Sanctioned Suicide is a forum for discussion of suicide. Most notably, it does not shy away from offering advice on how to kill yourself, and it assumes all participants are adults 18 years or older. For example, here's how to kill yourself with inert gas: source (a) And the classic, hanging...
kiwifarms.net
Kiwi farms..
Kiwi Farms!?
Kiwi fucking Farms is the last site on planet earth that has any ground to stand on when it comes to pointing the finger.
I'd be willing to bet that they have been responsible for plenty of suicides themselves.
(I think this may be an already documented fact.)
The whole point of that site is basically to make fun of people to the extent that the subject becomes an underground celebrity..where said celebrity reputation is built primarily upon humiliation.
In fact, during this whole Tanatcrul debacle, THAT was the site that came to my mind when thinking "Why is this place getting so much heat, when something like [blank] is still allowed to exist!?!?"
KF is one of the most vile, reprehensible, juvenile, trollish and eyebrow raising places on the internet.
Full of pathetic bullies that resemble some sort of heinous intersection between unnecessarily mean, edgy 12 year olds and your unfriendly, neighborhood busybody who loves to gossip.
I'm sure the random curious netizen makes their way onto that site every now and then without ill intentions, but from what I've seen there in my time..it's primarily full of rot.
Honestly, Kiwifarms is really good when it comes to research in general. Nice that both sides are being talked about there.
They are. But it's almost never a good thing there.
Are both sides being talked about?
I would rather not step foot in that place during my remaining time here.
Kiwi Farms' content is entirely legal. That what was so annoying for its detractors whom have been trying to deplatform them: they couldn't point to anything illegal, they had to rely of bullying service providers to deplatform and carrying out DDoS campaigns. It wasn't taken down because of content, but due to spiteful detractors, and cowardice on the part of internet services providers who collaborate with those detractors. Cloudflare, for one, outright lied about their reasons for deplatforming.
Judging from that Kiwi Farms thread, this site has experienced similar bullcrap. I did not know that, but that makes sense.
The section on Tantacrul is fantastic. What an self-righteous jerk that guy is. He really showed his true nature in how abusive he was with members here.
Comparing this place to KF..even in bull crap received..is downright insulting and blasphemous towards SaSu.
(This is coming from someone who is also fully aware of the controversial origins of this place.)
KF actually deserves that shit.
Legality is besides the point when it comes to their shenanigans.
Would not be surprised if some of their subjects have found their way here.
Last time I stumbled upon Kiwi hell was during that whole 'CWC/Janke' situation that ended up on YT and Reddit (and they kept referencing KF).
Someone my age really shouldn't even be privy to this childish garbage, but it's the internet and everything gets around..I regret ever looking further into whatever the hell that even was and learning anything about either of those people. Embarrassing.
Lost even more faith in humanity, from every single angle of that narrative.
Even that shit show had its seeds planted via extreme measures of bullying an easy target.
i browse a lot of KF at times.
My condolences.
While I don't agree with the misgendering, KF and SaSu aren't so different. They suffer from such a bad reputation but actually do a lot for the cause of free speech. If you're ever bored, browse the old KF Holly Dance thread, about the right to pull the plug on a brain-dead child whose mother was parading him around like some sort of decaying flesh puppet. The Farms were p much the only place offering a true, balanced viewpoint.
They do some good work too - shout out the Million Pity thread on paid monkey torture. They're actively taking down those responsible (obv don't read if you can't deal with animal abuse).
If their content is the result of fighting for the cause of free speech..then I am speechless.
And careful, they do much more harm than good and these sorts of compliments only encourage them.
I've not seen anyone on there with pure intentions, I have however seen a plethora of "we hurt you and humiliate you because we want to help you" snips of discourse and rhetoric.
You really have to be beyond naive and loose with the benefit of the doubt to believe that KF is here for the greater good.
Coming to this post i was thinking to myself, oh boy here we go again. I'm plesently surprised by this, they took a very honest approach to this website. Give them credit even though i despise them.
I'll have to take your word for it.
I don't want to revisit that place, maybe more people will post the appropriate commentary here (from there).
Not sure what good it will do since most of the people who need their minds changed about SaSu are not going to visit KF to read the thread or even know about its existence.
Me neither. To be frank, I couldn't give less of a shit about what happens to anyone on here (wirh the exception of maybe a handful). You are all strangers. Your suffering means norhing to me. If that makes me a terrible human being, so be it. But at least I don't go around and pretend otherwise in order to farm social status and use it to push some bullshit Pro-Mortalist ideology down the throats vulnerable people-- with immunity(!).
Noted.
Just don't expect to get what you don't give.
Although it may happen anyway, some people on here are generous while seeming to pull such generosity out of thin air, considering how barren and miserable their existence may be.
I think even when it's difficult to empathize or give a damn, in a place like this, if we are going to engage, then we should at least
try.
But sure, do any of us care as much as we should? Likely not.
(As you suggested, being fake about it is no better.)
We are probably too busy giving damns about our own living nightmares.
For many here, we are all our own selves have, so we don't have much left to give, when it all has to be turned inward in order to survive until the day we end things.
