
Moonlight Tears
I will put the fire out with my tears.
- Jun 15, 2022
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Has anyone ever attempted this method? If so what was it like and did you experience delirium? If you experienced delirium what was that like?
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It isn't the most comfortable choice but it should work if done correctly.Sorry I haven't tried this ( although I think I've been close numerous times by being out in the blazing heat and drinking mass amounts of alcohol with no / little water like an idiot )
But I'd think.... This is the Wrong way to try and CTB. Sounds so Fckn excruciating and time consuming to get the Ending result. Please rethink this if possible,. Wishing you the best in whatever may happen. -.
Were you freaked out?i laid in bed for 3 days and didnt eat or drink out of laziness and all that happened was my forehead got wrinkles from dehydration and i started seeing my phone in places where its obviously not.
I went basically 3 weeks without eating but like a day without drinking lol. It was so difficult. Did you ever experience delirium or hallucinations while you were doing it?I went five days without drinking anything (or eating). It wasn't painful. Yes, I was thirsty, but my imagination helped me with that. Your imagination will help with cravings. I imagined my next drink in heaven: putting an ice pik in a glacier and this nice cool lime flavored stream pouring out. I could taste the lime drink and it was great. I was looking forward to Heaven, (Home) so much. I only was able to do five days because of my environmental factors. I was homeless, and living under a freeway bridge. The mosquitos and the hard cement made it impossible to continue. I was covered, and I mean completely covered in mosquito bites from head to toe. It looked like I had a disease. So I had to stop, and I was admitted into a hospital. But the five days was not painful at all. Like I said, my imagination helped because I was imagining the REAL drinks that I would have in Heaven. Doing VSED (which you are essentially doing) is my backup plan if SN doesn't work. In order to do VSED I'm going to have to have to have people like my therapist understand that this is my choice....otherwise they'll just put me in the hospital again. My SN better not fucking fail.
How hard could it be? No fluids for x amount of DayZ, then collapse u go go. Course u still have food to consider with this route as most contain water unless I want to live off from nuts and such.It isn't the most comfortable choice but it should work if done correctly.
No I didn't experience delirium or hallucinations. My imagination just ran wild with all of the different flavored drinks I could drink.I went basically 3 weeks without eating but like a day without drinking lol. It was so difficult. Did you ever experience delirium or hallucinations while you were doing it?
So it made you disoriented or detached from reality? Did you feel like you could've went on with it until you died?Were you just too weak to walk?I completely checked out from reality for a couple weeks, I wasn't doing much of anything except lying in bed staring vacantly at the wall, or crying. I can't really remember how long exactly for that I didn't eat or drink but I was only really moving to get up and feed the cats. I think around the 4th-5th day I couldn't walk anymore. My legs stopped working, I was dizzy with minimal movement and everything was kind of a blur.
I don't think it's easy to pass from VSED, maybe it speeds up the process if you are actually using energy (I wasn't, I was just a ball of immobile misery). Also how hot the environment is adding to dehydration. It's not quick either. I don't remember feeling hunger or thirst but then I wasn't feeling much of anything. Starting body weight and physical health effects how long it takes too but it can take a long time, I think, and eventually for me a family member pretty much force fed me. Or maybe I had a glass of water when I freaked out that my legs weren't working. Is all fairly hazy in my memory.
I read up a lot on it and it seems like for those who are choosing it because of terminal illness, it's somewhat easier if they get their health practitioners on board with medications to keep them comfortable and supportive family who assist in bathing / bathroom stuff, else you'll end up lying for days in your own waste once strength wanes enough that your legs don't support you anymore. People have successfully ctb with VSED and these kinds of support, but I think without that it would be miserable and drawn out. It's definitely not a quick exit.
Without that, there is also the risk of involuntary hospitalisation to restore fluids / electrolytes / nutrition.
Also if you start eating / drinking again by choice there's a high risk of something called "refeeding syndrome" the longer you have been nil by mouth. I think there's even this risk with hospital IV after a certain point.
I think to do this alone would take extended period of time (2-3 weeks) where one is guaranteed not to be disturbed and also a significant amount of willpower. The accounts I read of success varied, from around 10 days to 3 weeks, and these were all people who had significant underlying health complications when they started. I think I had an idea that in max a week I'd just be dead but it's not so simple.
You tried to starve yourself until you died? What happened? I couldn't do it because it takes too long to die.Dehydration very unpleasant. Just uncomfortable. Getting close to death by starving makes me feel so peaceful and u get visions. I think that's why some religions fast. Really don't recommend dehydration unless your terminally ill in bed then you'd feel less pain from cessation.
Could be but if it worked they're not going to be here to say it did.Are there any examples of success not involving people who are extremely old or chronically ill?
Are there any examples of success not involving people who are extremely old or chronically ill?
I'm a little jealous
Nuts contain water. And dehydration is a hard way to go. Organ failure isn't instantaneous. It will be relatively slow and agonizing as kidneys shut down, the liver shuts down, poisons are circulating through your body, etc. You'll develop sores on your lips and in your mouth. It's not a pretty death, and by no means, a peaceful one.How hard could it be? No fluids for x amount of DayZ, then collapse u go go. Course u still have food to consider with this route as most contain water unless I want to live off from nuts and such.
I was stopped by family and hospitalized. I could've easily done it. I was doing Santhara. But I've always been good at fasting after 4 days I did not care. Also you could die from cal restriction just takes longer.You tried to starve yourself until you died? What happened? I couldn't do it because it takes too long to die.
Could be but if it worked they're not going to be here to say it did.
I was detached from reality before I started because of my mental state. It made me disorientated and extra foggy. I can only assume my legs gave out because of a combination of not actually using them and the fact my body had no fuel in it, or rather it had switched to using muscle mass as fuel and my electrolytes got all out of whack. Honestly I don't know that after a certain point I'd have had a choice in not continuing if left alone unless I managed to crawl from bed to the kitchen. For weeks after even when I started eating again my legs kept giving out randomly but I think that was the muscle degeneration (even though I'd started eating again, I still wasn't really eating more than about 200-500 calories a day, I just wasn't hungry, and the days were blurry so I'd go a day or two without drinking, then maybe have a glass of juice). But even small amounts of food and water can prolong the process. The body adjusts and starts feeding off other sources.So it made you disoriented or detached from reality? Did you feel like you could've went on with it until you died?Were you just too weak to walk?
So dehydrating yourself messed with your memory?I completely checked out from reality for a couple weeks, I wasn't doing much of anything except lying in bed staring vacantly at the wall, or crying. I can't really remember how long exactly for that I didn't eat or drink but I was only really moving to get up and feed the cats. I think around the 4th-5th day I couldn't walk anymore. My legs stopped working, I was dizzy with minimal movement and everything was kind of a blur.
I don't think it's easy to pass from VSED, maybe it speeds up the process if you are actually using energy (I wasn't, I was just a ball of immobile misery). Also how hot the environment is adding to dehydration. It's not quick either. I don't remember feeling hunger or thirst but then I wasn't feeling much of anything. Starting body weight and physical health effects how long it takes too but it can take a long time, I think, and eventually for me a family member pretty much force fed me. Or maybe I had a glass of water when I freaked out that my legs weren't working. Is all fairly hazy in my memory.
I read up a lot on it and it seems like for those who are choosing it because of terminal illness, it's somewhat easier if they get their health practitioners on board with medications to keep them comfortable and supportive family who assist in bathing / bathroom stuff, else you'll end up lying for days in your own waste once strength wanes enough that your legs don't support you anymore. People have successfully ctb with VSED and these kinds of support, but I think without that it would be miserable and drawn out. It's definitely not a quick exit.
Without that, there is also the risk of involuntary hospitalisation to restore fluids / electrolytes / nutrition.
Also if you start eating / drinking again by choice there's a high risk of something called "refeeding syndrome" the longer you have been nil by mouth. I think there's even this risk with hospital IV after a certain point.
I think to do this alone would take extended period of time (2-3 weeks) where one is guaranteed not to be disturbed and also a significant amount of willpower. The accounts I read of success varied, from around 10 days to 3 weeks, and these were all people who had significant underlying health complications when they started. I think I had an idea that in max a week I'd just be dead but it's not so simple.
What did it feel like being disoriented?I was detached from reality before I started because of my mental state. It made me disorientated and extra foggy. I can only assume my legs gave out because of a combination of not actually using them and the fact my body had no fuel in it, or rather it had switched to using muscle mass as fuel and my electrolytes got all out of whack. Honestly I don't know that after a certain point I'd have had a choice in not continuing if left alone unless I managed to crawl from bed to the kitchen. For weeks after even when I started eating again my legs kept giving out randomly but I think that was the muscle degeneration (even though I'd started eating again, I still wasn't really eating more than about 200-500 calories a day, I just wasn't hungry, and the days were blurry so I'd go a day or two without drinking, then maybe have a glass of juice). But even small amounts of food and water can prolong the process. The body adjusts and starts feeding off other sources.
I'm not so sure physiologically wise of exactly what goes on inside when we significantly restrict or completely stop intake of all food and water, but there can be many complications with liver and kidneys. Toxins in the body building up also cause further disorientation. Also read up on effects of electrolyte imbalance.
Essentially if a person stops eating and drinking yes, they will die, but it is slow. The accounts I read I admire the strength in those who made the decision and managed to follow through. They were all taking control of their own death rather than allowing their illnesses to take them over.
I guess when I thought it'd be a week to ten days I was thinking, I'm already suffering endlessly, what's 7-10 days of physical suffering if in the end there is peace. Reality is it can take a lot longer. I'm not sure I could have stuck it out without medication, especially if I'd gotten to the stage where I couldn't make it to the bathroom.
There is a thing called psychogenic death. At that point I think I was stage 3. It made not eating or drinking easy.
Did you feel weak and disoriented? If so what was that like?No I didn't experience delirium or hallucinations. My imagination just ran wild with all of the different flavored drinks I could drink.
I am planning this method. I have chosen a spot in desert in hot summer day, and I will take a few prescription sleeping pills and wait for heat to dehydrate me, possibly heatstroke.There were news of people died in desert without have access to water and food