is a dictatorship of the ruling class. You keep talking about construction prices, the houses to house the homeless already exist, but we are so entrenched in capitalist dogma that the solution of seizing unused assets for the good of the whole is seen as 'revolutionary'.

It seems your definition of democracy is fuck you got mine. What a healthy society your ideals have produced.

Today's democracy sucks, not just America's. I am an economist, not a politician... I never told you what my ideals were, you did that and I just told you the reality. The market doesn't care about socialism or capitalism. Because the market predates all politics, it exists since man is man and will continue to exist regardless of the type of government that is implemented in the future.

 

[OceanBlue]

@WoAiGou

Sorry, but how can you:

1. Justify oppression because you think it reduces homelessness (also never trust marxist-leninist stats).
2. Favour one oppression (M-L) over another (capitalism)?
3. Where do you get confidence to argue with a person who is living under these circumstances and who says you got it wrong?

 

[WoAiGou]

Sorry, but how can you:

1. Justify oppression because you think it reduces homelessness (also never trust marxist-leninist stats).
2. Favour one oppression (M-L) over another (capitalism)?
3. Where do you get confidence to argue with a person who is living under these circumstances and who says you got it wrong?

1) there's oppression everywhere, in every system, in every country, Marxism-Leninism is objectively less oppressive and destructive than capitalism. Look at the state of the world, we are staring down the barrel of climate collapse as a result of capitalist enforced hegemony following WW2. Look at ML states prior to the revolutions and afterwards, standard of living increases, literacy rates, infant mortality. All improve. Whose stats are to be trusted?
2) I favor communism over capitalism because the former is actually concerned with meeting people's basic needs while the latter prioritizes profit. Again look at the state of the world. Capitalism destroyed everything.
3)What did that person say I got wrong about Cuba, Cuba has notoriously high home ownership and low homelessness, this was never refuted. Besides you could say the same thing to their posts about the free market while I live in the USA and can attest first hand how cruel it is. But anecdotes shouldn't be the be all end all. Why are you targeting me about this and not the other person?

 

[OceanBlue]

I asked questions because tankies don't understand that they would have zero rights under the oppression they glamorise.

Here I mean ussr, since you mentioned it: you'd have basic food items, utilities, a room probably, alcohol to keep you entertained and you would be forced into labor, most likely industrial factory work, you wouldn't be able to choose what you read, write, create, you wouldn't be able to organise or attend any protests, you wouldn't be able to freely consume foreign material or travel outside the regime. You would not be able to resell anything, have no access to any social justice material and would always have to be careful about what you say.

There was no maternity leave or pay, many kids attended week-long kindergartens. You'd go to school and be fully indoctrinated into propaganda. You can imagine what happened to the generations that grew up within it - they did not develop the ability to think independently, but absorbed all kinds of bigotry (and often alcoholism). You seem to think there was no hierarchy there, some people benefited more than others, they were hugely corrupt structures. I don't support landlords and agree that capitalism is oppressive, but compared to ussr - it's still liberating.

People who are socialists understand that 'that communism wasn't real Communism' at least, but tankies are usually arrogant privileged westerners who have no idea how much suffering and dehumanisation occurred inside it. And they still dare to argue with people who have first-hand or intergenerational trauma.

 

[Luchs]

My god, these leeches, these fucking parasites. I recently had to move for work, and this new apartment is causing me so much grief. All because this landleech is so lazy, he makes me look like a productive member of society. Why are landlords still a thing? Can anyone justify this capitalist madness?

Because the alternative would be the givernment seizing all land from private ownership and many people wouldn't like that.

 

[WoAiGou]

I asked questions because tankies don't understand that they would have zero rights under the oppression they glamorise.

Here I mean ussr, since you mentioned it: you'd have basic food items, utilities, a room probably, alcohol to keep you entertained and you would be forced into labor, most likely industrial factory work, you wouldn't be able to choose what you read, write, create, you wouldn't be able to organise or attend any protests, you wouldn't be able to freely consume foreign material or travel outside the regime. You would not be able to resell anything, have no access to any social justice material and would alway have to be careful about what you say.

There was no maternity leave or pay, many kids attended week-long kindergartens. You'd go to school and be fully indoctrinated into propaganda. You can imagine what happened to the generations that grew up within it - they did not develop the ability to think independently, but absorbed all kinds of bigotry (and often alcoholism). You seem to think there was no hierarchy there, some people benefited more than others, they were hugely corrupt structures. I don't support landlords and agree that capitalism is oppressive, but compared to ussr - it's still liberating.

People who are socialists understand that 'that communism wasn't real Communism' at least, but tankies are usually arrogant privileged westerners who have no idea how much suffering and dehumanisation occurred inside it. And they still dare to argue with people who have first-hand or intergenerational trauma.

No maternity leave, a simple Google search yields dozens of sources contradicting you. Here's one

Aid for Mothers and Children

Increased Aid for Mothers and Children and Changes in the Divorce Laws. July 8, 1944 Original Source: Vedomosti, No. 37 (1944). The Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR has issued an …

soviethistory.msu.edu

so if you are blatantly wrong/lying about that, what else are you wrong and lying about?

Bigotry of course existed in the Soviet Union, but to deny the progress they made is absurd. Go read about Paul Robesons travels to the Soviet Union, he felt human for the first time there. Are his anecdotes meaningless to you?

You're regurgitating so much Cold War era red scare nonsense.

Read this book please

https://valleysunderground.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/blackshirts-and-reds-by-michael-parenti.pdf

You do that and I'll discuss whatever you want, but I was exactly where you were 5ish years ago, thinking tankie/ML states bad and not real socialism, I was a fool then and you are being ignorant now. The US state department has spent 70 years lying about these countries and doing every thing to destabilize them, why are you doing their dirty work for them?

What system you advocate for? You take issue with being given a house, food, healthcare, a job? What is it you want lol? I live in capitalist USA you know what my freedoms are? To work jobs I hate or go homeless and starve.

Because the alternative would be the givernment seizing all land from private ownership and many people wouldn't like that.

Good

 

[Luchs]

No maternity leave, a simple Google search yields dozens of sources contradicting you. Here's one

Aid for Mothers and Children

Increased Aid for Mothers and Children and Changes in the Divorce Laws. July 8, 1944 Original Source: Vedomosti, No. 37 (1944). The Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR has issued an …

soviethistory.msu.edu

so if you are blatantly wrong/lying about that, what else are you wrong and lying about?

Bigotry of course existed in the Soviet Union, but to deny the progress they made is absurd. Go read about Paul Robesons travels to the Soviet Union, he felt human for the first time there. Are his anecdotes meaningless to you?

You're regurgitating so much Cold War era red scare nonsense.

Read this book please

https://valleysunderground.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/blackshirts-and-reds-by-michael-parenti.pdf

You do that and I'll discuss whatever you want, but I was exactly where you were 5ish years ago, thinking tankie/ML states bad and not real socialism, I was a fool then and you are being ignorant now. The US state department has spent 70 years lying about these countries and doing every thing to destabilize them, why are you doing their dirty work for them?

What system you advocate for? You take issue with being given a house, food, healthcare, a job? What is it you want lol? I live in capitalist USA you know what my freedoms are? To work jobs I hate or go homeless and starve.

Good

Do you actually want neo-feudalism where you live in a house owned by the king/state and work the king's fields and give the king the vast majority of the fruits of your labor?

Also, life in Eastern Bloc countries was in no means that much better than in Western countries. It wad better in some aspects and worse in others, and the fact that your biggest grievance with the USSR is that there was still bigotry shows that you don't really understand the issues at hand.

Since the USSR is a very loaded subject and I am more familiar eith it, let's talk about the DDR. I have relatives that lived there and from what they told me and things I have read in books I can definetly tell you that it wasn't a paradise. One thing my grandfathet always praises about the DDR was the education system and the engagement of the public in sports. Most people there were physically healthy and in good shape, the education had a very high standard, higher than in most Western countries. But the education in terms of recent history and politucs was complete indoctrination. I once read an East German history book on WW2 and it was some of the most skewed literature on history I have ever read.

The economy was very problematic. The pkanned economy was great for quickly building up industry, but was too inflexible to sustain a healthy supply chain. If you wanted your child to have a car when they turned 18 you needed to order the car while they were still toddlers to get it on time.

Then you had the Stasi. Their job was to sniff out any descent and snuff it out. They were often civilians, spying on their fellow citizens. You said something that wasn't towing the party line in public? Now you have your own personalized stalker that depending on the severity of the remarks you made stalks you, creates a dossier on your daily routine, personality and the people you associate with and bugs your house. If they catch you listening to Western propaganda have fun in jail and/or performing hard labor.

If you believr it is only fascists and capitalist fat cats that need to worry about being hit by the hammer of the law you are mistaken too. Look at Trotzky, though in his case instead of the hammer of the law he was hit by the ice pick of an assassin. Trotzky was a revolutionary, a man of the first hour, a true socialist, a genetal of the revolutionary war, but he was a threat to Stalin, so he was killed. While you might not be murdered outright you'll be gangstalked, imprisoned or ostracized for dissenting by believing in a slightly different flavor of leftist doctrine than they do or for seemingly doing nithing at all.

While I also had the neoliberal capitalist globohomo state the Western world is in now, I don't think authoritarian socialist reform is what the people need right now. Because despite all the great advances of the East, look at how happy and eager people were to leave once the iron curtain separating Europe fell.

 

[OceanBlue]

Have you read yourself what you linked to me?

It mostly concerns large families (that soviets encouraged bc they needed to maintain the masses) and unmarried women.

And regarding maternity leave is this: "To increase maternity leaves for women factory workers and office employees from 63 to 77 calendar days (35 days before and 42 days after childbirth), with payment during this period of the State allowance in the amounts fixed heretofore. In the event of an abnormal birth or the birth of twins, post-natal leave is to be extended to 56 calendar days."

That is called nothing and that's why women that rememeber living through it always call it nothing (35 days before and 42 days after childbirth). And there was a singlehood tax that was forced on people if they were unmarried past certain age. It was full control.

What you're saying.. you'd prefer giving up all your (albeit imperfect) freedoms for basic food and accommodation and be content to be used up for labour that would mostly benefit the leaders (your life would stay the same).

You're another arrogant privileged USA person who googles info about ussr in English and wishes they could have lived there.

Edit: to explain the single tax: it applies to unmarried men and married women who did not have children and heavily weighted on people both morally and financially.

Even has some info in English

Tax on childlessness - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[WoAiGou]

Have you read yourself what you linked to me?

It mostly concerns large families (that soviets encouraged bc they needed to maintain the masses) and unmarried women.

And regarding maternity leave is this: "To increase maternity leaves for women factory workers and office employees from 63 to 77 calendar days (35 days before and 42 days after childbirth), with payment during this period of the State allowance in the amounts fixed heretofore. In the event of an abnormal birth or the birth of twins, post-natal leave is to be extended to 56 calendar days."
That is called nothing and that's why women that rememeber living through it always call it nothing. And there was a singlehood tax that was forced on people if they were unmarried past certain age. It was full control.

What you're saying.. you'd prefer giving up all your (albeit imperfect) freedoms for basic food and accommodation and be content to be used up for labour that would mostly benefit the leaders (your life would stay the same).

You're another arrogant privileged USA person who googles info about ussr in English and wishes they could have lived there.

Have you read yourself what you linked to me?

It mostly concerns large families (that soviets encouraged bc they needed to maintain the masses) and unmarried women.

And regarding maternity leave is this: "To increase maternity leaves for women factory workers and office employees from 63 to 77 calendar days (35 days before and 42 days after childbirth), with payment during this period of the State allowance in the amounts fixed heretofore. In the event of an abnormal birth or the birth of twins, post-natal leave is to be extended to 56 calendar days."

That is called nothing and that's why women that rememeber living through it always call it nothing. And there was a singlehood tax that was forced on people if they were unmarried past certain age. It was full control.

What you're saying.. you'd prefer giving up all your (albeit imperfect) freedoms for basic food and accommodation and be content to be used up for labour that would mostly benefit the leaders (your life would stay the same).

You're another arrogant privileged USA person who googles info about ussr in English and wishes they could have lived there.

2 months maternity leave in 1944 is nothing? Your op said there was no maternity leave, you lied lol.

Yes I'd be 100% fine with living in a socially cohesive society that supplied me with basic needs. Especially if my government wasn't utilizing imperialism and exploitation to supply me with said basic needs. Again what is your ideal society?

Read the book I linked, or just keep hurling insults. I don't care.

Do you understand how many people the Soviet Union lost during WW2? You're such an idealist. I'm antinatalist as well but not so ignorant to criticize Natalist policies 80 years ago especially in the circumstances that the USSR went through. But I'm the privileged one. You're ignorant of history and a phony radical.