Discussion NEET / Incel community member in jail for threats and doxxing

[monetpompo]

Agreed, said disenfranchised young males should leave those toxic forums and come here so we can teach them how to kill themselves instead.

type shit

I want to leave you with a lovely story from the Jewish tradition. A powerful metaphor for these situations.

An emperor was in distress because his son, heir to the throne, had gone completely crazy. The son thought he was a turkey (!). He made turkey sounds all day long, refused to wear clothes and pecked at his food on the floor. Nobody was able to help.

Then one day, a respected Rabbi responded to the emperor's plea for help. He confidently claimed that he could help the young man. The emperor was skeptical but told him to go ahead.

The Rabbi entered the room with the boy and took off his clothes. He began making turkey sounds and pecking at the ground. The son asked him who he was, to which the Rabbi explained that he is just another turkey. For days, the two of them strutted around the room, pecking at the ground and making turkey noises.

Then one day, the Rabbi put on some pants. The son asked what he was doing and the Rabbi said it is a good idea and he should do the same. He did so. Now, they were both at least wearing pants. In later days, the Rabbi put his top back on, and the boy did the same. Next, he started eating at the table like a human. And so on.

In time, the son was completely recovered from his turkey disease and the emperor was overjoyed.

@Pluto, i hadn't seeing any of your posts beyond the pictures of cats you send (love them), but your writing is actually really eloquent and beautiful. i really liked the jewish story you shared and your nuanced take on neets!

 

[LaVieEnRose]

@Pluto, i hadn't seeing any of your posts beyond the pictures of cats you send (love them), but your writing is actually really eloquent and beautiful. i really liked the jewish story you shared and your nuanced take on neets!

Believe it or not there was a time when he regularly posted stuff besides cat photos.

Nowadays we savor his erudition when we can.

 

[Pluto]

 

[pollux]

I used to go to lookism.net and the incel site (.me, .co, .is or whatever it is nowadays) during 2017 - 2020 and can say with certainty that there's nothing of value there. Leaving was probably one of the best things I ever did in my life.

The discussions are bad, the vast majority of users aren't worth listening too and I came to consider it (and forums like it) a very elaborate form of rationalization. Every single second spent there is a second of your life gone, so if you go there I'd suggest you do literally anything else.

 

[AnxiousLlama]

Agreed, said disenfranchised young males should leave those toxic forums and come here so we can teach them how to kill themselves instead.

reconsidering killing myself
I used to spend up to 18 hours a day on incels-is, averaging a couple of hours a day for years. I made a few friends but my life sucked. Still sucks, but less so.

This community isn't perfect but I'm sure you can find some support and empathy if you are patient.

Yeah right.



People on incel forums were much more hospitable.

 

[derpyderpins]

reconsidering killing myself
I used to spend up to 18 hours a day on incels-is, averaging a couple of hours a day for years. I made a few friends but my life sucked. Still sucks, but less so.

Yeah right.
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People on incel forums were much more hospitable.

You get that that is one thread, and the most well-received post therein (third down in your screenshot) is saying the post is not okay even as a vent?

Please tell me the more hospitable incel forum you are specifically thinking of so I can offer comparison.

 

[raindrops]

MSN

I implore you, if you are struggling and thinking about getting involved with anyone from those places (neets.net, anything with Incel in the title, anything with "looks" in the title, or anywhere those people go) or those communities, don't do it.

Specifically for young men struggling with loneliness, but also for anyone looking for answers in life: there are multiple paths your life can take from this moment, and those communities have a perfect record for sending you to a darker place.

I'm not saying it's easy or that I have the answers or anything like that. And it's very against my instincts to dismiss groups like that, given that I'm a bit of a contrarian, but they're cesspits, and they always have been. It can always get worse, and they'll make it worse, even if you don't think they did or blame the world and society, etc. They joke about rape, they doxx people, they brag about following women around, they never improve, and they all sign off on that behavior even if they aren't actively participating.

Just don't do it. This community isn't perfect but I'm sure you can find some support and empathy if you are patient. Or seriously walk up to literally anyone and they would be better to talk to.

I lost my mind so much that I wanted someone to hurt me in multiple ways after seeing those communities. The influences I experienced made me unwell in the mind and I had fantasies of someone murdering me, assaulting me, all sorts of evil things. I used my words to try deflect my love for my ex partner though. I needed to forget him. I went to many dark corners. I wanted to numb myself to the point he was gone from my mind. He still hasn't gone, I think of him every day, every night, every second I replay our love. Only when I was using my words to numb myself that's when I forgot about him. It is that very community that tainted my mind to hate and be careless entirely. That's the only time when I didn't think about him...when I was speaking so awful, so degenerate. I couldn't get to know anyone in person, I kept everyone at arms length and seen the internet as a way to numb my pain and be gone from the real world. I faked myself in so many ways, to so many people. I detached from reality, I had delusions that numbed my pain. I think now people may believe the things I have said when they were said only to numb myself and partially ideologies from those communities that I carried with me. I basically used people as a means to forget. I seen him as my forever person, I had hope to be better for him in the past but I couldn't give him what he would have expected from a girlfriend and because I understand I couldn't give him what he needed I am trying to come to terms with I have to move on. It is the incel community that made me hate myself more & more. Understandably I guided myself but I was misguided. I almost feel radicalised. I started to hate females when I am one! I started to hate humanity and I wanted to feel so very numb that community provided the numbness I sought.

Then I finally met someone I so very wish I could have loved fully. I told him I loved him because I loved his personality, his humour, his hobbies yet he was cold and I don't think he had intentions of ever loving me or understanding my decisions. He finally took away the pain for a moment, I don't regret him because how can you regret someone you so wished to spend time with, to love & learn.

Ding ding:

Superiority and inferiority complexes are so closely related.

What they want to say is "the fact that I've done nothing in life, accomplished nothing, succeeded at nothing, overcome nothing, contribute nothing, risk nothing, try nothing, etc, actually makes me BETTER than everyone else."

It's a very unhealthy coping cage to avoid the painful truth: "I've got a lot of work to do on myself. I've got a long way to go. I'm not really anything special right now. I've wasted time"

But they form their little group to reinforce the former

Although I'm female I agree it is exactly that. I had actually started to believe a lot of hideous things online. I have succeeded at nothing. I have nothing so I started to hate myself and wish for the worst things to be done to me. I see now I was easily pulled into it. Now they want to make me an awful person when I met the wrong people and followed the wrong ideologies. It's embarrassing to say I was radicalised. I started to say things I didn't mean to see how it feels, I suppose in reality I was dragged into terrible beliefs because I was already detached from reality, I was delusional and reading that shit reinforced a lot of delusions & detachment. I pray to God now, I read the bible every night, I try to read a passage. Let them see me as evil when it is me who was already mentally gone and fooled.