is there any RICH PEOPLE in here that want to die despite their wealth and seeming outer success ???

[Arvinneedstodie]

Money isn't everything, but it is a great enabler. A lot of things can all of a sudden become much more possible. If I am rich, the first thing i would do is to access great quality doctors and hopefully finally make some real progress on my health problems. Maybe a simple positive change of environment might drastically improve my mental health, maybe not, hard to know when I'm poor and stuck with not much options.

 

[ThatsAllFolks]

I have a fair amount of wealth due to inheritance after my dads passing years ago. It never made me feel any better. It took away a lot of stress with not having to worry about bills and whatnot, but I'm still alone. I still have existential dread, insomnia, depersonalization, derealization, anxiety, ocd, and no will to live.

 

[RileyTanaka]

Im actually rich. Well into 7 figures. I could do most things I want - buy a nice sports car, catch a business class flight overseas, rent a high class hooker etc. Basically Im in the top 1% of earners (I suspect). But I dont do any of that. I have chronic health problems and Im in chronic pain and I basically do nothing and see nobody. I just wake up and try and grind through each day hoping the pain, nausea, anxiety, depression etc isn't too bad. The best part of my day is sleeping. Money gives me more CTB options and reduces life stresses because it can solve certain problems, but Ive been flat broke (grew up poor) and I was 1000x happier then. Asking whether its more difficult to CTB when you have money is no different from if you have something else in life that brings you pleasure - a passion for music, a beautiful wife, children you adore, a talent that could bring you great fame and fortune etc. Add up all the positives minues the negatives and ask yourself "is life worth the candle?" as Alan Watts says. All I can say is that I would swap all my wealth in a second for my health - a clear mind and strong body, even if for just 5 minutes before I die.

I'm sure you've probably been down this route, but have you been able to hire private doctors to treat you?

 

[LastRide]

Im actually rich. Well into 7 figures. I could do most things I want - buy a nice sports car, catch a business class flight overseas, rent a high class hooker etc. Basically Im in the top 1% of earners (I suspect). But I dont do any of that. I have chronic health problems and Im in chronic pain and I basically do nothing and see nobody. I just wake up and try and grind through each day hoping the pain, nausea, anxiety, depression etc isn't too bad. The best part of my day is sleeping. Money gives me more CTB options and reduces life stresses because it can solve certain problems, but Ive been flat broke (grew up poor) and I was 1000x happier then. Asking whether its more difficult to CTB when you have money is no different from if you have something else in life that brings you pleasure - a passion for music, a beautiful wife, children you adore, a talent that could bring you great fame and fortune etc. Add up all the positives minues the negatives and ask yourself "is life worth the candle?" as Alan Watts says. All I can say is that I would swap all my wealth in a second for my health - a clear mind and strong body, even if for just 5 minutes before I die.

Oh I could not agree more on this ! I'm also quite well off, but have serious health issues and I'd swap my entire fortune for a body in decent working condition! Nothing extraordinary or superhuman, just a body that functions normally and is not making you feel constant pain. And yes, even if it was just for 5 mins I'll take that ! I'm frequently dreaming that I'm able to just run down the street, my legs are working, nothing hurts....only a dream ! Money does not help if you have serious physiological or psychological problems, for those of you who think it does, that's because you never had any, you think it might solve everything, but no it doesn't !

 

[Quarky00]

This is quite a depressing thread (lol) because it shows people who have money -- would ctb ; people who don't and really need it -- would as well ; and people who don't and it wouldn't help them - would ctb also .

Other than rare "incurable" conditions , physical or mental (bipo, schizo, multiple comorbid) , most people's chances of suicide would decrease given wealth , which would allow them more comfort , relief , or better treatment . I assume that some people who think money couldn't help them would be surprised at the care and comfort that can be provided for them ; for others it would be meaningless .

It would be interesting to hear about physically healthy well-off who hasn't lost a close person that want to ctb . And not just to hear about their socioeconomic situation , but why nothing would ever provide any relief for them . That mental state , detailed , would be an insight . Those cases would be rare . Their suicidability should'nt be diminished whatsoever .

 

[LastRide]

This is quite a depressing thread (lol) because it shows people who have money -- would ctb ; people who don't and really need it -- would as well ; and people who don't and it wouldn't help them - would ctb also .

Other than rare "incurable" conditions , physical or mental (bipo, schizo, multiple comorbid) , most people's chances of suicide would decrease given wealth , which would allow them more comfort , relief , or better treatment . I assume that some people who think money couldn't help them would be surprised at the care and comfort that can be provided for them ; for others it would be meaningless .

It would be interesting to hear about physically healthy well-off who hasn't lost a close person that want to ctb . And not just to hear about their socioeconomic situation , but why nothing would ever provide any relief for them . That mental state , detailed , would be an insight . Those cases would be rare . Their suicidability should'nt be diminished whatsoever .

well if you really want to know...money cannot buy health since all doctors are focussed on when you are wealthy and seek their help is how much longer they can make you suffer so they can get a maximum of profit from you! They are not even interested in making you permanently better, since thay would lose income if you actually did ! And what about care and comfort? Do you call it care and comfort havijg to pay someone to wipe your arese since you cannot do it yourself anymore? It is that horrible feeling of dependance, of having to endure an ever decaying body (my diseases are both genetic, so there is no treatment anyway), having to swallow large number of meds that all fuck up your brain, not being able to do all the things you used to enjoy....all of that makes me want to ctb. Even you gave me a billion or if you took every single penny away from me, it would not stop my suffering so why jot choose death to end it all? Give me one valid reason anyone !

 

[Callisto]

Kurt Cobain had a net worth of $50 million at the time of his death

 

[Fire&Ash]

That joke wasn't made by my parents, it was by my sister during a somewhat serious conversation that we had, and even if it was a joke, i could tell (due to her tone, and me knowing her well) that she meant it.

Now, would my parents hate me the same way she would? I don't know, but as loving as they are, we've had problems before.
They're muslim, and i gave up on the religion years ago, today they're kind of used to it (tho, sometimes it's clear they still hold a bit of a grudge about it), but when they first found out, the atmosphere at home was garbage for the longest time.
This situation i'm in right now is much worse, since it involves quite a bit of money to say the least, so while i like them, and they like me, i can't say that i trust them 100% when it comes to not treating me like garbage if i dropout, since they've already betrayed my trust before.

Now, about your advice, my friend, i wish it was as simple as "changing my outlook, not being lazy, studying hard, getting a job, etc", but i can tell you that, as much as i hate myself, and can't help but think i'm just looking for excuses for being a piece of shit, it's much easier said than done.
If it were simple, i would have done all of this already.
But it isn't, i could write many paragraphs about why that's the case, and why i'm so fucked in the head, but i don't even have much energy to do that at the moment.

Can you tell them you want to use your previous degree for a different path? Like research what your bachelors can get you elsewhere?

 

[Straken]

So I'm not "rich" but I have more than enough money after selling my house post divorce. I am living proof that money can't buy happiness. I've tried alot if things even travelled over the new year. It was really good but once you're back to reality sitting at work back to the mundane, then the suicidal ideology always comes back.

 

[Loner]

I am sick and tired of struggling to make ends meet.. Being poor is one of the reasons I want to CTB. If I was rich, I would consider living to make my loved ones happy. I have struggled financially all my life and I am too tired to make any money. I just want to stop existing now.

 

[maru.]

Can you tell them you want to use your previous degree for a different path? Like research what your bachelors can get you elsewhere?

I'm 20 and i don't have a previous degree to rely on, and i don't have the strength to go on with this one, or with any degree for that matter, i'm just tired already, so i'm just trying to push through with med school.
If i make it to the end, wonderful, if i don't, whatever, i''l just ctb.

 

[Awayout]

The sport shooters are a thing, which is true and also makes no sense to me, since anybody could join a sport shooting club to get a license. Even neo nazis or potential terrorists as long as they have no criminal record. But trust me, anybody with a gun here is being looked at different... not in a good way. This is probably why nobody owns a gun here... I live here and I have never seen one in person. The only one having a gun is the 'Förster' and, maybe the sport shooting club members...(Still with strict regulations!) and I know they exist, I had one in my small town, but I have never seen them in action, neither have I ever known somebody who's in there.
So it is possible, but really not benefitting. (Money is also a thing)

But if it's just for a means to ctb who cares how people look at you for getting a gun
I know myself that if I were to become rich all my problems would vanish within a year.

 

[yetme]

rich people also kill themselves:

Forbes Billionaire Bosov Dies by Suicide - The Moscow Times

Russian billionaire and coal baron Dmitry Bosov has died by suicide at his home in a Moscow suburb, authorities said Wednesday.

www.themoscowtimes.com

 

[Didymus]

Money is a necessary evil for most of the people.
The more you have the less you need it, the less you have the more you need it.
I don't have mental problems, but physical ones. Personally, I could afford expensive medical support and treatment, even a brand new artificial heart.

Would it make me happy, I dunno but I damn sure would like to try.

 

[Gregorius]

It makes no difference. Mental Psychic pain knows no poor or rich.

 

[Secrets1]

They say money doesn't buy happiness, but if I was rich it would alleviate many of my problems. I could get plastic surgery. I could choose to travel endlessly without having to work or choose to build a tiny cottage in the woods isolated from everyone. I might still be miserable, but less miserable perhaps.

That stuff usually won't get happiness for more than brief moments. I've been on both sides of the coin. Unless you have other parts of life that are fulfilling money becomes another extra thing to worry about if you have too little or too much. One issue is tougher than the other. On the other hand it generally fucks with our brain, getting material shit makes you want more of it only to realize that's not the magic pill. And money without health, who gives a fuck don't matter at that point.

 

[ManWithNoName]

But trust me, anybody with a gun here is being looked at different... not in a good way.

I do enjoy Germany and German people, but the Germans are strange like that. But being an American and a staunch believer in the 2nd Amendment, I look at the way Germans despise freedom and worship government authority as not something good, so I guess it's all a matter of perspective.

I think gun ownership is a more acceptable in areas like rural Austria.

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rtvi.com

I find this relevant.

The only issue on this article is whether or not it was suicide. There is a lot of back stabbings and whatnot within the upper echelons of the business World, especially in Eastern Europe—the man in question could have been assassinated and his murder covered up. I'm not saying he was murdered, but I always wonder about news stories such as these.

 

[lion4000b]

I'm sure you've probably been down this route, but have you been able to hire private doctors to treat you?

I have my friend. Ive thrown everything at this. I have irreparable physical damage as a result of medical negligence, but the best results I have gotten to improve my health and quality of life were not from any expensive doctor or drugs/supps/therapies, but from adopting basic living principles: eating the best quality food, drinking/bathing pure water, getting heaps of fresh air and sunshine, getting good sleep, cutting out toxic people, reducing tech usage, trying to exercise as much as possible etc. If it werent for my injuries adopting these principles would have cured me. I think most people here with mental or mild physical problems would benefit from living a life more in tune with nature as we had for thousands of years.

 

[Lucifer'sRight]

I'm not rich, but I'm not struggling anymore. The only thing that makes the CTB decision slightly regrettable is that I worked so freaking hard to get out of poverty, all-nighters working/studying and ulcers. Yet I won't even touch most of my savings. But the option to live isn't a better option: I'm tired of having to do everything myself; I want out.

I feel you. i think this touches a more general issue of working hard on ANYTHING and developing your skills and eventually just dying. I think it's a generalized regret we all have even if we plan not to ctb. If you believe your personality survives after you die you can at least be happy with the skills you've gained and discipline you developed. If we do carry on after death then i think it would be logical we get to keep our learned capabilibies, just like we would if we'd just carry on living and moving to another stage. But you can also leave your money to someone you care about, or to someone who does domething you care about. I'd personally give all my money away to an animal sanctuary if i'd have it. they work really hard and ask nothing in return.

Im actually rich. Well into 7 figures. I could do most things I want - buy a nice sports car, catch a business class flight overseas, rent a high class hooker etc. Basically Im in the top 1% of earners (I suspect). But I dont do any of that. I have chronic health problems and Im in chronic pain and I basically do nothing and see nobody. I just wake up and try and grind through each day hoping the pain, nausea, anxiety, depression etc isn't too bad. The best part of my day is sleeping. Money gives me more CTB options and reduces life stresses because it can solve certain problems, but Ive been flat broke (grew up poor) and I was 1000x happier then. Asking whether its more difficult to CTB when you have money is no different from if you have something else in life that brings you pleasure - a passion for music, a beautiful wife, children you adore, a talent that could bring you great fame and fortune etc. Add up all the positives minues the negatives and ask yourself "is life worth the candle?" as Alan Watts says. All I can say is that I would swap all my wealth in a second for my health - a clear mind and strong body, even if for just 5 minutes before I die.

Thanks for your reply, i find your perspective very enriching. I hope you find the clarity you're looking for, in this, or another life.

 

[Cancún]

i haad good incomes not rich but a good quality of life

 

[im_tired]

If I was rich enough to never have to step foot inside an office again for the rest of my days, I might reconsider ctb.

 

[Steve Vermont]

Maru, I am Brazilian, too. You might want to let the people here know that the best medical schools in Brazil are free. So if your parents are paying for an expensive one (PUC, I presume?) it pretty much means that you didn't work your ass off to get in. You're in a situation similar to a lot of kids in the U.S. from rich families who end up in SMAP colleges ("send money and pray"). It sounds like you are in a bind a lot of wealthy kids I know in Brazil are in: you are entirely financially dependent on your family and you can't earn a decent living — or even a living — on your own because salaries are so ridiculously low here. So you have to live the life your parents tell you to live. You can't risk being "disowned" by them.

I have a feel for your situation because I teach med school students like you and, even with my PhD, I probably earn less than what your folks spend on your tuition.

My advice to you is this: drop out. Tranca seu curso. Take a couple of years off and go up to the northeast and do... whatever. Teach English. Yours is good enough. Rent a small room in a flat. Live the working class life for a bit on your own, with no help from the fam.

I mean, if you're gonna end your life anyway, so what, right? You really have nothing to lose. A year or two paying your own rent and cooking your own rice and beans and being the dona de seu próprio nariz might really, really help you get perspective and understand what you really want to do in life.

As for the Americans and Western Europeans posting here, no matter how poor you are, chances are you are pretty damned rich by Brazilian standards. And yet you all feel suicidal, as do I (and all I need to do is look out my window at the shanty town across the way to see how privileged I am).

So that should answer this question.

Let's put it this way: almost all of you are citizens of countries that millions of people risk their lives in order to get in to. That should give you a new perspective on the question being asked here. In short, comparatively speaking, we're all rich.

Does it help any?

 

[Myforevercharlie]

Rich or pore, i don't think it matters much, sure it would be great to be able to pay all the bills.
But I don't know, I've always lived stretching money so far it sometimes becomes ridiculous, but does being rich really solve problems?
I think I would be a bit scared someone just would like me because of the money, money may buy you friends, but how real are those?

And yes, I really believe a lot of depression will minimise by feeling a real connection to someone, if that's love, friendship or both doesn't really matter, attention makes people grow and problems are a bit less heavy when there are people who genuinely care.

But again, my opinion.

 

[mathieu]

If I had money I'd still want to die, I'm sure.

 

[Wishiweredead]

Poor but even if I had money it wouldn't change a thing.

 

[Exitforme]

I'm DIRT POOR...

I can assure you that I would not even consider suicide and would instantly forget about Sanctioned Suicide if I were to somehow acquire $10 million.


Chronic health problems have unfortunately taken away my ability to make ANY income.

 

[Vickyalmighty]

The main reason for my ctb is money. Iam in total debts and want to die. If really any rich personal help me here I can be saved. Just a hope.

 

[S7W5115A9H0]

I wouldn't say I am rich but I would say I am middle class so that I can have a good life in London without worrying about money. I have a good job and I am not dependant on anybody. But money can't help your mind. Even if you can buy the world you cannot run from yourself. And sooner or later your problems will come haunt you. Sure, having money makes life easier as I can tell for sure, because my parents are not rich but have always been really supportive so that I could travel, do sport and have a good education (I am originally from Germany and we have free education there, so that helped too).
But with money you probably also have higher expenses due to higher living-standards, so life is also more expensive and if you fail you fall deep. So maybe money could help in the short-term but I think the only way out of this is healing your soul and that's super hard

 

[healthmatters]

Im actually rich. Well into 7 figures. I could do most things I want - buy a nice sports car, catch a business class flight overseas, rent a high class hooker etc. Basically Im in the top 1% of earners (I suspect). But I dont do any of that. I have chronic health problems and Im in chronic pain and I basically do nothing and see nobody. I just wake up and try and grind through each day hoping the pain, nausea, anxiety, depression etc isn't too bad. The best part of my day is sleeping. Money gives me more CTB options and reduces life stresses because it can solve certain problems, but Ive been flat broke (grew up poor) and I was 1000x happier then. Asking whether its more difficult to CTB when you have money is no different from if you have something else in life that brings you pleasure - a passion for music, a beautiful wife, children you adore, a talent that could bring you great fame and fortune etc. Add up all the positives minues the negatives and ask yourself "is life worth the candle?" as Alan Watts says. All I can say is that I would swap all my wealth in a second for my health - a clear mind and strong body, even if for just 5 minutes before I die.

Im actually rich. Well into 7 figures. I could do most things I want - buy a nice sports car, catch a business class flight overseas, rent a high class hooker etc. Basically Im in the top 1% of earners (I suspect). But I dont do any of that. I have chronic health problems and Im in chronic pain and I basically do nothing and see nobody. I just wake up and try and grind through each day hoping the pain, nausea, anxiety, depression etc isn't too bad. The best part of my day is sleeping. Money gives me more CTB options and reduces life stresses because it can solve certain problems, but Ive been flat broke (grew up poor) and I was 1000x happier then. Asking whether its more difficult to CTB when you have money is no different from if you have something else in life that brings you pleasure - a passion for music, a beautiful wife, children you adore, a talent that could bring you great fame and fortune etc. Add up all the positives minues the negatives and ask yourself "is life worth the candle?" as Alan Watts says. All I can say is that I would swap all my wealth in a second for my health - a clear mind and strong body, even if for just 5 minutes before I die.

Im actually rich. Well into 7 figures. I could do most things I want - buy a nice sports car, catch a business class flight overseas, rent a high class hooker etc. Basically Im in the top 1% of earners (I suspect). But I dont do any of that. I have chronic health problems and Im in chronic pain and I basically do nothing and see nobody. I just wake up and try and grind through each day hoping the pain, nausea, anxiety, depression etc isn't too bad. The best part of my day is sleeping. Money gives me more CTB options and reduces life stresses because it can solve certain problems, but Ive been flat broke (grew up poor) and I was 1000x happier then. Asking whether its more difficult to CTB when you have money is no different from if you have something else in life that brings you pleasure - a passion for music, a beautiful wife, children you adore, a talent that could bring you great fame and fortune etc. Add up all the positives minues the negatives and ask yourself "is life worth the candle?" as Alan Watts says. All I can say is that I would swap all my wealth in a second for my health - a clear mind and strong body, even if for just 5 minutes before I die.

Yes, health is wealth. I've always known and valued that, and worked to educate others. I may be able to share some helpful info, if you'd like to PM me.

 

[angie]

The main reason for my ctb is money. Iam in total debts and want to die. If really any rich personal help me here I can be saved. Just a hope.

What country are you in ? Surely you can declare yourself bankrupt and get financial help from other areas ,money is not worth ctb over if thats your only reason . I was in debt my business went bankrupt but although it was hard to accept and left me with nothing ,i never felt i wanted to ctb ,there is so much help out there if you ask for it , I picked myself up and struggled through ,but now i have a terminal illness and i cant be saved and im trying to save off my benefits to go to dignitas . so if anyone is spreading there excess wealth around they can keep me in mind too! thank you .
If i had excess money i would be helping others as much as i could, you cant take it with you ,so may as well help others where you can is my theory , this covid 19 as made a lot of people more considerate of others situations so that is something positive thats perhaps came out of the current pandemic .