Help IV in the context of suicide.

[Caribbean Sky]

IV has a broad medical use so I'm wanting to know how specifically to set it up for suicide so I do it correctly.
The drug this IV suicide will be specific to is fentanyl or a nitazene, maybe heroin.

Does the IV have to be ongoing or would it be just a quick injection? Am I just flushing my entire fatal dose? Should I use a catheter/butterfly needle? How can I avoid doing it 'too fast' so that I don't pass out before my death?
Please tell this moron how to use iv properly for suicide with an opioid.

 

[2messdup]

IV has a broad medical use so I'm wanting to know how specifically to set it up for suicide so I do it correctly.
The drug this IV suicide will be specific to is fentanyl or a nitazene, maybe heroin.

Does the IV have to be ongoing or would it be just a quick injection? Am I just flushing my entire fatal dose? Should I use a catheter/butterfly needle? How can I avoid doing it 'too fast' so that I don't pass out before my death?
Please tell this moron how to use iv properly for suicide with an opioid.

Sorry idk the answer. So that's two of us who are morons (you are not by the way, cos if you were you wouldn't have even thought of this question).

 

[knowledgeseeking]

IV has a broad medical use so I'm wanting to know how specifically to set it up for suicide so I do it correctly.
The drug this IV suicide will be specific to is fentanyl or a nitazene, maybe heroin.

Does the IV have to be ongoing or would it be just a quick injection? Am I just flushing my entire fatal dose? Should I use a catheter/butterfly needle? How can I avoid doing it 'too fast' so that I don't pass out before my death?
Please tell this moron how to use iv properly for suicide with an opioid.

I've also been trying to find the answer to this. It seems like lethal doses of opioids and zenes knock you out before you can get a fatal dose in. I have been wondering about setting up and IV lines and just adding all the drugs to the bag a saline and just letting them all flow into me while I slept.

 

[orbwithinorb]

I've also been trying to find the answer to this. It seems like lethal doses of opioids and zenes knock you out before you can get a fatal dose in. I have been wondering about setting up and IV lines and just adding all the drugs to the bag a saline and just letting them all flow into me while I slept.

Wonder the effectiveness of that setup, seems like it would work pretty well. Also if you are able to access to zenes, I'm pretty sure they're strong enough you can do an oral dose and skip the headache of IVing.

 

[knowledgeseeking]

Wonder the effectiveness of that setup, seems like it would work pretty well. Also if you are able to access to zenes, I'm pretty sure they're strong enough you can do an oral dose and skip the headache of IVing.

I have been wondering about preparing an overkill of heroin (maybe some crazy amount of like 7Gs) into an IV saline bag and just letting it do work. I don't know enough about how long we would have to use the heroine once it is injected into the IV bag. I wonder if stays a liquid or starts to congeal at some point. I think it has to stay warm at least, but that could be accomplished with warm saline and a heating blanket or something to keep the saline warm.

I honestly really love this plan. I hope we could get the information to see if it is truly viable.

Some pure zenes would definitely do the job and would love that. Sadly I haven't been able to find anything close to pure. I guess for me it is a sourcing issue. DNM claim to have some great zenes and other strong products, but so far they have been disappointed. I am confident I have found two good heroine vendors.

 

[orbwithinorb]

I have been wondering about preparing an overkill of heroin (maybe some crazy amount of like 7Gs) into an IV saline bag and just letting it do work. I don't know enough about how long we would have to use the heroine once it is injected into the IV bag. I wonder if stays a liquid or starts to congeal at some point. I think it has to stay warm at least, but that could be accomplished with warm saline and a heating blanket or something to keep the saline warm.

I honestly really love this plan. I hope we could get the information to see if it is truly viable.

Some pure zenes would definitely do the job and would love that. Sadly I haven't been able to find anything close to pure. I guess for me it is a sourcing issue. DNM claim to have some great zenes and other strong products, but so far they have been disappointed. I am confident I have found two good heroine vendors.

Honestly don't know much about IVs to answer but let me know if you learn more.

Also bummer that the zenes on there are weak. Did you test them for purity or did you attempt it taking them orally and it didn't work?

 

[knowledgeseeking]

Honestly don't know much about IVs to answer but let me know if you learn more.

Also bummer that the zenes on there are weak. Did you test them for purity or did you attempt it taking them orally and it didn't work?

Attempted taking them orally. I did take a lot and blacked out, but nothing close to death.

 

[Sunset Limited]

IV has a broad medical use so I'm wanting to know how specifically to set it up for suicide so I do it correctly.
The drug this IV suicide will be specific to is fentanyl or a nitazene, maybe heroin.

Does the IV have to be ongoing or would it be just a quick injection? Am I just flushing my entire fatal dose? Should I use a catheter/butterfly needle? How can I avoid doing it 'too fast' so that I don't pass out before my death?
Please tell this moron how to use iv properly for suicide with an opioid.

There are better options than fentanyl, heroin, and nitazene, such as propofol and thiopental. Propofol and thiopental are drugs for medical use, so you can be sure of their purity. They're not street drugs with unknown ingredients or uncertain purity. Especially thiopental, comes in powder form and can be dissolved in doses of 5 grams/5 cc. Anestofol, the form of propofol used in animal euthanasia, comes in doses of 500 mg/10 cc. It also contains an additional 500 mg of lidocaine.

Thiopental is currently the best option for the IV method. While 5 grams of thiopental dissolved in 5 cc of water is sufficient, the bolus will be very painful. An infusion pump and 5 grams of thiopental dissolved in 25-30 cc of 0.9% saline will do the trick. That means a flow of approximately 300 mg of thiopental in 10 seconds. While it's faster than a standard bolus dose, I don't think it will be painful.

Thiopental was used as the single agent in the execution of prisoners during the years it was first produced in the United States. They used 5 grams of thiopental. Of course, dissolving 10 grams of thiopental in 60cc of water and infusing it increases the chance of success.

My method is propofol. I'm experienced with self IV, and I have to tell you, it's not easy. It requires a lot of practice. Good luck.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Agree with the post just above this one, if I knew how to use the DW I would go for propofol.

Its very short acting - you wake up in 5-10 minutes with a single dose - I believe this is why they feed it to you continuously during surgery. However, propofol combined with a plastic bag would be the way I would guarantee ctb.

Barbiturates are virtually never prescribed anymore - doctors just don't write prescriptions for them anymore after much safer benzos were brought to market. There just isn't any demand out there for them except state executions and right to die organizations. And most drug makers limited production even further because they didn't like the idea that their drugs were being used for capital punishment.

The result is there is hardly any supply driving the cost up to thousands of dollars per dose. Any you'd need a lot to ctb.

For that reason, I'd be very wary of any barbiturates being sold on the dark web. They are most likely a scam.

IV has a broad medical use so I'm wanting to know how specifically to set it up for suicide so I do it correctly.
The drug this IV suicide will be specific to is fentanyl or a nitazene, maybe heroin.

Does the IV have to be ongoing or would it be just a quick injection? Am I just flushing my entire fatal dose? Should I use a catheter/butterfly needle? How can I avoid doing it 'too fast' so that I don't pass out before my death?
Please tell this moron how to use iv properly for suicide with an opioid.

Funny thing you mentioned IVs. A little while ago I was contemplating placing an art line so I would just bleed out as a way to CTB. Can't use a vein because they collapse, clot, and lose pressure after you lose a couple pints of blood, so it would have to be an artery. As far as I could tell, the radial artery in the wrist is the most accessible. There are in fact instructional videos online on how to do this.

The problem was that while some nurses/doctors palpate the artery to find it, others use ultrasound.

So placing it seems difficult compared to using a vein.

Also, I started to read the effects of what happens with catastrophic blood loss - and it wasn't as peaceful as I had presumed - heart attacks, seizures, etc., were all listed as what might happen so forget that.

One thing I've often wondered - maybe someone knows. I'm not a cutter so I would never attempt this, but it makes me wonder - wrist slitting is almost universally known as being unreliable for ctb, however I wonder why more wrist cutters don't just bleed out and die? I mean, the radial artery is right there - its not even buried that much, doctors use it all the time to place art lines and to shove wires (catheter?) in to your heart (angioplasty I think). So you would think that they would bleed out more often...

 

[madameviolette]

Agree with the post just above this one, if I knew how to use the DW I would go for propofol.

Its very short acting - you wake up in 5-10 minutes with a single dose - I believe this is why they feed it to you continuously during surgery. However, propofol combined with a plastic bag would be the way I would guarantee ctb.

Barbiturates are virtually never prescribed anymore - doctors just don't write prescriptions for them anymore after much safer benzos were brought to market. There just isn't any demand out there for them except state executions and right to die organizations. And most drug makers limited production even further because they didn't like the idea that their drugs were being used for capital punishment.

The result is there is hardly any supply driving the cost up to thousands of dollars per dose. Any you'd need a lot to ctb.

For that reason, I'd be very wary of any barbiturates being sold on the dark web. They are most likely a scam.


Funny thing you mentioned IVs. A little while ago I was contemplating placing an art line so I would just bleed out as a way to CTB. Can't use a vein because they collapse, clot, and lose pressure after you lose a couple pints of blood, so it would have to be an artery. As far as I could tell, the radial artery in the wrist is the most accessible. There are in fact instructional videos online on how to do this.

The problem was that while some nurses/doctors palpate the artery to find it, others use ultrasound.

So placing it seems difficult compared to using a vein.

Also, I started to read the effects of what happens with catastrophic blood loss - and it wasn't as peaceful as I had presumed - heart attacks, seizures, etc., were all listed as what might happen so forget that.

One thing I've often wondered - maybe someone knows. I'm not a cutter so I would never attempt this, but it makes me wonder - wrist slitting is almost universally known as being unreliable for ctb, however I wonder why more wrist cutters don't just bleed out and die? I mean, the radial artery is right there - its not even buried that much, doctors use it all the time to place art lines and to shove wires (catheter?) in to your heart (angioplasty I think). So you would think that they would bleed out more often...

Where do you find propofol on the DW ? I mean legit source not scams. I know how to use the DW and they don't sell propofol in my memories

 

[Jello Biafra]

Where do you find propofol on the DW ? I mean legit source not scams. I know how to use the DW and they don't sell propofol in my memories

Maybe they don't - I had just assumed. You would need other things to go with propofol though - it would be too technical to set up a continuous drip with a canula like they do for surgery.

I was simply going to use it to lose consciousness and have something else do the heavy lifting so to speak.