Method Is my plan bulletproof?

[Meatshell]

Some relevant details before I go over my plan:
About 2.5 years ago I've made my first attempt to CTB by swallowing a bunch of what I knew were fake pills. I survived an overdose. I tried to CTB again with different pills, but knew it wouldn't work… so this one doesn't really count. Less than a year ago I tried again, this time with 4000mg worth of sleeping pills (Ambien) that I had collected for months. Unfortunately, I managed to swallow only about a tenth of it before falling asleep, as I was afraid would happen. The good news, I've had a long nap (3 days straight!) which I spent sleepwalking… and apparently hit the bathroom sink and injured myself. When I was found, in my bed, I lied that I couldn't remember what or how this happened.

Since then I've been trying to find another way out. I have a few ideas but before I get desperate enough to try them I'd like to try a method not as difficult/painful.
So months after my last attempt and with a shiny battle scar by my left eye, I think I'm onto a solid plan:

I'm gonna get hypothermia in the bathtub and, since I learned that you better have a plan B, I'm gonna use sleeping pills to ensure that if I don't get hypothermia for whatever reason I still submerge and drown. The sleeping pills will also ensure that I stay unconscious the entire time and that way the hypothermia will also kick in faster and I will die within a few hours tops.
I live by myself but people would check on me if I disappeared for 2-3 days… more than enough time for me to execute my plan.
I plan to get those silicone molds people use to make soap, each can hold approx. 1.5kg / 3.3ibs of ice, so I'm gonna prepare about 20-30kg / 44-66ibs worth of ice to fill about a third to half of the tub (rest is water).
When time comes, I plan to first take 2-3 pills and then get in a *relatively* warn water, then start placing in the water the giant ice cubes one by one, then take as many of the sleeping pills as I manage to take before drifting off with ice slowly melting away around me.
I plan to wear a hoodie over light clothing so I can withstand the initial feeling of cold.
Also, I live in a warm climate but my air conditioner is quite strong.
It's also important to note that my average body temp. is a bit lower than most people's (35-35.5°C / 95°F).
I'm also hoping that due to all these conditions I don't paradoxically undress lol, but that's the least of my worries.

How does that sound? Is my math alright? Is there something I'm missing? Or something I can do to improve my chances?

 

[jorheslen428]

I mean this sounds overly complicated imo. I'd recommend choosing something that's known to be reliable and well documented.

Drowning in a bathtub with sleeping pills sounds more feasible than the whole hypothermia thing (your body would need to be at negative 30 degrees Fahrenheit for hypothermia to set in, pretty sure ice cubes at 30 degrees ain't gonna cut it dude). It's not gonna work unless you have an industrial grade freezer or travel to the Himalayas.

 

[Meatshell]

I mean this sounds overly complicated imo. I'd recommend choosing something that's known to be reliable and well documented.

Drowning in a bathtub with sleeping pills sounds more feasible than the whole hypothermia thing (your body would need to be at negative 30 degrees Fahrenheit for hypothermia to set in, pretty sure ice cubes at 30 degrees ain't gonna cut it dude). It's not gonna work unless you have an industrial grade freezer or travel to the Himalayas.

Not even a few days in the cold water?
I read that it doesn't need to be this cold to get hypothermia.

I'd recommend choosing something that's known to be reliable and well documented.

That's a good tip.

It's not gonna work unless you have an industrial grade freezer or travel to the Himalayas.

My home is practically a freezer, the air conditioner is set to the minimum (16C) 24/7. People who visit me always bring a sweater/blanket with them. Would adding a fan to the mix do something?

 

[jorheslen428]

I would abandon this plan if I were you, from the research I've done it seems most who choose this do it in extremely cold weather conditions.

If death by air conditioning was a thing a lot of people would be dead by now. You're not going to kill yourself with an air conditioner (though I'd be impressed of you somehow managed it).

Are you trolling? I genuinely can't tell

 

[Meatshell]

I would abandon this plan if I were you, from the research I've done it seems most who choose this do it in extremely cold weather conditions.

If death by air conditioning was a thing a lot of people would be dead by now. You're not going to kill yourself with an air conditioner (though I'd be impressed of you somehow managed it).

Are you trolling? I genuinely can't tell

Death by air conditioning? Where did I lose you? The air conditioner will simply keep the room temperature down, it's not the method. The plan is to fall unconscious for a long time in a bath filled with freezing water.

If death by air conditioning was a thing I wouldn't be here, I would be dead by now since I love the cold.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I could never understand how anyone could ever submerge themselves in a bathtub, conscious or unconscious. Most people are just so much taller than a bathtub is long, it just seems so implausible to me.

 

[Kittzuni]

If death by air conditioning was a thing a lot of people would be dead by now.

That's the funniest thing I've read all week. Thank you.

@OP this really does sound unreliable, I'd choose another methode if I were you.

 

[Meatshell]

I could never understand how anyone could ever submerge themselves in a bathtub, conscious or unconscious. Most people are just so much taller than a bathtub is long, it just seems so implausible to me.

I don't understand either, but apparently it happens. Also, I'm quite tiny.

That's the funniest thing I've read all week. Thank you.

It is funny. Thank god it's not what I said lol

@OP this really does sound unreliable, I'd choose another methode if I were you.

Thanks
Drowning aside (which is the plan B anyway), is sitting in freezing bath water for a long time feasible?

 

[MewtwoIsAlive]

It wont work, its not enough. Youll just suffer.

 

[jorheslen428]

Death by air conditioning? Where did I lose you? The air conditioner will simply keep the room temperature down, it's not the method. The plan is to fall unconscious for a long time in a bath filled with freezing water.

If death by air conditioning was a thing I wouldn't be here, I would be dead by now since I love the cold.

To me that still sounds like death by air conditioning with extra steps. I'm guessing the ice would melt, and even if it didn't, it would still fail to keep your body temp down for the time required to get hypothermia.

I'd do the math on this but I'm too lazy, I highly suggest you do it though if you plan on going through with this.

Sorry if I came off as rude. Tbh death by hypothermia does seem nice (most people describe feeling very warm as they pass out), but the way you're describing just comes off as highly impractical.

 

[Meatshell]

It wont work, its not enough. Youll just suffer.

What's not enough? Not cold enough? Not long enough?
And suffer how?

I'd do the math on this but I'm too lazy, I highly suggest you do it though if you plan on going through with this.

I'll do it. What would I need to calculate?

Sorry if I came off as rude. Tbh death by hypothermia does seem nice (most people describe feeling very warm as they pass out), but the way you're describing just comes off as highly impractical.

Thanks. My starting point was actually the sleeping pills. Like I said, I failed to die of overdose before (unsurprisingly), but having them at hand is still a huge advantage and I would like to use them in some way. The fact that I can get unconscious for up to 3 days. So if you have any other ideas....

 

[MewtwoIsAlive]

What's not enough? Not cold enough? Not long enough?
And suffer how?

I'll do it. What would I need to calculate?

Thanks. My starting point was actually the sleeping pills. Like I said, I failed to die of overdose before (unsurprisingly), but having them at hand is still a huge advantage and I would like to use them in some way. The fact that I can get unconscious for up to 3 days. So if you have any other ideas....

Just abandon this idea, trust me.

 

[Meatshell]

Just abandon this idea, trust me.

Okay, very helpful.

 

[Vizzy]

Some relevant details before I go over my plan:
About 2.5 years ago I've made my first attempt to CTB by swallowing a bunch of what I knew were fake pills. I survived an overdose. I tried to CTB again with different pills, but knew it wouldn't work… so this one doesn't really count. Less than a year ago I tried again, this time with 4000mg worth of sleeping pills (Ambien) that I had collected for months. Unfortunately, I managed to swallow only about a tenth of it before falling asleep, as I was afraid would happen. The good news, I've had a long nap (3 days straight!) which I spent sleepwalking… and apparently hit the bathroom sink and injured myself. When I was found, in my bed, I lied that I couldn't remember what or how this happened.

Since then I've been trying to find another way out. I have a few ideas but before I get desperate enough to try them I'd like to try a method not as difficult/painful.
So months after my last attempt and with a shiny battle scar by my left eye, I think I'm onto a solid plan:

I'm gonna get hypothermia in the bathtub and, since I learned that you better have a plan B, I'm gonna use sleeping pills to ensure that if I don't get hypothermia for whatever reason I still submerge and drown. The sleeping pills will also ensure that I stay unconscious the entire time and that way the hypothermia will also kick in faster and I will die within a few hours tops.
I live by myself but people would check on me if I disappeared for 2-3 days… more than enough time for me to execute my plan.
I plan to get those silicone molds people use to make soap, each can hold approx. 1.5kg / 3.3ibs of ice, so I'm gonna prepare about 20-30kg / 44-66ibs worth of ice to fill about a third to half of the tub (rest is water).
When time comes, I plan to first take 2-3 pills and then get in a *relatively* warn water, then start placing in the water the giant ice cubes one by one, then take as many of the sleeping pills as I manage to take before drifting off with ice slowly melting away around me.
I plan to wear a hoodie over light clothing so I can withstand the initial feeling of cold.
Also, I live in a warm climate but my air conditioner is quite strong.
It's also important to note that my average body temp. is a bit lower than most people's (35-35.5°C / 95°F).
I'm also hoping that due to all these conditions I don't paradoxically undress lol, but that's the least of my worries.

How does that sound? Is my math alright? Is there something I'm missing? Or something I can do to improve my chances?

Sorry you are going throw this, you can't make hypothermia setup at home only the nature can do that so try some cold countries!

If you gonna do hypothermia make sure no one find you because coming out of it really hard

 

[squirley]

If you're comfortable in the bath tub...
wouldn't "shallow water black out" work ?
Plus the sleeping pills ?


Havnt seen it before, other then movies but don't people throw AC units and hair dryers in the tub and get electrocuted?
Not sure if that's a real thing though.

Anyway sucks you've found your self here but good luck in whatever you choose

 

[Meatshell]

Sorry you are going throw this, you can't make hypothermia setup at home only the nature can do that so try some cold countries!

Thanks. If only it were easy to just go to another country!

If you're comfortable in the bath tub...
wouldn't "shallow water black out" work ?
Plus the sleeping pills ?

Not sure it'll work as a plan A.

Havnt seen it before, other then movies but don't people throw AC units and hair dryers in the tub and get electrocuted?
Not sure if that's a real thing though.

I looked into it before. I remember seeing on the news about a girl who dropped a hair dryer or something in the tub and died, so I guess it can happen.
I've looked into different electrifying methods, but if you're not an experienced electrician the risk of it is too high if you survive...

Anyway sucks you've found your self here but good luck in whatever you choose

Thanks. I'm comforted by the fact that this way or another we will all die someday.

 

[jorheslen428]

What's not enough? Not cold enough? Not long enough?
And suffer how?

I'll do it. What would I need to calculate?

Thanks. My starting point was actually the sleeping pills. Like I said, I failed to die of overdose before (unsurprisingly), but having them at hand is still a huge advantage and I would like to use them in some way. The fact that I can get unconscious for up to 3 days. So if you have any other ideas....

You would need to calculate what temperature the ice water will stabilize at in the air conditioned room, how long that would take, and how that would affect your body temperature. Also you would need to research how long it takes the body to go into hypothermia at that temperature and how long it would take. This would require reading up on physics equations.

But like I said before, this is overly complicated and unlikely to be reliable. If you already have sleeping pills, all you need to do is combine with amitriptyline or SN and antiemetics, both obtainable online. Read up on the peaceful pill handbook.

 

[Meatshell]

You would need to calculate what temperature the ice water will stabilize at in the air conditioned room, how long that would take, and how that would affect your body temperature. Also you would need to research how long it takes the body to go into hypothermia at that temperature and how long it would take. This would require reading up on physics equations.

Yeah... That's too much, you're right.

If you already have sleeping pills, all you need to do is combine with amitriptyline or SN and antiemetics, both obtainable online. Read up on the peaceful pill handbook.

I appreciate it!
I'll look into that instead.

 

[nothingbutmybest]

In contrary to what jorheslen said, death by cold air is very different to death by cold water.

[How Hypothermia Works]
Cold air doesn't kill you because you have a thermal boundary layer, and convection doesn't work as well when you have clothes. Also, air is a crazy good insulator. With water, clothes will just make you colder but the main detail here is that the water is not necessarily an infinite heatsink.

[Why Bathtub Hypothermia Won't Work]
You die if you sleep on the ground overnight because the earth is an infinite heatsink, but a bathtub is not an infinite heatsink. It is probable that your body (and the room) will generate enough heat to warm the bathtub up, even with a bunch of ice. You can theoretically die of hypothermia at any temperature but like jorheslen said, try a more documented method.

[Bathtub Drowning]
The bathtub drowning sounds pretty viable. There's a risk of not landing face-first into the water but it's not like hanging doesn't have similar execution complications either. I don't know why more people don't try it but it's probably because being wet while dying is not preferable? Though for me, it's more that a bathtub makes decomposition happen much faster and I would not want that kinda body

 

[ringo99]

Death by air conditioning? Where did I lose you? The air conditioner will simply keep the room temperature down, it's not the method. The plan is to fall unconscious for a long time in a bath filled with freezing water.

If death by air conditioning was a thing I wouldn't be here, I would be dead by now since I love the cold.

Unless you replace air conditioner with industrial grade meat freezer your plan's doomed to fail. If you were someplace close to the poles in the dead of winter where temperatures dip below zero and you can expose your bathroom to subzero temperatures then yes you could succeed.

 

[Meatshell]

Unless you replace air conditioner with industrial grade meat freezer your plan's doomed to fail. If you were someplace close to the poles in the dead of winter where temperatures dip below zero and you can expose your bathroom to subzero temperatures then yes you could succeed.

I can get an industrial humidity absorber. But no, I get it. Thanks.

The bathtub drowning sounds pretty viable. There's a risk of not landing face-first into the water but it's not like hanging doesn't have similar execution complications either.

I don't know if that changes anything, but I measured the inside of my tub and it's 150cm (approx. 5ft) in length, which is exactly my height. It's also really narrow, def not for bigger people.

I'm not actually a bath person, I take showers. One of the main reasons is I can't hold myself up in it. I keep slipping in. I could never understand how people DON'T slip in.

I should also note that I've never taken a bath in this particular tub, only in the one at my old house. If this method is pretty viable in my case, I will test this tub before taking it further.

 

[MewtwoIsAlive]

Okay, very helpful.

Just use one of the popular methods discussed here for fast and easy travel or just basically anything else except this. Its a very bad one.