RainAndSadness
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- Jun 12, 2018
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So I watched another livestream with Philip Nitschke last night and one of the questions revolved around the legality of websites like Exit International, which has a very similar philosophy to SS. And that's quite relevant given the recent circumstances. Most of the pro-life crowd would probably claim that the content and events in this forum are illegal but according to my own research and Nitschkes claims in said livestream, that's not the case. Long story short: as long as a website only provides information, they're fine - either legal or in a grey area but not illegal by any means. That's how SS operates and that's a very clear green light. Websites however can get into trouble once they offer items or materials for the purpose of ending someones life.
Clear example:
Giving someone N (or any other substance) directly to someone, knowing they'll use it for the purpose of ending their own life, that's considered assisting and illegal in most countries.
Giving someone information on how to acquire N for themselves, telling them how to obtain N, that's not considered illegal and is safe for most places.
Obviously, that's not the case in all countries though. Switzerland, which is where I live, doesn't view the latter as a crime either, we can basically do whatever, as long as there is no malicious/selfish intent - for example, monetary gain. Right, Jackie? That's why assisted suicide isn't performed by doctors in Switzerland but by volunteers, literally everyone can do it. You'd obviously still have to make sure not to violate any drug laws, for example if you import N illegally, but then again there are many well-known methods that are very accessible and don't include breaking the laws, like salts and gasses. It's also the reason why the sarco device, designed by Exit International, will be used in Switzerland due to it's unique legislation towards assisted suicide (because giving someone means to end their life is legal here).
So, if someone of the social media crowd threatens legal actions, you generally don't have to worry even if you interacted with someone that left... yes, even if you showed them the right direction to their method. I'm pointing this out because there have been some people that accused us of illegal behavior and that's a false accusation. So once again, the angry mob has nothing but lies and slanders.
Here is a specific time stamp in which he talks about the legality of websites like Exit International. I recommend watching the full stream, well, actually, considering his strong right to die arguments, you should watch anything that has anything to do with Philip Nitschke.
Clear example:
Giving someone N (or any other substance) directly to someone, knowing they'll use it for the purpose of ending their own life, that's considered assisting and illegal in most countries.
Giving someone information on how to acquire N for themselves, telling them how to obtain N, that's not considered illegal and is safe for most places.
Obviously, that's not the case in all countries though. Switzerland, which is where I live, doesn't view the latter as a crime either, we can basically do whatever, as long as there is no malicious/selfish intent - for example, monetary gain. Right, Jackie? That's why assisted suicide isn't performed by doctors in Switzerland but by volunteers, literally everyone can do it. You'd obviously still have to make sure not to violate any drug laws, for example if you import N illegally, but then again there are many well-known methods that are very accessible and don't include breaking the laws, like salts and gasses. It's also the reason why the sarco device, designed by Exit International, will be used in Switzerland due to it's unique legislation towards assisted suicide (because giving someone means to end their life is legal here).
So, if someone of the social media crowd threatens legal actions, you generally don't have to worry even if you interacted with someone that left... yes, even if you showed them the right direction to their method. I'm pointing this out because there have been some people that accused us of illegal behavior and that's a false accusation. So once again, the angry mob has nothing but lies and slanders.
Here is a specific time stamp in which he talks about the legality of websites like Exit International. I recommend watching the full stream, well, actually, considering his strong right to die arguments, you should watch anything that has anything to do with Philip Nitschke.
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