Is there any method that is better than Inert Gas? I want my cbt to feel as close to sleeping as possible.

[SanctionedSquad]

Hello.
I did some research and I am pretty sure that I will use inert gas for my last day.
What I like about it is that it is as far as I know the most painless method which is important.
The problem is that I have to hyper ventilate and place a mask on my head and sit in a chair, this doesn't feel like going to bed at all.
When I go to bed I sleep without a mask and I am not in a chair and I breath normally and I go into sleeping slowly instead of going unconscious directly.

I already tried to cbt in the past by an heroin overdose, I liked it that I would have "the best feeling on the world" before death as many people have stated, the problem was it wasn't feeling like heaven at all, everything just got blurry and I slept and woke up in a hospital later, it would have been painless but it wasn't feeling like heaven or sleeping normally.
I snorted the heroin instead of injecting, maybe that is why I didn't feel "heaven".

Inert Gas wouldn't give me a special high and doesn't feel like going to bed.
I thought about using nembutal and I found a seller who sent proof with his email name written on paper sheet next to his nembutal bottles but I still don't know if it is scam and I don't think I could swallow something bitter and the capsules could fail.

Prehaps I could smoke a bit of heroin before cbt with inert gas to feel the like the warmth of a blanket when I die?
But then I am worried that I would nod off and survive.

When I tried to cbt in the past I took 4mg xanax before it, it killed most of my survival instinct, I had an instinct to end my life, I just snorted the heroin powder, I didn't even bother one second.
But with xanax I am worried that I would be too numb to cbt.

I just want my cbt to feel like I am lying in my bed with no worries and then sleeping in and never waking up.

Is there no way to do inert gas in bed and with a face only mask to make it feel more like that?

Do you know anything I could do to make it feel the most like sleeping?

 

[orca87]

I have the same thoughts and priorities in choosing my method. Peaceful and close to sleep.
It has also to be quick and with little risk ending as a veggie

Other than the holy N, there is no "perfect" method.

My intent is to use inert gas for the same reasoning that you wrote about. I might add some lorazepam

But other than that, I don't see any more peaceful method

 

[outrider567]

Hello.
I did some research and I am pretty sure that I will use inert gas for my last day.
What I like about it is that it is as far as I know the most painless method which is important.
The problem is that I have to hyper ventilate and place a mask on my head and sit in a chair, this doesn't feel like going to bed at all.
When I go to bed I sleep without a mask and I am not in a chair and I breath normally and I go into sleeping slowly instead of going unconscious directly.

I already tried to cbt in the past by an heroin overdose, I liked it that I would have "the best feeling on the world" before death as many people have stated, the problem was it wasn't feeling like heaven at all, everything just got blurry and I slept and woke up in a hospital later, it would have been painless but it wasn't feeling like heaven or sleeping normally.
I snorted the heroin instead of injecting, maybe that is why I didn't feel "heaven".

Inert Gas wouldn't give me a special high and doesn't feel like going to bed.
I thought about using nembutal and I found a seller who sent proof with his email name written on paper sheet next to his nembutal bottles but I still don't know if it is scam and I don't think I could swallow something bitter and the capsules could fail.

Prehaps I could smoke a bit of heroin before cbt with inert gas to feel the like the warmth of a blanket when I die?
But then I am worried that I would nod off and survive.

When I tried to cbt in the past I took 4mg xanax before it, it killed most of my survival instinct, I had an instinct to end my life, I just snorted the heroin powder, I didn't even bother one second.
But with xanax I am worried that I would be too numb to cbt.

I just want my cbt to feel like I am lying in my bed with no worries and then sleeping in and never waking up.

Is there no way to do inert gas in bed and with a face only mask to make it feel more like that?

Do you know anything I could do to make it feel the most like sleeping?

There is no better method than Inert Gas except for Nembutal, which nobody can get

Hello.
I did some research and I am pretty sure that I will use inert gas for my last day.
What I like about it is that it is as far as I know the most painless method which is important.
The problem is that I have to hyper ventilate and place a mask on my head and sit in a chair, this doesn't feel like going to bed at all.
When I go to bed I sleep without a mask and I am not in a chair and I breath normally and I go into sleeping slowly instead of going unconscious directly.

I already tried to cbt in the past by an heroin overdose, I liked it that I would have "the best feeling on the world" before death as many people have stated, the problem was it wasn't feeling like heaven at all, everything just got blurry and I slept and woke up in a hospital later, it would have been painless but it wasn't feeling like heaven or sleeping normally.
I snorted the heroin instead of injecting, maybe that is why I didn't feel "heaven".

Inert Gas wouldn't give me a special high and doesn't feel like going to bed.
I thought about using nembutal and I found a seller who sent proof with his email name written on paper sheet next to his nembutal bottles but I still don't know if it is scam and I don't think I could swallow something bitter and the capsules could fail.

Prehaps I could smoke a bit of heroin before cbt with inert gas to feel the like the warmth of a blanket when I die?
But then I am worried that I would nod off and survive.

When I tried to cbt in the past I took 4mg xanax before it, it killed most of my survival instinct, I had an instinct to end my life, I just snorted the heroin powder, I didn't even bother one second.
But with xanax I am worried that I would be too numb to cbt.

I just want my cbt to feel like I am lying in my bed with no worries and then sleeping in and never waking up.

Is there no way to do inert gas in bed and with a face only mask to make it feel more like that?

Do you know anything I could do to make it feel the most like sleeping?

You don't have to sit in a chair but taking deep breaths to expel the oxygen out is indeed recommended

 

[SanctionedSquad]

There is no better method than Inert Gas except for Nembutal, which nobody can get

There are some places in which it is otc afaik, would it be worth to go there and cbt in a hotel?

You don't have to sit in a chair but taking deep breaths to expel the oxygen out is indeed recommended

In pph it states that I should sit in a chair.

How exactly should I breath so I can't survive?

 

[outrider567]

There are some places in which it is otc afaik, would it be worth to go there and cbt in a hotel?


In pph it states that I should sit in a chair.

How exactly should I breath so I can't survive?

Just breathe normally, the Nitrogen and Hood work together to get rid of the oxygen in our body

 

[GasMonkey]

Since you are talking about masks I'm assuming you mean SCBA.

The problem is that I have to hyper ventilate and place a mask on my head and sit in a chair

You don't have to do any of that with SCBA (or EEBD), that's only for the ExitBag.

In pph it states that I should sit in a chair.

Nope, the PPH doesn't say that.

and doesn't feel like going to bed.

You can lay in bed, in fact that's what most people CTBing with SCBAs do.

Prehaps I could smoke a bit of heroin before cbt with inert gas to feel the like the warmth of a blanket when I die?

None of that is needed. With inert gas you literally vanish from existence in a few breaths (from your PoV) in a few minutes (from the external PoV), you don't need to take anything to feel something "meanwhile" because there is no "meanwhile", this is no N or SN where you take it and them you have to wait for it to make effect, with inert gas you black out without even noticing.​

I just want my cbt to feel like I am lying in my bed with no worries and then sleeping in and never waking up.

You don't have time to worry about anything.

But then I am worried that I would nod off and survive.

Only minor movements (if any at all) have been observed in the CTB studies like the Dignitas and Russel Ogden ones. But anyway is impossible to have the finesse required to remove a well tightened SCBA mask with 5 attachment points while unconscious.

I have laughted with the bUt iT dOeSn'T fEEL LikE gOiNg bEd, you say the word bed a bunch of times in the post.

Other than the holy N, there is no "perfect" method.

N doesn't remove the "SI opportunity window" (time between taking it and the effect), in fact there are documented cases of people surviving N due to their SI making them call to emergency in the wait time. With inert gas that window is completely removed from the equation.

There are also documented cases of people surviving N due to being found before death. With a proper inert gas setup that's almost impossible (due to how fast it kills), you would have to be found virtually immediately.

If we could run 100.000 iterations of ingested black market vet N and 100.000 iterations of SCBA, I have no doubts that SCBA would come on top.​

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Inert gas is right up there to achieve the type of CTB you desire. I'd say that CO, if done correctly, could produce the same, peaceful results. I think an OD on Fentanyl or Heroin would also produce the CTB you desire, maybe injecting it instead of snorting it, as you stated in your post. Obviously N could work, but it's really out of the question now.

 

[my-end]

Hello.
I did some research and I am pretty sure that I will use inert gas for my last day.
What I like about it is that it is as far as I know the most painless method which is important.
The problem is that I have to hyper ventilate and place a mask on my head and sit in a chair, this doesn't feel like going to bed at all.
When I go to bed I sleep without a mask and I am not in a chair and I breath normally and I go into sleeping slowly instead of going unconscious directly.

I already tried to cbt in the past by an heroin overdose, I liked it that I would have "the best feeling on the world" before death as many people have stated, the problem was it wasn't feeling like heaven at all, everything just got blurry and I slept and woke up in a hospital later, it would have been painless but it wasn't feeling like heaven or sleeping normally.
I snorted the heroin instead of injecting, maybe that is why I didn't feel "heaven".

Inert Gas wouldn't give me a special high and doesn't feel like going to bed.
I thought about using nembutal and I found a seller who sent proof with his email name written on paper sheet next to his nembutal bottles but I still don't know if it is scam and I don't think I could swallow something bitter and the capsules could fail.

Prehaps I could smoke a bit of heroin before cbt with inert gas to feel the like the warmth of a blanket when I die?
But then I am worried that I would nod off and survive.

When I tried to cbt in the past I took 4mg xanax before it, it killed most of my survival instinct, I had an instinct to end my life, I just snorted the heroin powder, I didn't even bother one second.
But with xanax I am worried that I would be too numb to cbt.

I just want my cbt to feel like I am lying in my bed with no worries and then sleeping in and never waking up.

Is there no way to do inert gas in bed and with a face only mask to make it feel more like that?

Do you know anything I could do to make it feel the most like sleeping?

Man. If I had a way to be knocked out when I use the gas, that would be the way, but no access plus lack of procedure. So I'm just counting on hyperventilating heavily with as many deep breaths as possible to pass out quickly.

 

[SanctionedSquad]

Inert gas is right up there to achieve the type of CTB you desire. I'd say that CO, if done correctly, could produce the same, peaceful results. I think an OD on Fentanyl or Heroin would also produce the CTB you desire, maybe injecting it instead of snorting it, as you stated in your post. Obviously N could work, but it's really out of the question now.

But opioid overdose has a high change of not working because it takes long and there is naloxone.

How loud is inert gas?
I don't want to be found midway in, I wouldn't want to be a veggi.

 

[freelifexit]

I thought about using nembutal and I found a seller who sent proof with his email name written on paper sheet next to his nembutal bottles but I still don't know if it is scam

Most likely it's a scam.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

But opioid overdose has a high change of not working because it takes long and there is naloxone.

I think there's a chance with most methods of not working. With opioids, I guess it depends on how much you take and whether you are found before you succumb. Doing it in a place and at a time where you're unlikely to be found would be the best bet.

 

[outrider567]

But opioid overdose has a high change of not working because it takes long and there is naloxone.

How loud is inert gas?
I don't want to be found midway in, I wouldn't want to be a veggi.

Its not that loud at all

 

[SanctionedSquad]

Its not that loud at all

My Mother found me only cause of my extremely loud breathing while od

 

[GasMonkey]

Trying to CTB in a house with other people present is not a good idea.

 

[SanctionedSquad]

I think there's a chance with most methods of not working. With opioids, I guess it depends on how much you take and whether you are found before you succumb. Doing it in a place and at a time where you're unlikely to be found would be the best bet.

I tried to dissolve 3 grams of heroin in water but I was too dumb to get it in the syringe, it was too thick.
But except that and that needles are disgusting why is inert gas preffered?

Since you are talking about masks I'm assuming you mean SCBA.


You don't have to do any of that with SCBA (or EEBD), that's only for the ExitBag.

Is there a guide on how to do it with scba or eebd? Cause that is not listed in pph.
How does the carbon dioxide go out after breathing out?

Nope, the PPH doesn't say that.

I was pretty sure that it stated that you should sit in a chair.

None of that is needed. With inert gas you literally vanish from existence in a few breaths (from your PoV) in a few minutes (from the external PoV), you don't need to take anything to feel something "meanwhile" because there is no "meanwhile", this is no N or SN where you take it and them you have to wait for it to make effect, with inert gas you black out without even noticing.

I meant while putting the scba on and starting the process to not be scared so much and for the few seconds that you can stop the process.

Only minor movements (if any at all) have been observed in the CTB studies like the Dignitas and Russel Ogden ones. But anyway is impossible to have the finesse required to remove a well tightened SCBA mask with 5 attachment points while unconscious.

What about falling from the chair and braking the cable?

Trying to CTB in a house with other people present is not a good idea.

Bringing inert gas to a hotel is virtually impossible.
I haven't finished school but I could get a bad paid job to get an apartment and sell everything I have to buy the inert gas and do it there.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I tried to dissolve 3 grams of heroin in water but I was too dumb to get it in the syringe, it was too thick.
But except that and that needles are disgusting why is inert gas preffered?

Proven, painless, effective, quick, easier to obtain (legally). TBH, it's not my method (CO), but it ranks high on the list of preferred methods. And let's be honest, not everyone has connections to obtain opioids. Inert gas seems to meet your criteria. @GasMonkey is the resident inert gas guru. He can help you with anything you need to know.

 

[my-end]

I tried to dissolve 3 grams of heroin in water but I was too dumb to get it in the syringe, it was too thick.
But except that and that needles are disgusting why is inert gas preffered?

Is there a guide on how to do it with scba or eebd? Cause that is not listed in pph.
How does the carbon dioxide go out after breathing out?

I was pretty sure that it stated that you should sit in a chair.


I meant while putting the scba on and starting the process to not be scared so much and for the few seconds that you can stop the process.


What about falling from the chair and braking the cable?

Bringing inert gas to a hotel is virtually impossible.
I haven't finished school but I could get a bad paid job to get an apartment and sell everything I have to buy the inert gas and do it there.

Idk. After check in, a 40 could be brought in through a side door. Maybe wrap a towel around it. Def not light, could throw it on the shoulder. Cams might catch it but not likely being monitored. They might see after the fact.

 

[SanctionedSquad]

Idk. After check in, a 40 could be brought in through a side door. Maybe wrap a towel around it. Def not light, could throw it on the shoulder. Cams might catch it but not likely being monitored. They might see after the fact.

I don't understand the sentence.

Proven, painless, effective, quick, easier to obtain (legally). TBH, it's not my method (CO), but it ranks high on the list of preferred methods. And let's be honest, not everyone has connections to obtain opioids. Inert gas seems to meet your criteria. @GasMonkey is the resident inert gas guru. He can help you with anything you need to know.

I have many questions that are not answered in the pph.
For example which exact scba or eebd I should use that works but isn't too expensive or which regulator.

 

[soontobedone]

At one point I was so desperate, I wondered if I could use a plastic bag and just squeeze multiple helium balloons into it. Lol

 

[Sparx]

I'm considering an RC benzo & RC opioid OD. The plan is to take the benzo first with alcohol then when I'm near the point of passing out take the opioid in enteric capsules (which only release in the small intestine so shouldn't be vomited out). When the opioid hits the bloodstream the combination of the drugs & alcohol should cause enough respiratory depression to ctb.

In theory it should just be like falling asleep and never waking up. At least I hope so.

 

[GasMonkey]

Is there a guide on how to do it with scba or eebd?

I haven't made any guides, just posts here. Depends on your location, if there is an air-to-nitrogen adapter for your region you can connect any SCBA to a Nitrogen cylinder using the adapter, that's what Wunderkind, DOGMA67, LetzteAusfahrt, SlovakGuy, Scrooge, me and many others did. You can also get a Canadian kit for your region like Bengal or imcadt99. The EEBD hood is another type of implementation also from the Canadian source.​

How does the carbon dioxide go out after breathing out?

One-way valves.

I was pretty sure that it stated that you should sit in a chair.

Nah. The PPeH has always said "reclining comfortably in a sofa". It advises not to lay down with the ExitBag to have a better CO₂ purging, but lots of people have CTB'd laying down with ExitBags.​

What about falling from the chair and braking the cable?

Again, you must NOT be in a 90º chair and the hose must be long enough to have margin of movement. Only minor movements (if any at all) have been observed in the CTB studies like the Dignitas and Russel Ogden ones.​

Bringing inert gas to a hotel is virtually impossible.

You can perfectly hide a decent sized cylinder in a box/backpack/suitcase like Crushed_Innocence did, she used a 40ft³ cylinder which has a whopping 1132 Liters of gas.​

 

[SanctionedSquad]

I haven't made any guides, just posts here. Depends on your location, if there is an air-to-nitrogen adapter for your region you can connect any SCBA to a Nitrogen cylinder using the adapter, that's what Wunderkind, DOGMA67, LetzteAusfahrt, SlovakGuy, Scrooge, me and many others did. You can also get a Canadian kit for your region like Bengal or imcadt99. The EEBD hood is another type of implementation also from the Canadian source.​

I thought it was not recommended by Greenberg to use adapters?
And also, which is a good cheap eebd or scba Ibcan use? I don't have much money.

I'm considering an RC benzo & RC opioid OD. The plan is to take the benzo first with alcohol then when I'm near the point of passing out take the opioid in enteric capsules (which only release in the small intestine so shouldn't be vomited out). When the opioid hits the bloodstream the combination of the drugs & alcohol should cause enough respiratory depression to ctb.

In theory it should just be like falling asleep and never waking up. At least I hope so.

My mother was soom rooms away but could still hear me, it is too loud and you can survive it with brain damage.

 

[GasMonkey]

I thought it was not recommended by Greenberg to use adapters?

There are no problems with that adapters, I have tested them and they have proven to work many times.
In the case of the EM SCBA it uses no adapters, the demand valve connects directly to a nitrogen regulator.​

And also, which is a good cheap eebd or scba Ibcan use? I don't have much money.

Depends on what you consider cheap, but generally there are not cheap SCBAs/EEBDs unless you go for the second-hand market like Wunderkind did. The cheapest inert gas implementation is the homemade ExitBag.​

Nembutal isn't cheap either, the seller can easily ask $1000 for it.

Where are you from?

 

[SanctionedSquad]

Depends on what you consider cheap, but generally there are not cheap SCBAs/EEBDs unless you go for the second-hand market like Wunderkind did. The cheapest inert gas implementation is the homemade ExitBag.​

I need something under 600 preferably.
I have 100€ and I could sell my pc for 500€, I also get some money from my dead grandma that I can use and I can maybe get money from my other grandma but thats it.
How exactly can I find second hand kits for inert gas?

Where are you from?.

Germany

Where are you from?.

Germany

 

[my-end]

I don't understand the sentence.

I have many questions that are not answered in the pph.
For example which exact scba or eebd I should use that works but isn't too expensive or which regulator.

A 40 cf cylinder of gas could be brought in through a side door of a hotel after checking in.

 

[vaguebluur]

Hello.
I did some research and I am pretty sure that I will use inert gas for my last day.
What I like about it is that it is as far as I know the most painless method which is important.
The problem is that I have to hyper ventilate and place a mask on my head and sit in a chair, this doesn't feel like going to bed at all.
When I go to bed I sleep without a mask and I am not in a chair and I breath normally and I go into sleeping slowly instead of going unconscious directly.

I already tried to cbt in the past by an heroin overdose, I liked it that I would have "the best feeling on the world" before death as many people have stated, the problem was it wasn't feeling like heaven at all, everything just got blurry and I slept and woke up in a hospital later, it would have been painless but it wasn't feeling like heaven or sleeping normally.
I snorted the heroin instead of injecting, maybe that is why I didn't feel "heaven".

Inert Gas wouldn't give me a special high and doesn't feel like going to bed.
I thought about using nembutal and I found a seller who sent proof with his email name written on paper sheet next to his nembutal bottles but I still don't know if it is scam and I don't think I could swallow something bitter and the capsules could fail.

Prehaps I could smoke a bit of heroin before cbt with inert gas to feel the like the warmth of a blanket when I die?
But then I am worried that I would nod off and survive.

When I tried to cbt in the past I took 4mg xanax before it, it killed most of my survival instinct, I had an instinct to end my life, I just snorted the heroin powder, I didn't even bother one second.
But with xanax I am worried that I would be too numb to cbt.

I just want my cbt to feel like I am lying in my bed with no worries and then sleeping in and never waking up.

Is there no way to do inert gas in bed and with a face only mask to make it feel more like that?

Do you know anything I could do to make it feel the most like sleeping?

I was going to ctb via nitrogen hood but decided to take a very specific overdose with 100% mortality, it killed me but I was defibrillated twice and brought back. I took GBL alprazolam ansld alcohol sooo peaceful

 

[Sunset Limited]

I think opioid analgesics such as isotonitazene, which are frequently mentioned in the forum these days, can be an alternative to N. They are as strong as F.