Is there really no human way to ctb?

[Alain]

Hi everyone,

I've read a lot of stuffs here. Several methods, more or less painful, more or less scientific, more or less efficient. But I can't find a single way to just ctb with no blood, no suffering at all. Something that would be comfortable and easy, requiring only material or drugs easy to get and not expensive as I don't have money.

Will I have to die in pain, without any hum decency, with the risk of failing and wake up few hours or days later?

Does anyone know how to just go to sleep peacefully in my bed and never wake up again?

Please, I'm so tired, so tired of living and suffering. I need to go in peace.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

If there was a way like what you're seeking, that would be the subject of 90% of the threads, and there would hardly be any active members because everyone would have already done it. The only method like that is N, and it's expensive and very difficult to obtain.

Sorry I can't give you want you want. I want the same thing, I wouldn't keep it to myself if I had knowledge of it.

 

[InTheAirTonight]

N, CO, or inert gas are generally the top 3 for painlessness

 

[faust]

Hello,
N, F, H, Morphine, DDMP are peaceful, but they are hard to get and some are very expensive.
Everything for CO method is easy to get but it is a bit less peaceful.
The most popular is SN method but you may experience some discomfort.
So in case if you don't have much money, then it would be SN or CO.
Or night night, but you need to practice first.
Hence unfortunately there are no methods which meet your criteria.
I have a money issue as well, but still prefer N and trying to make everything possible to use this method.
All in all, it is up to you to decide.

 

[Thatdude]

Something that would be comfortable and easy, requiring only material or drugs easy to get and not expensive as I don't have money.

I've notice the same thing. At first I was going to go with the exit bag method. But it is a nightmare getting the parts, making sure everything is 100% right, and what not. Then I came across the night night method. But some are saying that can be a hit or miss. So I'm in the same boat as you.

Just a heads up, if you read some of what is said before people died with SN. There is some discomfort in that. Basically it isn't as clean as many let others believe.

 

[Alain]

At first I was going to go with the exit bag method. But it is a nightmare getting the parts, making sure everything is 100% right, and what not.

Same for me. I bought helium but it seems there is a lot of oxygen in the bottle to avoid "accidents". And to be honest, I don't understand how a regular helium flow won't make the bag explode at some point.

 

[Thinking Beyond]

Nembutal is the king of euthanasia drugs. Fall asleep and never wake up. A source can be found in the peaceful pill handbook.

 

[Thatdude]

I bought helium but it seems there is a lot of oxygen

Ya they started adding it to prevent people from offing themselves. This started after exit bags started becoming popular. However there is other gases that can be used. Nitrogen being one of them. Basically there is gases that can be used that you won't have any o2 in them because in wielding. That would mean a really bad explosion.

I don't understand how a regular helium flow won't make the bag explode at some point.

That's what I mean by 100% right. If your regulator isn't 100% right, then it can do some serious damage to your lungs. And if you're alive at the time, it is possible you can feel it. And I would hate to have my last moments in pain because a lung ripped or exploded.
As far as the bag, if you study gases you can find which is heavier and make your setup right. this forces the co2 to be removed while the gas you want will stay. So you don't tie off the bag, you just let physics do it's thing. Most setups might even have it where you have a higher flow than needed to force any other gasses out. The problem with this is if you get your math wrong or if something doesn't work out. You will wake up with brain damage due, but alive.

Even figuring out how long you have is iffy. Some sources say you just need to have enough gas for 5 min, others say 20 min, and others say an hour and half.

**Rant start** Because how it's so horrible to find any good data, and anything that lets you go peacefully. I wish assisted suicide for non terminal people was legal. Like if a girl can get pregnant, and get a abortion (kill their baby) just because. What backwards logic makes it where they aren't a nut case but I am because I want to die? I thought it was my body my choice. **Rant over**

Nembutal

I just did a random search. I'm iffy on it because it says it's about $1,326 for a supply of 20 milliliters. Is this over or under the counter? Like can you legally get it without seeing a doctor?

 

[lostangel]

Ya they started adding it to prevent people from offing themselves. This started after exit bags started becoming popular. However there is other gases that can be used. Nitrogen being one of them. Basically there is gases that can be used that you won't have any o2 in them because in wielding. That would mean a really bad explosion.



That's what I mean by 100% right. If your regulator isn't 100% right, then it can do some serious damage to your lungs. And if you're alive at the time, it is possible you can feel it. And I would hate to have my last moments in pain because a lung ripped or exploded.
As far as the bag, if you study gases you can find which is heavier and make your setup right. this forces the co2 to be removed while the gas you want will stay. So you don't tie off the bag, you just let physics do it's thing. Most setups might even have it where you have a higher flow than needed to force any other gasses out. The problem with this is if you get your math wrong or if something doesn't work out. You will wake up with brain damage due, but alive.

Even figuring out how long you have is iffy. Some sources say you just need to have enough gas for 5 min, others say 20 min, and others say an hour and half.

**Rant start** Because how it's so horrible to find any good data, and anything that lets you go peacefully. I wish assisted suicide for non terminal people was legal. Like if a girl can get pregnant, and get a abortion (kill their baby) just because. What backwards logic makes it where they aren't a nut case but I am because I want to die? I thought it was my body my choice. **Rant over**



I just did a random search. I'm iffy on it because it says it's about $1,326 for a supply of 20 milliliters. Is this over or under the counter? Like can you legally get it without seeing a doctor?

A doctor won't prescribe you Nembutal, I've heard vets use it to put down animals. It is illegal and you can't just get it online. The websites suggesting they sell it are fake.

Hope this helps, best of luck!

 

[Thatdude]

A doctor won't prescribe you Nembutal, I've heard vets use it to put down animals. It is illegal and you can't just get it online. The websites suggesting they sell it are fake.

Thanks for the heads up. Because of that I'm going to stay away from that one. I want to die, but I don't want to break the law. Let alone have to deal with cops or whomever.

 

[Thinking Beyond]

I just did a random search. I'm iffy on it because it says it's about $1,326 for a supply of 20 milliliters. Is this over or under the counter? Like can you legally get it without seeing a doctor?

It's prescription only. But there is a source in the peaceful pill handbook that sells it for $600 last I checked.

 

[one4all]

PPH Dec 2019

You can check this resource page out for information on the PPH

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/pph-dec-2019.30370/

 

[braketimez]

I've notice the same thing. At first I was going to go with the exit bag method. But it is a nightmare getting the parts, making sure everything is 100% right, and what not. Then I came across the night night method. But some are saying that can be a hit or miss. So I'm in the same boat as you.

Just a heads up, if you read some of what is said before people died with SN. There is some discomfort in that. Basically it isn't as clean as many let others believe.

How "clean" do you think people claim it is?

 

[Thatdude]

How "clean" do you think people claim it is?

Most would let others believe it is extremely peaceful way to go. And there isn't really any talk about what it looks like when people see your corpse. I think mostly this is because lack of knowledge or people ignoring sections of what some are saying when they take the stuff.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Most would let others believe it is extremely peaceful way to go. And there isn't really any talk about what it looks like when people see your corpse. I think mostly this is because lack of knowledge or people ignoring sections of what some are saying when they take the stuff.

You're right that some people seem to want to believe that it's more peaceful than it is, or push that belief when the anecdotal accounts show it's generally not. Some say there is no suffocation, yet breathing difficulties have been reported in over 20% of the accounts of successes. Some folks claim that Moonicide was unconscious and having death rattles, yet the witness account said she lost consciousness after the period of gasping.

There has been, however, plenty of talk of what it physically looks like, and this can be verified with anecdotal accounts of successes and failures, as well as published medical accounts of SN ODs. The skin turns blue or gray.

 

[Notabadguy]

SN is not reliable (7/10 in the PPH9, and you can end up in worse shape.

It's prescription only. But there is a source in the peaceful pill handbook that sells it for $600 last I checked.

$600 for a bottle or for two?, because you need two in order to be completely reliable.

 

[Thinking Beyond]

SN is not reliable (7/10 in the PPH9, and you can end up in worse shape.


$600 for a bottle or for two?, because you need two in order to be completely reliable.

Two from what I remember.

 

[one4all]

SN is not reliable (7/10 in the PPH9, and you can end up in worse shape.

Could you elaborate more on "end up in worse shape"
I know what the PPH is but never heard of the PPH9

 

[Thatdude]

Some folks claim that Moonicide was unconscious and having death rattles, yet the witness account said she lost consciousness after the period of gasping.

That's sad. They seemed nice, and I hope she wasn't gasping for air. I haven't seen or heard anything outside of the forum post. And I didn't know she took her life until a few weeks after. It saddens me to see someone like that go.

 

[Alain]

Thanks for all your answers. It helps me see that there is only one really good solution (Nembutal) but it's illegal and very expensive too. I would like to steal it from a vet I used to see for my dog, because he is the worst vet ever and I would be super happy to know he would be in trouble after I ctb. But let's be realistic, I know will not do that even if if he deserves this kind of shit.

Is there something else I could do ? I often think of violent methods that would be less ugly if we could improve it. For example, cutting my arms veins is something that I wouldn't do, but I would consider it if I could anesthetize the arms and make the blood flow in a container so there would be no blood to clean after I'm found.

Or, I don't know, use a drug that will stop my heart while another puts me to a deep sleep so I won't feel the pain and stress. Damn, I wish I was a doctor so I could find human ways to let people leave this world when they want without any physical or psychological pain.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Have you looked through the Resources Compilation yet?

Thanks for all your answers. It helps me see that there is only one really good solution (Nembutal) but it's illegal and very expensive too. I would like to steal it from a vet I used to see for my dog, because he is the worst vet ever and I would be super happy to know he would be in trouble after I ctb. But let's be realistic, I know will not do that even if if he deserves this kind of shit.

Far more likely that you'll get caught and arrested for stealing.

Or, I don't know, use a drug that will stop my heart while another puts me to a deep sleep so I won't feel the pain and stress.

Chloroquine with valium does exactly that.