John Lennon died violently in 1980. He was an advocate of PEACE and if he were alive today, he would remind us that WAR solves nothing !.

[Rational man]

John Lennon died violently in 1980. He was an advocate of PEACE and if he were alive today, he would remind us that WAR solves nothing !.

I realise his message . That only PEACE amongst anger can solve human indifference.

But i realise that humankind is full of anger. I don't see love or peaceful minds. I see war in Europe and its just question of will i still be here when Putin has finished with us.

 

[summers]

So should the people of the Ukraine just let themselves be invaded? That would mean no war.

Saying war solves nothing is the equivalent of letting someone attack you and doing nothing to stop it. Everyone has a right to defend themselves and their country.

 

[raghu1977]

War solved the Nazi problem. I doubt pacifism would have helped any of their millions of victims.

 

[Sister of the Moon]

John Lennon could perhaps be said to be a bad example of a man of peace. To me he was a dirty woman beater and child abuser.
Jeremy Corbyn would be a shining example of a man of peace.
Just my two penn'orth, don't get mad at me

 

[Rational man]

War solved the Nazi problem. I doubt pacifism would have helped any of their millions of victims.

Yes, Nazism was the problem. Idealism paid for by ordinary people, perhaps people who wanted to live and love. I fell out of love with humankind.

John Lennon could perhaps be said to be a bad example of a man of peace. To me he was a dirty woman beater and child abuser.
Jeremy Corbyn would be a shining example of a man of peace.
Just my two penn'orth, don't get mad at me

I don't. Humankind is in destructive mode. Its what i sense.

So should the people of the Ukraine just let themselves be invaded? That would mean no war.

Saying war solves nothing is the equivalent of letting someone attack you and doing nothing to stop it. Everyone has a right to defend themselves and their country.

Defending self is understandable. But the message is about how perpetrators peddle war and anger to achieve their goals.

 

[Ligottian]

Everyone hates war until they find the right "bad guys" to hate.

 

[justsayin]

Everyone loves war as long as it's happening far away.

 

[_Minsk]

(:"only the dead have seen the end of war" - idk

 

[Istanbulite]

True.

But no need to shout at us in the title.

 

[Someone123]

John Lennon died violently in 1980. He was an advocate of PEACE and if he were alive today, he would remind us that WAR solves nothing !.

I realise his message . That only PEACE amongst anger can solve human indifference.

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John Lennon was a complicated person, his son Julian said he was a hypocrite on this issue because of how he used to yell at him for no reason and then John abandoned his son Julian and his wife when he met Yoko Ono and completely neglected them. He also admitted in a 1980 Playboy interview that he used to beat his first wife Cynthia, something which years later he regretted.

 

[Lost Magic]

Wars never end well for anybody. John Lennon was right when he sung: 'All we are saying is give peace a chance.' Okay, there are exceptions like defeating the Nazis in WW2, but most wars have been fought because of Imperialism and to keep lining the pockets of the Military Industrial Complex. Don't be fooled by the cries to war. The media gets involved to line their dirty pockets as well. Young people end up being battle scarred for life for old rich people with nothing better to do. Don't fall for it. As Major Smedley Butler said, 'War is a racket.'

 

[Rational man]

True.

But no need to shout at us in the title.

Sorry❤

 

[Pluto]

With the benefit of hindsight, wars are preventable. For those using the example of WWII, it was a direct product of the dreadfully asinine scapegoating of Germany and destruction of its economy following WWI; a mistake that was not repeated after WWII and has made Germany and Japan among the world's most respectable contributors ever since.

If we go back further to WWI, it was the rather insane alliance system. An absurd series of events saw a random political assassination in Sarajevo somehow led to (among countless others) battles between Australia and Turkey.

Once situations have been mismanaged and escalated, then yes there must be bloodshed. But in the scheme of things, it is entirely analogous to gangs of schoolchildren fighting in the playground, scaled up. War is ultimately an unnecessary element in a functional society, which is the point that the Julian Lennons of the world have tried to preach.

 

[lostundead]

An absurd series of events saw a random political assassination in Sarajevo somehow led to (among countless others) battles between Australia and Turkey.

I disagree with the usage of the word random here. The perpetraitors were part of a serbian terrorist network that was deeply embedded the serbian goverment and military apparatus. And this was just one of many provocations against austria-hungary. Serbian politcians were very open with the fact that they want to unite all serbs, which included croats who they deemed 'serbians in denial'. Because many of them lived in austria-hungary this ideology would've inevitably led to an armed invasion.

 

[Julgran]

Imagine all the people... who would have better lives if evil didn't exist...

 

[whatevs]

War, much like disease and death, is a normal part of the cycle of existence. Be it with or without bloodshed, conflict will exist as long as humans remain human. From a bird's eye perspective is just another contortion and modification of a larger organism that we are all part of. Every day many of our cells die or are killed by other cells, and pathogens fall at the gate of our immune system's fortress.

Putin is slightly based, by the way. I'd rather be under that boot that under the Anti-European Union. I'm happy that NATO is challenged. There are always two sides to all wars and nobody is completely faultless.

Imagine all the people... who would have better lives if evil didn't exist...

L I V E ... E V I L

Won't find one without the other.

 

[Rational man]

War, much like disease and death, is a normal part of the cycle of existence. Be it with or without bloodshed, conflict will exist as long as humans remain human. From a bird's eye perspective is just another contortion and modification of a larger organism that we are all part of. Every day many of our cells die or are killed by other cells, and pathogens fall at the gate of our immune system's fortress.

Putin is slightly based, by the way. I'd rather be under that boot that under the Anti-European Union. I'm happy that NATO is challenged. There are always two sides to all wars and nobody is completely faultless.

L I V E ... E V I L

Won't find one without the other.

Yes and besides by cbt plan, im seriously thinking that i might get blown up by rockets.,The UK is barely.1000 miles from the Polish borders.

 

[Chinaski]

John Lennon was a complicated person, his son Julian said he was a hypocrite on this issue because of how he used to yell at him for no reason and then John abandoned his son Julian and his wife when he met Yoko Ono and completely neglected them. He also admitted in a 1980 Playboy interview that he used to beat his first wife Cynthia, something which years later he regretted.

This is true, Lennon was a total arsehole, however the fundamental point that "war is not good, peace is better" doesn't get thrown to the wind on this basis imo

 

[Fakereality]

Not a supporter of war in the least though looking at human history as a whole war has solved way many things throughout time most of our history has consisted of constant warfare from ancient Egyptians to world war 2 and looking at depleting resources world War 3 is a inevitably not just a possibility. it's just a nature of things war and conflicts are part of our nature as much lust and other emotions are.

 

[Pluto]

Because many of them lived in austria-hungary this ideology would've inevitably led to an armed invasion.

There have been plenty of political assassinations throughout history that didn't directly cause a global war that killed 20 million people.

 

[motel rooms]

If we go back further to WWI, it was the rather insane alliance system. An absurd series of events saw a random political assassination in Sarajevo somehow led to (among countless others) battles between Australia and Turkey.

I disagree with the usage of the word random here.

Yeah, the assassination in Sarajevo definitely wasn't random. It also didn't cause WWI. That war was caused by militarism, imperialism & nationalism, & it would have broken out anyway. There was nothing strange about the alliance system in Europe in 1914. Alliances between countries have never been random. WWI was fought in an unbelievably idiotic way, though.

 

[lostundead]

Yeah, the assassination in Sarajevo definitely wasn't random. It also didn't cause WWI. That war was caused by militarism, imperialism & nationalism, & it would have broken out anyway. There was nothing strange about the alliance system in Europe in 1914. Alliances between countries have never been random. WWI was fought in an unbelievably idiotic way, though.

I dont think it was inevitable- a local war on the balkans yes, but not a full-blown world war. The alliance system that made WWI possible wouldn't have lasted for a long time. Britain would've likely never renewed the contract for the entente in 1916 if the war didn't break out. The alliances weren't entirely random, I agree with that, they were forged largely to keep germany in check but once it would've become clear that the german threat was vastly overestimated -they were the main profiteers of peace- the entente would've broken up.

 

[Rational man]

I dont think it was inevitable- a local war on the balkans yes, but not a full-blown world war. The alliance system that made WWI possible wouldn't have lasted for a long time. Britain would've likely never renewed the contract for the entente in 1916 if the war didn't break out. The alliances weren't entirely random, I agree with that, they were forged largely to keep germany in check but once it would've become clear that the german threat was vastly overestimated -they were the main profiteers of peace- the entente would've broken up.

The most awful thing i can think of about ww1, is the 'cannon - fodder' mentality of bone- headed generals prepared to sacrifice thousands of men, to gain a few feet on the front line. Humankind hadn't learnt, prepared to see people die today because they want to reclaim old lands.