Is more than 24 hours excessive fasting for SN?

[seekingrelease22]

I have family meneber that may be monitoring how much I'm eating and when. I think I'll only be able to do 24 hours. Should this be sufficient for SN?

 

[final_countdown12]

Looks like more than 24hours is too much, you could get too weak and risk of vomiting could increase.

 

[seekingrelease22]

Looks like more than 24hours is too much, you could get too weak and risk of vomiting could increase.

Could this also happen with sleep deprivation as well? I likely won't be sleeping for a day or two prior to my ingestion

 

[final_countdown12]

Could this also happen with sleep deprivation as well? I likely won't be sleeping for a day or two prior to my ingestion

Thats not easy to answer, but IMO you need to be mentally and physically good for the CTB. If you are too weak due to sleep or eating deprivation your "fight-or-flight" automatic response will be more sensitive therefore you will be more vulnerable to SI.
So i recommend you resting well, doing things you enjoy, do some sport, eat well etc few weeks before your attempt. You have to be in peace with your death.

Most of CTB failed attempts ocurred due to lack of preparation/planning, desesperation and mental confusion. So to increase your chances, you need to be well. (Ps: I know its challenging since we are all fucked up in a depressed situation.)

 

[seekingrelease22]

Thats not easy to answer, but IMO you need to be mentally and physically good for the CTB. If you are too weak due to sleep or eating deprivation your "fight-or-flight" automatic response will be more sensitive therefore you will be more vulnerable to SI.
So i recommend you resting well, doing things you enjoy, do some sport, eat well etc few weeks before your attempt. You have to be in peace with your death.

Trust me SI isn't gonna be an issue for me. I just want to make sure I will be good in terms of not vomiting out of weakness from not sleeping. That shouldn't be an issue shouldnit? That's what I'm concerned about

Thats not easy to answer, but IMO you need to be mentally and physically good for the CTB. If you are too weak due to sleep or eating deprivation your "fight-or-flight" automatic response will be more sensitive therefore you will be more vulnerable to SI.
So i recommend you resting well, doing things you enjoy, do some sport, eat well etc few weeks before your attempt. You have to be in peace with your death.

Most of CTB failed attempts ocurred due to lack of preparation/planning, desesperation and mental confusion. So to increase your chances, you need to be well. (Ps: I know its challenging since we are all fucked up in a depressed situation.)

I have everything else sorted out. I just won't be able to sleep I know. That's what I am worried about right now

 

[Little_Suzy]

Forever sleep on an empty stomach? This is why poisoning has never interested me. I'm gonna stuff my face. I do not even want to die in my sleep. I'd like to have breakfast first.

I agree. Follow the instructions. Not only is one not peaceful but also mentally weak when they are too hungry, too nauseated, too exhausted, or too agitated.

 

[seekingrelease22]

Forever sleep on an empty stomach? This is why poisoning has never interested me. I'm gonna stuff my face. I do not even want to die in my sleep. I'd like to have breakfast first.

I agree. Follow the instructions. Not only is one not peaceful but also mentally weak when they are too hungry, too nauseated, too exhausted, or too agitated.

I can't control the other aspects. It's not or never for this. I won't be able to sleep that's my only concern.

 

[final_countdown12]

Trust me SI isn't gonna be an issue for me. I just want to make sure I will be good in terms of not vomiting out of weakness from not sleeping. That shouldn't be an issue shouldnit? That's what I'm concerned about

I have everything else sorted out. I just won't be able to sleep I know. That's what I am worried about right now

Why cant you sleep?
I would sleep well, otherwise sleep deprivation can affect your body and mind. As i said before, try to be good in all aspects (body + mind) for the CTB so you increase your chance of sucess.
I have insomnia and i take medicine to sleep, you can get one just to guarantee a good night sleep before the CTB day.

 

[cowboypants]

I have family meneber that may be monitoring how much I'm eating and when. I think I'll only be able to do 24 hours. Should this be sufficient for SN?

Are you accustomed to fasting for 24 hours?

You don't want to feel weak and other issues that may arise when you want to do this.

From the stuff I have read they mention 8 hours is good enough and even 4 hours is okay sometimes

 

[seekingrelease22]

Why cant you sleep?
I would sleep well, otherwise sleep deprivation can affect your body and mind. As i said before, try to be good in all aspects (body + mind) for the CTB so you increase your chance of sucess.
I have insomnia and i take medicine to sleep, you can get one just to guarantee a good night sleep before the CTB day.

I get that. I'm just saying hypothetically if I get 0 sleep. Would I still have success?

 

[Little_Suzy]

I can't control the other aspects. It's not or never for this. I won't be able to sleep that's my only concern.

The protocol is timed and takes hours to complete.

Should you crash in the middle and fail, you have to try again.

The problem is not sleeping. If you feel weak or exhausted, we advise you not to start the protocol.

We don't know how you'll feel, so we can't give you an exact answer to your question.

 

[seekingrelease22]

The protocol is timed and takes hours to complete.

Should you crash in the middle and fail, you have to try again.

The problem is not sleeping. If you feel weak or exhausted, we advise you not to start the protocol.

I will be with someone else tho. They will be handling that part.

 

[final_countdown12]

I get that. I'm just saying hypothetically if I get 0 sleep. Would I still have success?

Sleep deprivation = decreases sucess rate

Good sleep = increase sucess rate

 

[seekingrelease22]

Sleep deprivation = decreases sucess rate

Good sleep = increase sucess rate

Why do you think it could decrease the success rate? Like what effect do you think it could have negatively? As far as I know it would still deprive the cells of oxygen no?

 

[final_countdown12]

Why do you think it could decrease the success rate? Like what effect do you think it could have negatively? As far as I know it would still deprive the cells of oxygen no?

Sleep deprivation negatively affects your mental abilities and emotional state. You may feel more impatient or prone to mood swings. It can also compromise decision-making processes.

also you could start having hallucinations — seeing or hearing things that aren't really there.

So basically, sleep well and follow the protocol.

 

[seekingrelease22]

Sleep deprivation negatively affects your mental abilities and emotional state. You may feel more impatient or prone to mood swings. It can also compromise decision-making processes.

also you could start having hallucinations — seeing or hearing things that aren't really there.

So basically, sleep well and follow the protocol.

Nah I get that for sure. I'm mainly asking if everything else is taken care of. The process and everything would the fact I haven't slept in of itself effect if SN will kill me?

 

[final_countdown12]

Nah I get that for sure. I'm mainly asking if everything else is taken care of. The process and everything would the fact I haven't slept in of itself effect if SN will kill me?

Based on my experience, when i partied more than 24 hours withouth sleeping i was more prone to vomiting. So maybe your body could be more vulnerable due to the lack of sleep and therefore more sensitive to SN?

I wouldn't risk.