Ketamine Infusions

[dust-in-the-wind]

Has anyone on here done ketamine infusions for major depression?. I'm supposed to have my 5th tomorrow. I am no better, actually worse and closer to ctb than ever. Dr tells me it's not possible to be worse from Ketamine.

 

[Average Joe]

No experience with it but I reckon your doctor doesn't understand the complexities involved with mental health.
Can I ask, what did you want to receive from the infusions?
Perhaps you had built your hopes up and ended up disappointed that nothing has changed which could be contributing further to you wanting to die.

There are a lot of studies done on this and it's not always as promising as newspapers say with their headlines "Ketamine miracles" or something else a bit bizarre. But here are some articles and the subreddit has information which might be more useful to you.

Failed response to repeat intravenous ketamine infusions in geriatric patients with Major Depressive Disorder - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Patients' recovery and non-recovery narratives after intravenous ketamine for treatment-resistant depression

Intravenous (IV) ketamine is an effective therapy for treatment-resistant depression. A large data base is confirmatory and steadily expanding. Qualit…

www.sciencedirect.com

There's also a subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/KetamineTherapy/

I'm truly sorry to hear that your body isn't responding in the way you and your doctor expected. I do wish you the best.

 

[divinemistress87]

Ya Ive done 12 of them didnt help. It was cool leaving my body for a bit though and yes some people feel worse from them before better or they dont help at all. Im proud of you for trying them. Have you at least experienced an ego death?

 

[tulero]

I think there is a nasal spray based in ketamine which offers good results

but the infusions you're talking have to be stronger than that

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

No experience with it but I reckon your doctor doesn't understand the complexities involved with mental health.
Can I ask, what did you want to receive from the infusions?
Perhaps you had built your hopes up and ended up disappointed that nothing has changed which could be contributing further to you wanting to die.

There are a lot of studies done on this and it's not always as promising as newspapers say with their headlines "Ketamine miracles" or something else a bit bizarre. But here are some articles and the subreddit has information which might be more useful to you.

Failed response to repeat intravenous ketamine infusions in geriatric patients with Major Depressive Disorder - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Patients' recovery and non-recovery narratives after intravenous ketamine for treatment-resistant depression

Intravenous (IV) ketamine is an effective therapy for treatment-resistant depression. A large data base is confirmatory and steadily expanding. Qualit…

www.sciencedirect.com

There's also a subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/KetamineTherapy/

I'm truly sorry to hear that your body isn't responding in the way you and your doctor expected. I do wish you the best.

Thank you for the links I will check them out. Dr told me 70% of people it helps with depression. Sucks I'm probably in the 30%. ECT failed me too.

Ya Ive done 12 of them didnt help. It was cool leaving my body for a bit though and yes some people feel worse from them before better or they dont help at all. Im proud of you for trying them. Have you at least experienced an ego death?

I was scared to try them but glad I did. It's a wild experience. I'm not sure if I experienced and ego death but I do feel like have died and just floating or melting into other realms. Hard to explain.

I think there is a nasal spray based in ketamine which offers good results

but the infusions you're talking have to be stronger than that

Yes the infusions are stronger for sure.
I chose that over the nasal spray as I am desperate.

 

[Bad Karma]

i have always wondered if ketamine could actually help someone whos in a really dark place or if its more like psychedelics, where going into it with a heavy mindset just leaves you the same or even worse. or maybe it is like hypnosis, where it only really works if you believe in it. if you dont mind me asking, how did you get an appointment to try it? did you need a referral from your GP or something?

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

i have always wondered if ketamine could actually help someone whos in a really dark place or if its more like psychedelics, where going into it with a heavy mindset just leaves you the same or even worse. or maybe it is like hypnosis, where it only really works if you believe in it. if you dont mind me asking, how did you get an appointment to try it? did you need a referral from your GP or something?

I'm in the USA. They have ketamine clinics. No referral necessary but you do have a consult with the Dr of the clinic first. Ketamine is a disasociative. It feels like you have left your body and your floating around all these different realms.

 

[Bad Karma]

I'm in the USA. They have ketamine clinics. No referral necessary but you do have a consult with the Dr of the clinic first. Ketamine is a disasociative. It feels like you have left your body and your floating around all these different realms.

oh interesting what did the consult look like? i have always wanted to try it. sounds peaceful.

 

[KillingPain267]

I'm doing street ket these last few days. It doesn't really do much, except it's fun. When I sober up from it I think what is there else to life now. Life is becoming boring to me and no drug can fix that feeling of meaninglessness, unfortunately.

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

oh interesting what did the consult look like? i have always wanted to try it. sounds peaceful.

Very basic consult. It was with a psychiatrist. He asked why I was here and I told them about my major depression and then he explained how ketamine worked and how it has a 70% success rate. Then asked if I had any questions. It is peaceful/euphoric to me when your under the effects. I don't want to come back.

 

[Higurashi415]

I'm doing street ket these last few days. It doesn't really do much, except it's fun. When I sober up from it I think what is there else to life now. Life is becoming boring to me and no drug can fix that feeling of meaninglessness, unfortunately.

man I really need to try K.
I hate snorting stuff tho

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

I'm doing street ket these last few days. It doesn't really do much, except it's fun. When I sober up from it I think what is there else to life now. Life is becoming boring to me and no drug can fix that feeling of meaninglessness, unfortunately.

I don't know how strong street ket is but under the IV ketamine I can't move or talk. It really potent stuff. I've also done oral ketamine that just gets you a little high, nothing compared to the IV.

 

[KillingPain267]

I don't know how strong street ket is but under the IV ketamine I can't move or talk. It really potent stuff. I've also done oral ketamine that just gets you a little high, nothing compared to the IV.

In high enough dose (insufflated) I experienced the same. I was frozen in my bathroom clinging to the sink for what felt like a day. Fun.