It is sad how this website is not comforting anymore.

[FuneralCry]

I think I did write about this months ago, but I feel like this even more now. I think that in the past, a long time ago, being on here did comfort me a bit, even know nothing could possibly ever make me feel better and I will always suffer no matter what. I feel like now, there has been too many pro life, harmful and insulting things on here. The last thing that suicidal people need is being made to feel worse. It is a shame how things turn out like this, but after all life is extremely disappointing. Things only seem to get worse.

I just think that in this world people will always be cruel and that is just the way that people are. At this point, it seems as though there is no peace or comfort in this life, there is only pain, and it is tiring trying to distract myself each day, having to deal with this miserable existence. Sometimes I do envy those who come on here for methods and just go. If euthanasia was legalised then this website would not even need to exist in the first place.

This life is so meaningless and temporary but at the same time so painful. I wish I never felt a need to write about this and I wish that I never felt a need to use the forum, if I was gone from this world I would not have to. I wish that I was gone more than anything, but of course dying is not easy. I envy those who have left this life as they are free from suffering, they do not have to deal with pointless life anymore. Non existence is all that I will ever want.

 

[Idontmatter]

I think I did write about this months ago, but I feel like this even more now. I think that in the past, a long time ago, being on here did comfort me a bit, even know nothing could possibly ever make me feel better and I will always suffer no matter what. I feel like now, there has been too many pro life, harmful and insulting things on here. The last thing that suicidal people need is being made to feel worse. It is a shame how things turn out like this, but after all life is extremely disappointing. Things only seem to get worse.

I just think that in this world people will always be cruel and that is just the way that people are. At this point, it seems as though there is no peace or comfort in this life, there is only pain, and it is tiring trying to distract myself each day, having to deal with this miserable existence. Sometimes I do envy those who come on here for methods and just go. If euthanasia was legalised then this website would not even need to exist in the first place.

This life is so meaningless and temporary but at the same time so painful. I wish I never felt a need to write about this and I wish that I never felt a need to use the forum, if I was gone from this world I would not have to. I wish that I was gone more than anything, but of course dying is not easy. I envy those who have left this life as they are free from suffering, they do not have to deal with pointless life anymore. Non existence is all that I will ever want.

Well I have always appreciated your supportive comments. No matter what someone posted saying what they are going through you were right there with support. Thank you for that. If my tentative plans hold up for a July death those supportive words will help as I will be very nervous. Again thank you.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I think I did write about this months ago, but I feel like this even more now. I think that in the past, a long time ago, being on here did comfort me a bit, even know nothing could possibly ever make me feel better and I will always suffer no matter what. I feel like now, there has been too many pro life, harmful and insulting things on here. The last thing that suicidal people need is being made to feel worse. It is a shame how things turn out like this, but after all life is extremely disappointing. Things only seem to get worse.

I just think that in this world people will always be cruel and that is just the way that people are. At this point, it seems as though there is no peace or comfort in this life, there is only pain, and it is tiring trying to distract myself each day, having to deal with this miserable existence. Sometimes I do envy those who come on here for methods and just go. If euthanasia was legalised then this website would not even need to exist in the first place.

This life is so meaningless and temporary but at the same time so painful. I wish I never felt a need to write about this and I wish that I never felt a need to use the forum, if I was gone from this world I would not have to. I wish that I was gone more than anything, but of course dying is not easy. I envy those who have left this life as they are free from suffering, they do not have to deal with pointless life anymore. Non existence is all that I will ever want.

imo this website in 2018 and 2019 was better than now 2019> 2020> 2021> 2022 . But that's just the way i see it. still some good posts and posters though

 

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[locked*n*loaded]

Like many others, I always enjoy your posts, too. IDK, but I still feel comfort here, regardless of some of the drivel espoused by some on here on occasion. Truthfully, unless it's really, really egregious drivel, where I feel compelled to react, I mostly just pass right over it and move on with my business. Maybe I am able to just compartmentalize better than some. Although I know I haven't been here as long as you, yeah, I still feel comfort in like 99% of the postings I read from people, from all walks of life, in all different situations, simply knowing the feelings I have aren't only known to me. It's not that there's comfort in knowing that others are suffering as much as you, but it kind of is, ya know? I don't want anybody to ever have to suffer in any way, ever. But, I guess it's kinda true that misery does love company.

 

[Dizzylady80]

You're a very sweet person, I'm sorry people were shitty. Your comments have made a lot of people feel heard

 

[Un-]

I like reading your posts, @FuneralCry. I relate only with your words, and none else, but I hold no sympathy for you in regards to this. Why would you ever think the best of people? Have you seen us? We're horrible - all of us. The root of all suffering, we are. I'm terrified of them myself. I suppose you realise this now, or you've always known it: where-ever there's man, there's pain. I wish there were exceptions. I don't think it matters for me to say this... but, no - for this I have no sympathy for you. It's foolish to ever think people bring about good without suffering. There's none such person that's innocent. Regardless, I hope the best for you. Everything'll eventually fade. That's something to look forward to, init?

 

[Lullaby]

@FuneralCry I've made some threads on here, and you are usually always the first person to respond. Your comments have always made me feel heard and that really means the world to me when I'm having a bad day.

There are people here who really appreciate you.

 

[cringelord111]

Non existence is all that I will ever want.

"You" will not be there to experience non-existence

 

[Dizzylady80]

I like reading your posts, @FuneralCry. I relate only with your words, and none else, but I hold no sympathy for you in regards to this. Why would you ever think the best of people? Have you seen us? We're horrible - all of us. The root of all suffering, we are. I'm terrified of them myself. I suppose you realise this now, or you've always known it: where-ever there's man, there's pain. I wish there were exceptions. I don't think it matters for me to say this... but, no - for this I have no sympathy for you. It's foolish to ever think people bring about good without suffering. There's none such person that's innocent. Regardless, I hope the best for you. Everything'll eventually fade. That's something to look forward to, init?

There's a lot of people who bring about good in this world, don't be shitty

 

[Enigmatic Sailor]

@FuneralCry Your presence on here is like tradition. Keep on rockin'.

 

[Shu]

"You" will not be there to experience non-existence

Really?

 

[diyCTB]

The last thing that suicidal people need is being made to feel worse. It is a shame how things turn out like this, but after all life is extremely disappointing. Things only seem to get worse.

If it's not in society's interests to understand us how can we help society and coexist as a whole on a common ground? Treating us as humans, the way we are and being capable of listening is a good start.

It won't happen though my friend seeing how everything has been and where everything is going. People can live in bliss, hoping it never hits hem until it does and realize how it is like for less fortunate on the other side that they maybe once judged in disdain. Hope dies last.

"You" will not be there to experience non-existence

"Who" will be there?

 

[Rational man]

Suffering is.temporary.because we are impermanent. We all do die in the end and we turn to dust. Mother Earth will also implode and continue its journey through the cosmos. Our remains will journey to throughout space . Your posts are supportive.of.others. How do you see comforting.from other's?

Really?

I believe we live on minus our identity which surely must be a good thing because we suffer in the world. One short lifetime is enough. Because living forevermore would be intolerable. I will be free of my physical and emotional pain. I wont need to eat or emit body fluids and waste. Returning to a new carbon form for me is metamorphosis. I will rejoin the cosmic stella recycling of cosmic.elements in a glorious ignition of gas and light.

 

[NoLightRemains]

I think I did write about this months ago, but I feel like this even more now. I think that in the past, a long time ago, being on here did comfort me a bit, even know nothing could possibly ever make me feel better and I will always suffer no matter what. I feel like now, there has been too many pro life, harmful and insulting things on here. The last thing that suicidal people need is being made to feel worse. It is a shame how things turn out like this, but after all life is extremely disappointing. Things only seem to get worse.

I just think that in this world people will always be cruel and that is just the way that people are. At this point, it seems as though there is no peace or comfort in this life, there is only pain, and it is tiring trying to distract myself each day, having to deal with this miserable existence. Sometimes I do envy those who come on here for methods and just go. If euthanasia was legalised then this website would not even need to exist in the first place.

This life is so meaningless and temporary but at the same time so painful. I wish I never felt a need to write about this and I wish that I never felt a need to use the forum, if I was gone from this world I would not have to. I wish that I was gone more than anything, but of course dying is not easy. I envy those who have left this life as they are free from suffering, they do not have to deal with pointless life anymore. Non existence is all that I will ever want.

FWIW, I have always enjoyed reading your comments. You come across as a kind, genuine person who is always around to listen.

 

[Pain In The Ass]

I think I did write about this months ago, but I feel like this even more now. I think that in the past, a long time ago, being on here did comfort me a bit, even know nothing could possibly ever make me feel better and I will always suffer no matter what. I feel like now, there has been too many pro life, harmful and insulting things on here. The last thing that suicidal people need is being made to feel worse. It is a shame how things turn out like this, but after all life is extremely disappointing. Things only seem to get worse.

I just think that in this world people will always be cruel and that is just the way that people are. At this point, it seems as though there is no peace or comfort in this life, there is only pain, and it is tiring trying to distract myself each day, having to deal with this miserable existence. Sometimes I do envy those who come on here for methods and just go. If euthanasia was legalised then this website would not even need to exist in the first place.

This life is so meaningless and temporary but at the same time so painful. I wish I never felt a need to write about this and I wish that I never felt a need to use the forum, if I was gone from this world I would not have to. I wish that I was gone more than anything, but of course dying is not easy. I envy those who have left this life as they are free from suffering, they do not have to deal with pointless life anymore. Non existence is all that I will ever want.

What is meant by a pro-lifer? Do you mean someone who loves life, if it weren't for their chronic pain, life debilitating illness, or whatever, and who believes in the power of change through action, that kind of ting? That life is meaningful and beautiful, and purposeful, but the physical pain has become too much to bear?

 

[downndone2]

@FuneralCry you are such a supportive person on this site. I always enjoy reading your posts and comments. I'm sorry you're suffering

 

[NobodyKnowsMe]

@FuneralCry - In the short time that I've been here, you seem like one of the more compationate folks here. Always trying to offer a comforting word to others while still struggling with your own issues.

I haven't been here long, but if this place is like many other forums that I've spent time on, the "vibe" will ebb and flow. There will be times where there are many folks putting out super supporting comments and there will be times when there is little comfort in forum comments. In the long run, I'm hoping this place is more comforting for me than not.

 

[FuneralCry]

What is meant by a pro-lifer? Do you mean someone who loves life, if it weren't for their chronic pain, life debilitating illness, or whatever, and who believes in the power of change through action, that kind of ting? That life is meaningful and beautiful, and purposeful, but the physical pain has become too much to bear?

Pro lifers are the ones that do not respect the right to die, invalidate the suffering of others, say platitudes in response to someone suffering, and I guess on this forum it has been quite pro life, criticising suicidal peoples venting posts and saying that they are too negative. I have seen that quite a few times.

 

[Pluto]

What is meant by a pro-lifer?

These terms will mean substantially different things to different people, and as such I personally prefer to avoid them.

It does seem that extreme anhedonia can be a lifelong affliction that secondarily leads to a lack of positive connections, memories, purpose, etc.. Support with the underlying condition may be possible, but someone would have to want it in the first place, making for yet another vicious circle.

The OP is a fixture here, especially welcoming to all newcomers, and I hope we can all support her expressing her world-view even if it may differ from our own.

 

[Al Cappella]

What is meant by a pro-lifer?

Sometimes, here, I think it's used when someone doesn't agree with you, is critical, or says something you don't like. Personally, I think it's a really stupid term, meant to tribalise folks and create enemy others.

I'm pro-life. I think, mostly. Even in my darkest I get that just because it sucks for me, doesn't mean it's that way for everyone. It invariably does have something to offer, etc. I'm also fiercely pro-choice, as long as you don't hurt or damage others. I certainly don't see pro-life and pro-choice as being mutually exclusive terms.

 

[Pluto]

1. People that believe life is really good and that sure there is some suffering but the good far outweigh the bad. never think about suicide for themselves. they can be called pro-life

There's nothing wrong with your classifications, though 'pro-life' tends to be a loaded word that appears to be derived from the infamous battle ground of abortion debate. If we classify a normal person who is reasonably content with their life in this manner, we risk propagating a world view in which we are actively antagonistic towards the majority of normal people. Hopefully it also makes sense why I've often preached in favour of avoiding this type of slippery terminology to begin with.

Regarding point 4, of course I respect your world view and it holds a lot of factual accuracy. If we were in the recovery forum, there are points that could be debated, but it would be inappropriate to do so here.

 

[diyCTB]

Sometimes, here, I think it's used when someone doesn't agree with you, is critical, or says something you don't like. Personally, I think it's a really stupid term, meant to tribalise folks and create enemy others.

You have just described normies from opposing camps of daily life who quarell because they lack civility to have a common ground. You forgot to add the following characteristics that better describe profile of pro-lifer that OP referrs to:

- Lack of empathy
- Lack of respect
- Incapability to listen
- Invalidation of feelings
- Blame shifting
- Victimization

Some of these people might be a rotten apples; outright toxic, predatory in nature and derive joy from causing pain to vulnerable people by means like trolling, slandering and gaslighting. It has happened here but I digress.

Sanctuary is not tailored for people possessing such characteristics to interact with forum because it's intended to protect vulnerable people from the former in the first place but they can still have access to information because it should be basic human right.

 

[Pain In The Ass]

Sometimes, here, I think it's used when someone doesn't agree with you, is critical, or says something you don't like. Personally, I think it's a really stupid term, meant to tribalise folks and create enemy others.

I'm pro-life. I think, mostly. Even in my darkest I get that just because it sucks for me, doesn't mean it's that way for everyone. It invariably does have something to offer, etc. I'm also fiercely pro-choice, as long as you don't hurt or damage others. I certainly don't see pro-life and pro-choice as being mutually exclusive terms.

Same here, agree completely - pro-lifer on here seems to be someone who doesn't hate humanity and thinks life can be enjoyable at times - if it weren't for my back pain I wouldn't feel the need to be dead - I love life, wildlife, coastal walks, making music, listening to music, history, philosophy, the list goes on - it's just this damn back pain I can't deal with

Same here, agree completely - pro-lifer on here seems to be someone who doesn't hate humanity and thinks life can be enjoyable at times - if it weren't for my back pain I wouldn't feel the need to be dead - I love life, wildlife, coastal walks, making music, listening to music, history, philosophy, the list goes on - it's just this damn back pain I can't deal with

As far as...
- Lack of empathy
- Lack of respect
- Incapability to listen
- Invalidation of feelings
- Blame shifting
- Victimization
...goes, I can be good at some of these things sometimes and bad at others. Depends on my mood and who /I'm talking to. I cry my eyes out through Long Lost Family with Davina Mcall, so I don't think anyone can claim I lack empathy!

 

[motel rooms]

I certainly don't see pro-life and pro-choice as being mutually exclusive terms.

Me neither. For the umpteenth time: we need to call our opponents anti-choicers, not pro-lifers. They aren't virtuous defenders of life, their defining quality is that they're against freedom of choice.

 

[Chinaski]

Me neither. For the umpteenth time: we need to call our opponents anti-choicers, not pro-lifers. They aren't virtuous defenders of life, their defining quality is that they're against freedom of choice.

We don't really, both are terms only used in discussion on here and it doesn't matter which term is used. I did originally agree that one term was probably more appropriate than the other but it now seems that those who insist on the use of "anti choice" do so because they want clapbacks for coining it, and this makes me less inclined to use it.

Pro lifers are the ones that... say platitudes in response to someone suffering

I'd say 80% of the active users of this forum do that, including you. This place is not the Empathy Safe Haven, most people here genuinely dgaf about each other to any degree.

 

[motel rooms]

I certainly don't see pro-life and pro-choice as being mutually exclusive terms.

Me neither. For the umpteenth time: we need to call our opponents anti-choicers, not pro-lifers. They aren't virtuous defenders of life, their defining quality is that they're against freedom of choice.

I hope we can all support her expressing her world-view even if it may differ from our own.

It's hard not to get annoyed when someone calls you a delusional pro-lifer just because you disagree with their generalization that life is only suffering for everyone. I consider that crossing a line & I can't support it. It's not like I made the ridiculous claim that suffering is no big deal & that nobody's pain is unbearable.

 

[Seiko]

I have always appreciated your posts; you are one of the most pertinent members of this site. And just so you know—members like you are why I have stuck around for a bit longer.

 

[Rational man]

Me neither. For the umpteenth time: we need to call our opponents anti-choicers, not pro-lifers. They aren't virtuous defenders of life, their defining quality is that they're against freedom of choice.



It's hard not to get annoyed when someone calls you a delusional pro-lifer just because you disagree with their generalization that life is only suffering for everyone. I consider that crossing a line & I can't support it. It's not like I made the ridiculous claim that suffering is no big deal & that nobody's pain is unbearable.

my experience of people who call the shots regarding pain and suffering, describes.someone who doesnt really know what pain and suffering is.. There are exceptions of course.

 

[ornitier199]

Wow. this place really has become as that dumpster fire.
of course the latter don't give a fuck when its all strangers. online.
This place is virtually no different then group time at the psych ward. :/ Avoid any thing extra at all costs.

So there is no true place afterall, that's to be expected. Can't be posting about suicide instead of actually doing my suicide. I pondered to myself, there was a reason I stopped interacting on all sites such as this because at the end of the day it doesn't bring it closer to or further from actually killing myself = the end goal. All it does it stall.

Better to die alone then to talk about it and be ridiculed on how potentially ineffective it is compared to others methods that are otherwise not viable to obtain. So I decide to take the less quick or more brutal route,, whatever works is what matters. Suffering this long, the slow painful death is no different, right?
That's rhetorical.
Place would've been better without the forum, just the methods threads and how to do it right. kinda like lostallhope.com without intervene.