It is important that lower-class and middle-class people stay childless/free

[Galam]

Particularly poor people should remain childless.

After watching a few short documentaries about schools for rich children, it was so obvious that they learn how to stay rich and manipulate people from the middle- and lower-classes so that they have their (working) slaves (puppets) and the middle-class (doctors, psychotherapists, etc.) has slaves (patients) and so on.

The whole food industry became so expensive because of the rich people too. This effect is seen with housing. When the rich buy whole cities and halls for their entertainment, the poorer people who are born there, can't afford this and are pushed away.

As a woman from the lower-class, I am glad not to have children in a world and country like Germany. This is a sick society, and other countries are not much better, as they are all patriarchal.

Nobody does anything against the rich, we just can do something to prevent that they have their slaves.

When I don't think about suicide. I hope we find a way to end this capitalistic circle. When the rich don't have human slaves they cannot be rich anymore it will become an incestuos mass that explodes. For now they don't have the robots to replace everyone and this will not happen without human cattle, especially without women who give birth. Andrea Dworkin wrote so much truth in 'Right Wing Women' about all those farms too.

For does that have some energy, pls make sure to protect vulnerable people from breeding and stop the arrogant middle-class from it, they behave as middle-man pimps. For example the pretty models who are used in advertisement so you buy clothes from a specific label who was created by maybe a 15 year old guy with rich parents. The whole society is a big scam.

 

[DirtCommie]

...so...Malthusian Baboonism basically...

 

[EternalShore]

The whole food industry became so expensive because of the rich people too. This effect is seen with housing. When the rich buy whole cities and halls for their entertainment, the poorer people who are born there, can't afford this and are pushed away.

I just wish we stopped land speculators and corporations from buying up land and houses (i.e.: Bill Gates, AirBnB, BlackRock, etc.~), and artificially reducing the supply of houses, increasing the cost of what one would have to pay for them~ :/

 

[DirtCommie]

I just wish we stopped land speculators and corporations from buying up land and houses (i.e.: Bill Gates, AirBnB, BlackRock, etc.~), and artificially reducing the supply of houses, increasing the cost of what one would have to pay for them~ :/

Indeed. I think according to the usa's most recent census theyve confirmed there are about 16 million vacant homes in the usa right now ....but only 8-900,000 homeless people there...

I am sure that things are similar for the ratio of vacant homes to homeless people in almost every other country on the planet

Meanwhile we have actual convicted criminals like Shill Gates who has multiple homes and multpiple plots of land....why?
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Even tho I myself am sterilized mainly because Im poor I would not force a poor person to never procreate. Im not a natsee or an american eugenicist lol and never will be. I would simply advise them that 1. The world is getting shittier by the day because of crapitalism so just imagime what their children will have to grow up through. How do they know their children will not grow up to deal with a genocide of their kind just as the European Jews in the 40s and PAlestinians deal with today? . It has already been confirmed that in the next 50-100 years there will be approximately 3 BILLION climate change refugees ... (and obviously most of those refugeees will be poor people) How would they know their children would know how to deal with ALL of that... and 2.UNICEF has confirmed that there are approximately 90 million unadopted children globally....pick one of those kids. Why not? Why not make it easier to adopt one of those children if they love children so much? Isnt every child worthy of a loving guardian? No?

If they want to procreate ? Lol thats up to them. Have fun placing all the burden of the future onto that child....

 

[Dejected 55]

This is a catch-22, though... If the people at the top want people at the bottom to reproduce so they have more slaves... and the slaves rebel by not reproducing... that isn't going to hurt the people at the top enough to make the slaves have improved lives... and less slaves means less opportunity to rebel.

The thing that the poor usually have going for them is that they outnumber the people at the top manyfold. It's just, the people at the bottom feel the pressure and feel trapped and don't often feel like they can improve their situation. That is encouraged by the people at the top.

But this is a cutting off your nose to spite your face situation if ever there was one. Cutting your numbers only reduces your power in the long run and the people at the top are already working on ways to do more and more things without human slaves... as the people at the top go further into automation and AI and replace the need for people... they will need less slaves over time to do the things... so you cutting your numbers by refusing to reproduce to "stick it to the man" will not work as well as you think.

Of course anyone can decide to have kids or not for any reason. Personal choice is still (hopefully) a thing... just be careful making that decision to spite others, because it may not result in what you think.