Please don't jump. Every person who jumps will feel fear of death for a second before they hit the ground. I've felt the fear of death (assaulted by a group) and it's the most terrible feeling in the world. There are ways that are more peaceful and painless.
I would rather fall and fear the impact than suffer for minutes from a toxic drink or squeezed neck.
With the right positioning partial suspension will not hurt at all. Please don't try it if you are not planning to go.
True. Other methods can also be painless.
I won't.. you fixed me ;) Don't worry about others
Will jumping froom the 10th floor be enough? I live with my parents, going to any other building is not possible...
nightshade00
living just for dying
- Jan 24, 2023
- 86
I have been doing extensive research (both on and off SS) on jumping as a method of CTB. I wanted to revive this thread and add some information I've come across. I chose this thread because it was the oldest of the two jumping "megathreads" I found and this one had more views.
I know that jumping is neither precise nor foolproof, so it's not a method with strict guidelines and procedures like others. But with a megathread instead of everyone creating their own threads that get lost over time, people can get lots of info in one place.
lostallhope.com
This has probably been the most informative resource I've come across. It's worth a read. Here are some key takeaways:
This is an article covering the stories of survivors of jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge (GGB) and the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge. The article mostly focuses on the experience people had when they jumped. An interesting excerpt: "All the survivors described this experience as tranquil and peaceful. None of them experienced life events or distant memories passing through their minds or before their eyes." This contradicts the common anecdote I read of 'people regretting their choice as soon as they jump'.
This article focuses on the injuries sustained from suicide attempts by jumping and the lethality it has. Here are some details:
I can't find the information from the Geo Stone book that Arak mentioned above (the links aren't working for me). If anyone has access to this information, please share it here.
I know that jumping is neither precise nor foolproof, so it's not a method with strict guidelines and procedures like others. But with a megathread instead of everyone creating their own threads that get lost over time, people can get lots of info in one place.
Jumping off a high building | Lost All Hope: The web's leading suicide resource
Don't commit suicide without reading this site! Lost All Hope has information on everything from drugs and drop hanging to suicide statistics.
- "jumping from 150 feet (46 metres) or higher on land, and 250 feet (76 metres) or more on water, is 95% to 98% fatal"
- "anyone jumping on land should try and land on their head, as this maximises the chances of fatal head injuries"
- "Providing the jump is from sufficient height, certainty of death is very high. Jumping from insufficient height gives a fair chance of survival, with high probability of significant, and often long term, physical injury, plus possibly brain damage."
This is an article covering the stories of survivors of jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge (GGB) and the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge. The article mostly focuses on the experience people had when they jumped. An interesting excerpt: "All the survivors described this experience as tranquil and peaceful. None of them experienced life events or distant memories passing through their minds or before their eyes." This contradicts the common anecdote I read of 'people regretting their choice as soon as they jump'.
This article focuses on the injuries sustained from suicide attempts by jumping and the lethality it has. Here are some details:
- "if head and chest injuries occurred, the height fall required for 50% of patients to die was found to be 11 m" [11m is ~36ft]
- "If these injuries did not occur, the height fall required for 50% of patients to die increased to 22 m" [22m is ~72ft]
I can't find the information from the Geo Stone book that Arak mentioned above (the links aren't working for me). If anyone has access to this information, please share it here.
nightshade00
living just for dying
- Jan 24, 2023
- 86
Have you looked at Lost All Hope's page? Also, if you haven't already, the hanging megathread might have some people who could help.
Short drop/simple suspension | Lost All Hope: The web's leading suicide resource
Want to commit suicide? Read this site first! Lost All Hope has a vast array of information on everything from drugs and drop hanging to suicide statistics.
How to hang yourself
I just thought this information is better off here now, because the original source has been taken down. If this violates any rules or if the author doesn't want this information to be reproduced on other sites, the admins or mods are free to delete my thread. I hope you don't mind, this is very...
sanctioned-suicide.net
nightshade00
living just for dying
- Jan 24, 2023
- 86
I found a PDF copy of the book, Suicide and Attempted Suicide: Methods and Consequences, by Geo Stone! Another user attached it to this post:
sanctioned-suicide.net
Here is a direct link to the attachment:
The section on jumping starts on page 376, and it is worth the read if this is something you are considering.
Anyone have a PDF of Geo Stone's book?
Anyone have a PDF of Geo Stone's "Suicide and Attempted Suicide: Methods and Consequences?" It's very expensive to buy online. I haven't seen a PDF available online anywhere, but I wonder if it got taken out of search results. I imagine there must be a copy somewhere. Any thoughts?
sanctioned-suicide.net
Here is a direct link to the attachment:
The section on jumping starts on page 376, and it is worth the read if this is something you are considering.
dw33ter
meow meow
- Jan 23, 2023
- 36
to me, the biggest hurdles of attempting this (besides finding a place to jump from) are (1) overcoming SI and (2) landing the right way
I'm considering going to the building that I would attempt from (or a one of similar height) regularly so that I can get used to the height, and maybe trying diving / bungee jumping so I at least know what falling the right way would feel like. the last thing I want is fucking up the landing, or standing at the edge for too long and getting the cops called on me.
wondering if anyone has any personal strategies to overcome SI / land the right way? would like to learn from others if they have better ideas.
also @nightshade00 just want to thank you for the resources that you have found and shared here, they're the most informative I've seen on this site thus far regarding jumping
I'm considering going to the building that I would attempt from (or a one of similar height) regularly so that I can get used to the height, and maybe trying diving / bungee jumping so I at least know what falling the right way would feel like. the last thing I want is fucking up the landing, or standing at the edge for too long and getting the cops called on me.
wondering if anyone has any personal strategies to overcome SI / land the right way? would like to learn from others if they have better ideas.
also @nightshade00 just want to thank you for the resources that you have found and shared here, they're the most informative I've seen on this site thus far regarding jumping
nightshade00
living just for dying
- Jan 24, 2023
- 86
Thank you. I felt like there wasn't one place to go for getting info on jumping, so I wanted to revive the old megathread for when people had questions.
Regarding SI, all I know is that you want to avoid alcohol before a jump. Because it relaxes your body, you'll fall more like a ragdoll and not take as much damage (or so I've heard). I'm not sure if benzos or cannabis would have that effect, though.
nightshade00
living just for dying
- Jan 24, 2023
- 86
Later today, I'll work on going back through this thread and answering any open questions I can. I know some of the old members aren't even here anymore, but maybe others have the same questions.
I just feel like there's not enough hard info on this, so I want to help.
I just feel like there's not enough hard info on this, so I want to help.
Walilamdzii
Mage
- Sep 19, 2021
- 585
raindrops
Someday, eventually
- Mar 29, 2020
- 450
This won't load for me could I get help for this? Please I begI found a PDF copy of the book, Suicide and Attempted Suicide: Methods and Consequences, by Geo Stone! Another user attached it to this post:
Anyone have a PDF of Geo Stone's book?
Anyone have a PDF of Geo Stone's "Suicide and Attempted Suicide: Methods and Consequences?" It's very expensive to buy online. I haven't seen a PDF available online anywhere, but I wonder if it got taken out of search results. I imagine there must be a copy somewhere. Any thoughts?
Here is a direct link to the attachment:
The section on jumping starts on page 376, and it is worth the read if this is something you are considering.
I also wanted to revive this thread as it's one of the threads I used to research my CTB jumping method. I ultimately wasn't successful due to a lot of factors, mainly SI… this was my detailed experience -
Dear SS friends,
I want to start by saying how thankful I am for this forum and community. When I feel I have lost everyone and everything - it is the only thing that has kept me going for months.
Even though I only recently "officially" joined I have been silently participating by observing, empathizing, and taking guidance from the forum.
How I wish we could meet in person.
So many of us share common pain and suffering.
I often wonder what it would've been like to have been born into a family/circle that understands/holds me the way I feel understood/held by the shared experiences of this community.
I wanted to share my experience in the hopes that it may help someone else make an informed choice…and also because I haven't seen much listed about the Rio Grande Gorge Bridge in Taos, New Mexico on the site.. so I wanted to provide some insight…
I am a 38 year old female from the Southeast US. I have bipolar and BPD, and after my first impulsive attempt (suffocation) failed and resulted in a hospital stay that made my mental health worse - I vowed I would thoroughly research my next attempt.
I'm sad to say I've failed again..
I chose the Rio Grande Gorge Bridge in New Mexico because I felt it was a viable option for various reasons:
1) No tall fencing - fencing is about 4 feet and pedestrians ARE allowed on the bridge openly.. it is one of the few bridges in the US where I found this to be the case - accessible fencing and pedestrian accessible!
It is quite easy to scale the fence if you are able to do so quickly AND get over SI
(which I ultimately wasn't
for a number of reasons..)
Although it is a pedestrian bridge and I spent a lot of time looking over the rail calculating my fall.. it also means you are sharing space with a lot of other people/tourists, couples and families.. and the bridge is still pretty active to traffic. a least one car per minute crossing over if not more.
It was a lot more active than I anticipated.
There is also a nearby rest area that is quite busy with sightseers and vendors. That being said, despite numerous attempt visits at different times of day - I found it hard to scale the fence for fear of getting caught, traumatizing others, having enough time to get over SI.. etc
I also tried going at night with no one around but my SI wouldn't even let me get out of the car to get on the bridge.
fml
2) Limited patrolling
They have a sad excuse for a security guard (who doesn't leave his car for his entire shift) at the nearby gorge rest station. Every time I passed him his head was down in his phone not paying attention to anything or anyone at all.
So basically no patrolling.. and even if they did see you trying to scale the fence, assuming you were quick enough - they wouldn't be able to get to you in time either on foot or by car.
Unless you hesitated of course… and got stuck half way through..
I visited the site no less than 7 times over a course of a week and no one - not the vendors selling items or the guard seemed to notice my coming and going, oftentimes multiple times a day wearing the same clothes..
3) Approved height (600 feet)..it's definitely high enough to CTB and there have been numerous fatalities over the years. I did a lot of research and although they have hidden some names I was able to find the names of some women around my age who I identified with.. I researched them, felt for them, left flowers at their memorials in understanding of our shared pain. One was a young mother of three…
- Taos is far from my family and everyone I know… I thought being far away would make it easier… I also love the stark beauty of New Mexico..
I did a lot of research on this option before choosing to fly half way across the country and yet I still couldn't bring myself to do it.
A note on SI while jumping - I wanted to share the absolutely horrific coming and goings of the mind.
This was the first time I experienced SI to this extent - it was wild.
I have read here that SI is the strongest when jumping and now I understand why.
Especially from a height of 600 feet, your brain and body KNOWS it's guaranteed to CTB.
For the entire day while at the airbnb, and even driving up to the bridge I would feel SO sure, SO committed that today was the day I would CTB!
For months before, I also looked up the bridge to familiarize myself with every aspect of it.. so that there wouldn't be any surprises.
I would remind myself over and over - for hours on end - of all of the failings in my life and how there is no hope for me except for a life of loneliness and pain..
OF course this was the time to CTB. I just had to find the short window to do it in! Get a grip damnit.
But then, as soon as I got on the bridge and looked over - my body would just FREEZE.. I kept thinking this would go away, the more I visited the site and desensitized myself to it.. or if I waited until just before sunset when it was relatively empty.. but that wasn't the case. In some cases it got worse..
The thoughts going through my head would range from -
- this is such a beautiful site, how could I possibly do this here? God is showing me how beautiful life is, can't you see? You want to live!
- this is absolutely terrifying what were you thinking flying half way across the country you fool.
- how can you be so selfish and do this and traumatize others..especially families
with young children..
- think about the first responders and others that will be impacted by this.
- you are going to experience absolute terror every second on the way down which may feel like an eternity (from what I've read)
- you will never be released from your earthly suffering and will be damned to hell and repeated experience of falling to death for the rest of eternity (fear of judgement from God)
And then as soon as I would leave the bridge I would be determined to return the next day and try again… after day 7, I decided it was time to regroup and go home.
I am now looking into SN as a more humane way to CTB, I wish I had looked into it earlier but it seemed to be quite difficult to locate and requiring a lot of moving parts to get right. And I was running out of time - so jumping did seem like the right option at the time.
If I attempt jumping again, it will have to be at a much quieter location (Navajo Bridge in the US is another consideration), or from the balcony of a very tall hotel room.. where I have privacy if I hesitate and won't be detained..
I am now flying back home to regroup and figure out what my next attempt will be.
This was long, I know. I hope it helps someone contemplating jumping.. and what it's actually like.
Dear SS friends,
I want to start by saying how thankful I am for this forum and community. When I feel I have lost everyone and everything - it is the only thing that has kept me going for months.
Even though I only recently "officially" joined I have been silently participating by observing, empathizing, and taking guidance from the forum.
How I wish we could meet in person.
So many of us share common pain and suffering.
I often wonder what it would've been like to have been born into a family/circle that understands/holds me the way I feel understood/held by the shared experiences of this community.
I wanted to share my experience in the hopes that it may help someone else make an informed choice…and also because I haven't seen much listed about the Rio Grande Gorge Bridge in Taos, New Mexico on the site.. so I wanted to provide some insight…
I am a 38 year old female from the Southeast US. I have bipolar and BPD, and after my first impulsive attempt (suffocation) failed and resulted in a hospital stay that made my mental health worse - I vowed I would thoroughly research my next attempt.
I'm sad to say I've failed again..
I chose the Rio Grande Gorge Bridge in New Mexico because I felt it was a viable option for various reasons:
1) No tall fencing - fencing is about 4 feet and pedestrians ARE allowed on the bridge openly.. it is one of the few bridges in the US where I found this to be the case - accessible fencing and pedestrian accessible!
It is quite easy to scale the fence if you are able to do so quickly AND get over SI
(which I ultimately wasn't
for a number of reasons..)Although it is a pedestrian bridge and I spent a lot of time looking over the rail calculating my fall.. it also means you are sharing space with a lot of other people/tourists, couples and families.. and the bridge is still pretty active to traffic. a least one car per minute crossing over if not more.
It was a lot more active than I anticipated.
There is also a nearby rest area that is quite busy with sightseers and vendors. That being said, despite numerous attempt visits at different times of day - I found it hard to scale the fence for fear of getting caught, traumatizing others, having enough time to get over SI.. etc
I also tried going at night with no one around but my SI wouldn't even let me get out of the car to get on the bridge.
fml2) Limited patrolling
They have a sad excuse for a security guard (who doesn't leave his car for his entire shift) at the nearby gorge rest station. Every time I passed him his head was down in his phone not paying attention to anything or anyone at all.
So basically no patrolling.. and even if they did see you trying to scale the fence, assuming you were quick enough - they wouldn't be able to get to you in time either on foot or by car.
Unless you hesitated of course… and got stuck half way through..
I visited the site no less than 7 times over a course of a week and no one - not the vendors selling items or the guard seemed to notice my coming and going, oftentimes multiple times a day wearing the same clothes..
3) Approved height (600 feet)..it's definitely high enough to CTB and there have been numerous fatalities over the years. I did a lot of research and although they have hidden some names I was able to find the names of some women around my age who I identified with.. I researched them, felt for them, left flowers at their memorials in understanding of our shared pain. One was a young mother of three…
- Taos is far from my family and everyone I know… I thought being far away would make it easier… I also love the stark beauty of New Mexico..
I did a lot of research on this option before choosing to fly half way across the country and yet I still couldn't bring myself to do it.
A note on SI while jumping - I wanted to share the absolutely horrific coming and goings of the mind.
This was the first time I experienced SI to this extent - it was wild.
I have read here that SI is the strongest when jumping and now I understand why.
Especially from a height of 600 feet, your brain and body KNOWS it's guaranteed to CTB.
For the entire day while at the airbnb, and even driving up to the bridge I would feel SO sure, SO committed that today was the day I would CTB!
For months before, I also looked up the bridge to familiarize myself with every aspect of it.. so that there wouldn't be any surprises.
I would remind myself over and over - for hours on end - of all of the failings in my life and how there is no hope for me except for a life of loneliness and pain..
OF course this was the time to CTB. I just had to find the short window to do it in! Get a grip damnit.
But then, as soon as I got on the bridge and looked over - my body would just FREEZE.. I kept thinking this would go away, the more I visited the site and desensitized myself to it.. or if I waited until just before sunset when it was relatively empty.. but that wasn't the case. In some cases it got worse..
The thoughts going through my head would range from -
- this is such a beautiful site, how could I possibly do this here? God is showing me how beautiful life is, can't you see? You want to live!
- this is absolutely terrifying what were you thinking flying half way across the country you fool.
- how can you be so selfish and do this and traumatize others..especially families
with young children..
- think about the first responders and others that will be impacted by this.
- you are going to experience absolute terror every second on the way down which may feel like an eternity (from what I've read)
- you will never be released from your earthly suffering and will be damned to hell and repeated experience of falling to death for the rest of eternity (fear of judgement from God)
And then as soon as I would leave the bridge I would be determined to return the next day and try again… after day 7, I decided it was time to regroup and go home.
I am now looking into SN as a more humane way to CTB, I wish I had looked into it earlier but it seemed to be quite difficult to locate and requiring a lot of moving parts to get right. And I was running out of time - so jumping did seem like the right option at the time.
If I attempt jumping again, it will have to be at a much quieter location (Navajo Bridge in the US is another consideration), or from the balcony of a very tall hotel room.. where I have privacy if I hesitate and won't be detained..
I am now flying back home to regroup and figure out what my next attempt will be.
This was long, I know. I hope it helps someone contemplating jumping.. and what it's actually like.
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