Jiwoon Hwang

[ExistHarm]

I would like to bring attention back to the human being, Jiwoon Hwang. A leading figure in the antinatalism community, and an advocate for pro-choice, he departed autumn 2018.


A great paper written by Jiwoon, "why it is always better to cease to exist":

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This video makes me emotional. Not because he is gone, no, not at all. He is at pure peace. there can be no pain in nonexistence. I get emotional at how clearly he saw through the illusion, and how much of a terrible curse it is, to be anyone at all. the damage has already been done; we can only hope to leave swiftly and painlessly. As far as I see it, he is one of the most important human beings to ever exist; he reminds us that none of us were brought here with our consent, we had our lives imposed upon us, and it is perhaps the most rational, or at least the most empathetic choice you can make, to choose to undo the imposition.

I get emotional because of the very fact that he existed at all, had to learn these harsh truths, and ultimately had to take the matter into his own hands. i get emotional that i exist as well, had to learn the harsh truth of existence, and will have to undo the imposition myself, or at least wait until it inevitably comes naturally. i get emotional because i am human; i see myself in his short black hair, rectangle glasses, soft voice......perhaps we can take some solace in his peace. in the immortal peace of our unconceived generations of offspring. that they will never have to come into existence and relearn the horrors.

I can only hope we all find peace, eventually.

 

[FuneralCry]

Thank you for sharing the video, I see those who are finally free from this hellish world as being very fortunate as they are incapable of being tortured anymore. It's very true that existence is the source of all harm and in comparison death is the complete absence of it, which is why it will always be ideal to not exist. It disgusts me how people so cruelly force life into this world with no straightforward way to exit this existence. This just shows that existence certainly is so prison like, under no circumstances could it ever be acceptable to burden people with existence and continue this cycle of unnecessary suffering.

 

[ExistHarm]

Thank you for sharing the video, I see those who are finally free from this hellish world as being very fortunate as they are incapable of being tortured anymore. It's very true that existence is the source of all harm and in comparison death is the complete absence of it, which is why it will always be ideal to not exist. It disgusts me how people so cruelly force life into this world with no straightforward way to exit this existence. This just shows that existence certainly is so prison like, under no circumstances could it ever be acceptable to burden people with existence and continue this cycle of unnecessary suffering.

thank you for your response funeralcry, you always have a poignant reply... this video makes me feel an emotion ive never quite felt before even reading or watching suicide notes ... perhaps it is the raw music and lyrics, combined with the quotes, and the calm scenes of green trees and blue skies..and this baby boy, only slightly older than I....I weep , and i weep for the suffering he endured (he failed and was on life support for 2 months before the pulled the plug), and i weep for myself, and i weep for all of sentient and feeling life.....that my burning desire to see the cessation of life itself will not come to fruit before trillions more are harmed....the sheer futility and cruelty of it all..... oh man........

 

[RUPA]

Wow, to be honest, I've never heard of him before. I just jumped into your post out of curiosity to see that is obviously a Korean guy's name(I'm Korean). What a fascinating, exceptional human being! Unfortunately, I cannot find much about him on the web, and even less or almost nothing in Korean language. I got to know he died from complications from a suicide attempt at the age of 23 in 2018. What a superb human being and life he lived !

 

[ExistHarm]

Wow, to be honest, I've never heard of him before. I just jumped into your post out of curiosity to see that is obviously a Korean guy's name(I'm Korean). What a fascinating, exceptional human being! Unfortunately, I cannot find much about him on the web, and even less or almost nothing in Korean language. I got to know he died from complications from a suicide attempt at the age of 23 in 2018. What a superb human being and life he lived !

there is a fair bit online, nothing in the form of a biography like a wikipedia page unfortunately. i assume he grew up speaking korean but didn't use it for primary communication during his working years. however if you find yourself in the antinatalism community many long time members knew him personally and could tell you more. truly a voice of the ages and his suffering is over now. we can only hope we find the same peace.

 

[Ligottifan95]

I'm fairly active in the antinatalist community and read Jiwoon's essay defending the pro-mortalist position before he passed. He died pretty terribly, although I am uncertain as to the actual method he chose, and ended up surviving, becoming hospitalized with major brain damage and in a vegetative state or coma. Thankfully, he eventually did finally succeed in dying and returned to peaceful non-existence, after several weeks or months(I am unaware of the precise duration) of being hooked up to machines and medical equipment keeping him artificially alive and purposelessly prolonging organ functions.

 

[ExistHarm]

I'm fairly active in the antinatalist community and read Jiwoon's essay defending the pro-mortalist position before he passed. He died pretty terribly, although I am uncertain as to the actual method he chose, and ended up surviving, becoming hospitalized with major brain damage and in a vegetative state or coma. Thankfully, he eventually did finally succeed in dying and returned to peaceful non-existence, after several weeks or months(I am unaware of the precise duration) of being hooked up to machines and medical equipment keeping him artificially alive and purposelessly prolonging organ functions.

i understand he attempted in (maybe) september 2018 and was returned 2 months later in i think november 2018, not sure the details but it definitely was autumn 2018 and 2 months on the machine. im not sure the method he used however, i would be curious to find out but im not gonna go out of my way. his story makes me kind of terrified, i would need to absolutely sure i will not fail before i choose to leave...my SN is on the way and once it does i will imagine ill feel some sort of relief knowing i have a good method on hand..

what do you think about his pro-mortalist position? i havent finished reading his essay, but ive watched a lot of efil blaise and of course inmendham..i would say i am pro-mortalist, but alas i am also addicted to this life, really, as most of us are...

 

[Gonnerr]

Now we are alive and we are scared of dying because we were fucking born. He was right , i was immortal before being born , no pain , no time , peace forever , now i am mortal and it sucks.

 

[Ligottifan95]

i understand he attempted in (maybe) september 2018 and was returned 2 months later in i think november 2018, not sure the details but it definitely was autumn 2018 and 2 months on the machine. im not sure the method he used however, i would be curious to find out but im not gonna go out of my way. his story makes me kind of terrified, i would need to absolutely sure i will not fail before i choose to leave...my SN is on the way and once it does i will imagine ill feel some sort of relief knowing i have a good method on hand..

what do you think about his pro-mortalist position? i havent finished reading his essay, but ive watched a lot of efil blaise and of course inmendham..i would say i am pro-mortalist, but alas i am also addicted to this life, really, as most of us are...

Been a fan and viewer of Gary Inmendham since 2015. That was my introduction to the philosophy of antinatalism, Efilism, extinctionism, and pessimism, along with reading Schopenhauer's essays from "Studies in Pessimism", Peter Wessel Zapffe's "The Last Messiah", and Thomas Ligotti's "Conspiracy Against the Human Race".

 

[ExistHarm]

Been a fan and viewer of Gary Inmendham since 2015. That was my introduction to the philosophy of antinatalism, Efilism, extinctionism, and pessimism, along with reading Schopenhauer's essays from "Studies in Pessimism", Peter Wessel Zapffe's "The Last Messiah", and Thomas Ligotti's "Conspiracy Against the Human Race".

only have read ligotti, have watched a ton of inmendham. i only got into these things about 3 months ago and its not why i am so ready to ctb, its more like ive always had the urge to ctb to escape this hell and only after finding out that 99% of people were under serious fucking delusions over the ethics of reproduction and the value of life (i went vegan too 1.5 years ago and so many people are deluded over factory farming), have i started understanding death may be better than life....if only i had found inmendham soon to be honest, maybe some of my problems wouldn't be as acute