Good, imagine women coming here only to be met with hate and unacceptance by incels. i haven't seen any incel content here and i've been years here
They were able to keep any private views separate from moderating this forum as far as I could tell, any misogyny or more harmful aspects of those who would consider themselves incels were reportable, I reported a couple things of that nature myself (awhile ago) and they were removed.
Otherwise I haven't seen much either.
Unless people consider incel rhetoric to include general lamentation of one's dating status, lack of partners, loneliness, or even being upset with one's appearance (and discrimination stemming from that)..then there really is not any true incel (as we have come to know the term in its more violent and hateful nature) content permitted here.
(As far as I'm aware anyway.)
I was surprised too when I first found out about the admins' links to other websites, but I realized that the community was something different entirely, this website and the whole of the members did not represent those types of views and weren't here for that.
Plus, the admins did a fair job at establishing and supporting this place and those who inhabited it, and who else was going to do it? Where else were/are we supposed to go?
This was/is the only safe haven.
I'm not an incel, but I have seen a concerning amount of incel content. I wouldn't go so far as to say incels are the majority here, though. They're here, but they aren't representatives of the whole.
Like what?
Doesn't mean to hate on women, i have a very high sex drive and always ignored by women and rarely had sex, why should i hate on them? just like i don't wanna sleep with girls i find unattractive, they have that same right too, to be an incel is to be mnetally retarted (and in a very bad way) tbh.
Maybe you were ignored by women because you also ignored many women, ignored the ones who were paying attention to you.
Not that I ever liked the whole nonsense about "leagues", I'm just sayin'.
So yea, in your case, you'd be a hypocrite to align with typical "incel views".
Fair enough.
However not everyone is that staunchly superficial (though most are), especially if they have received the short straw themselves and realize, from experience, that decent and worthy people are beyond appearances.
(I mean, in a way, you're basically hating on some women too, you just don't consider them women apparently.)
Also, from what I can tell, some incels consider themselves merely the strict definition of the phrase (involuntarily celibate) and find that it's much more difficult for them to get attention or have much luck romantically and sexually, they may not even hate women and may just be lonely, trying to understand why they're being treated differently (in the cases of not acting much differently than most).
Then you have the other group of incels who I've seen go by some other names too, or fall within other insidious groups, and they're the ones who incite violence, especially against women, they're the ones who talk about women like animals and shout to get them in their "prime" and "high value/low value" humans, calling for the legalization of rape, all kinds of crazy things…sometimes without so much as a real reason to be upset!
Some of these ones are even well-off and good looking, they're just fucked in the head.
And of course you have the other use of the word incel which some people throw around toward anyone whom they don't like, anyone who they deem pathetic or maybe even a little miserable, it's a catch-all for "virgin loser" nowadays.
If the word ever had a benign or singular meaning, it's been lost in the pile of shit thanks to the general public.
So it may be wise to be aware that the term is not always indicative of malignancy, and is also overused.
(Also I didn't realize "mnetally retarded" was now an acceptable phrase again..)
I'm an incel by definition but I don't hate women because of that. I've never felt I'm entitled to have a gf. Yes it can be hard to live without love but I understand how this life works and it's what it's. It's hard to know that you are undesirable to women but my main pain is that I'm undesirable to society in general. If you are ugly then you don't matter. Gladly there is the option of suicide.
You are a sweet and decent person despite the card you have been dealt, so you are a perfect example of why people should not jump to conclusions when they hear the word "incel" or immediately conflate the person with more harmful associations that they may not even possess.
And yes, sometimes the topics supposed "incels" bring up contain sound and understandable points with bigger implications of society and how we treat people based on appearances, even outside of romantic and sexual relationships, I know more than anyone how valid your pain and suffering is based on your situation and things outside of your control.
I am also glad I have the option of suicide but I would rather have a wish for us both (and those like us) to have another, more favorable chance at life, to be granted.