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fuzzy-clown

Experienced
Nov 27, 2022
227
Both people would understand each other's struggles.

Although I guess for legal reasons, the only way not to die alone is if both people die together.

Concerns:
  • If they both die together, could the family of one of them sue the other person's estate, taking money intended to go to designated beneficiaries?
Benefits:
  • Catching the bus together can be super romantic, like a final date. Can craft a ritual as a send-off to the afterlife together.
  • If catching the bus alone, the other person will be happy that their partner found the peace they were looking for
 
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AnonymousRobin

AnonymousRobin

little bird fly away
Oct 7, 2022
191
i used to date someone who was also wanting to ctb, they are now ex but them being okay with my end was a big reason to date. but after dating a while they stopped wanting to ctb because they were happy, i appreciate their happiness but i wanted someone that understood:-( they cheated on me after anyway so we broke up :-)
 
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Suicidebydeath

Suicidebydeath

No chances to be happy - dead inside
Nov 25, 2021
3,558
It's not because it's too complicated. One person might ctb while the other carries on. OTOH I don't know who would understand the struggle better than another suicidal person.

It is ideal for two non-suicidal people to date each other though.
i used to date someone who was also wanting to ctb, they are now ex but them being okay with my end was a big reason to date. but after dating a while they stopped wanting to ctb because they were happy, i appreciate their happiness but i wanted someone that understood:-( they cheated on me after anyway so we broke up :-)
Cheating is the worst, I'm sorry.
 
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lionetta12

Just a random person
Aug 5, 2022
1,274
Both people would understand each other's struggles.

Although I guess for legal reasons, the only way not to die alone is if both people die together.

Concerns:
  • If they both die together, could the family of one of them sue the other person's estate, taking money intended to go to designated beneficiaries?
Benefits:
  • Catching the bus together can be super romantic, like a final date. Can craft a ritual as a send-off to the afterlife together.
  • If catching the bus alone, the other person will be happy that their partner found the peace they were looking for
All my experiences with other suicidal people romantically have been a nightmare.
 
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TraurigerClown

TraurigerClown

Member
Dec 13, 2022
80
I´d like to have such experience and i think it might be very romantic in my humble opinion.
But i also guess that this could end in big mess and struggling...!

Anyway...im happy for anybody who found some romance by ctb together
 
Szinuus

Szinuus

I see the bus...I can almost see it
Aug 19, 2022
211
I've met my ex on psych ward. I was after suicide attempt, he was with depression. We've been together one month and then he started falling in love with other girls so I dumped him.
 
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CowsAgainstCapitali

CowsAgainstCapitali

Member
Dec 11, 2022
93
If I met an attractive person who told me of their suicidality I think I would be verrry attracted to them. The thought of a suicidal SO is super sexy to me (I don't exactly like to admit that) I would overlook red flags.

Currently my end goal is recovery.

If my end goal was CTB however, I would likely be seeking a romantic partner. I would really prefer not to go alone, and having a partner would almost make it happy?
 
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Sister of the Moon

Sister of the Moon

Student
Dec 17, 2021
188
It's a recipe for disaster and heartbreak. I would have thought the main reason to date someone would be to build a happy future together. Whilst I can see that it could work for some people, I don't agree with the sentiment that if one of you ctb the other one would be happy for them. Relationships are a lot more complex than that.

I have been in a relationship where he often expressed a wish to die, usually when he was deeply stressed. Not once did I think oh hey, that's great, we can ctb together. In fact I rushed down there to look after him and make sure he didn't harm himself. It was emotionally draining and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

Just because someone is suicidal or has issues, I don't think it should be a barrier to dating. Everyone deserves and is worthy of love, and I hope everyone finds it at least once in their lifetime. To each their own, but no I wouldn't want to be a part of that mess again. I think of all the questions and blame that would inevitably arise, and I'm not strong enough to weather it.
That relationship ended for other reasons, and there's enough distance between us now that if he did do anything, it's not on me. The ending of the relationship has also triggered my own desire to die though. There's not much point to a loveless life, and we did have a lot of love, or so it seemed.

On the other hand, I can sort of see why some people would think it's ideal. If only one person is suicidal, it's perhaps not fair to seek out a well-rounded non-suicidal person and tarnish their life with thoughts of ctb. Perhaps the ideation would stop if they could build something happy together. But two damaged people is double trouble, and however well you think you could handle their ctb, it's too simplistic to think that you'd simply be able to be pleased for them.
 
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enviro400mmc

enviro400mmc

#1 cake123 fanboy
Nov 27, 2022
101
I feel like the idea of dating at all as a suicidal person just sounds like a recipe for disaster.
 
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CandyCane

CandyCane

Student
Mar 11, 2022
143
How I experience suicidality doesn't leave me with the emotional space for a relationship.
 
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DeadManLiving

DeadManLiving

Ticketholder
Sep 9, 2022
315
"Romantic Suicide" has been categorized in old playwrights and literature. Particularly in Middle Eastern and East Asian cultures, as an act of rebellion against arranged marriages. In cases where the choice of marrying one's family pre-arranged partner was against the will of one and the other, couples in love would commit suicide mutually in an act of defiance. A romantic tragedy theme abound outside of Western culture.

As far as the legal mechanics, suicides are a matter of criminal procedure as far as investigations and processing of the scene of any non-natural deaths. I have no knowledge of suicides as an element which would frustrate any estate under civil procedure or probate court of jurisdiction. State laws vary widely on this. In some States it may be unlawful to assist or provide any means or inducement enabling another to commit suicide. However if both voluntarily and mutually commit suicide without undue influence, by their own accord then I cannot see any authority in the prevailing case law for any criminal or civil exposure. So as long as each individual acted independently, and took their lives by their own volition, on their own accord and by their own doing without undue influence and without any direct assistance by another, and both have died, there would be no ex parte liability on either's estates, trusts, or other probate matters to my knowledge.

In other words, if both acted jointly as they would have done independently, say by consuming a toxin or poison independently and without being influenced to do so by the other, the law would view both deaths as suicides by each owns volition. So as long as direct assistance in the commission of the act was not provided to the other, and each took their lives by their own volition and means, I find no authority in the case law that would make one legally or criminally culpable to the other, or frustrate any future potential estate or probate matters postmortem.

As far as the romantic element, everybody's feelings on this very widely. Some people want to die alone, others crave the company of another. Others would go as far as to have a last affair just for good measure. I can't provide legal advice however I would say conduct a background check on whoever you're going to meet, make sure they're not a serial killer or looney. If you like the person and are intent on dying together, make sure that you refrain from providing any direct assistance or lethal means (or leave no written or digital communication traces of the same). In case one party survives, the other may be culpable for providing direct assistance if such digital or written or other evidence is later discovered. That would be the only legal risk I foresee, they survival of one party potentially being culpable for the death of the other. So as long as both complete suicide jointly in the manner as they would have done independently, then there would not be any legal qualms in terms of family feuds which the law would provide for.

This should not be relied upon as legal advice, I'm not an attorney. This is only information, for advice you are very much encouraged to speak with an attorney and consult your local State laws.

Happy Fucking Valentine's Day LOL
 
Gustav Hartmann

Gustav Hartmann

Enlightened
Aug 28, 2021
1,079
I planned it together with another guy, we are both straight, so nothing romantic, we just have the same death fetish. Up to now we didn´t succeed, synchronisation was too difficult. One of us alway backed out, in most cases me.
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
43,314
No. Such a thing would only lead to more suffering and problems being experienced. You cannot trust humans so therefore any kind of relationship would always be a bad idea. In this world most people just make things worse and inflict more harm, so it's better to avoid people. And anyway I associate the whole relationship thing with people who value life and wish to exist rather than those who want to cease being here.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
12,130
Difficult to say because it's such a personal journey. What if one person started to feel better because they finally felt that the deep connection they had made was giving them hope? But the other person didn't feel this? I imagine- unless you are both at the same level of commitment to either do it or perhaps try recovery, resentment may start to build up. Either one person hanging on when they want to go or the other feeling pressured into CTB when they might be having second thoughts. Or- one person realising they may just have to let the other go.

It could work beautifully and I've always thought it would be gothically romantic- dying with your partner. Or- it could just end up with a whole load of hurt, betrayal and resentment!
 
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hellispink

hellispink

poisonous
May 26, 2022
1,229
I wouldn't date someone suicidal like me. I have enough with myself. I wouldn't date anyone that ain't suicidal either, cause why would i fuck them up with my sadness. I just prefer to be by myself i dont bother anyone
 
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liana

Member
Dec 4, 2022
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i used to date someone who was also wanting to ctb, they are now ex but them being okay with my end was a big reason to date. but after dating a while they stopped wanting to ctb because they were happy, i appreciate their happiness but i wanted someone that understood:-( they cheated on me after anyway so we broke up :-)
So you were both suicidal, then they healed and decided to cheat on the one still suicidal? I can't believe people.
 
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Heartbroken2022

Member
Jan 3, 2023
28
I wouldn't date another person having actively suicidal thoughts. But I have seen that people who have experienced depression at some point in their life are the only ones who can really understand and feel your pain. So, dating such a depressed person could potentially help both parties heal and move on. But there are too many uncertainties.
 
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foreverfalling

foreverfalling

Experienced
Jul 22, 2022
271
I wouldn't want to date someone normal, they wouldn't understand me. Someone also suicidal sounds good, understanding and supporting each other. However it is only one facet, there are many other things that may not work out. Destined to be alone I guess :(.
 
Rob1984

Rob1984

A day in the life
Jan 8, 2021
158
From my own experience, it is not a good combination. Two mentally unhealthy/unstable people don't just cancel each other out. It may seem like they match, but it almost always just leads to a dysfunctional relationship. A happy and flourishing relationship requires two people growing and becoming more and more well rounded and well adjusted adults. If they are both suicidal, it means they are not doing well psychologically, and that will taint the relationship. But like everything in life, there are always exceptions to the rule. As someone who struggles with depression (and many other depressed people) I am often stuck living in the past. This would hinder any partner of mine from growing in life. When you have two really depressed people, they often hold each other back, and you both stop growing as individuals. You may even use each other as a crutch to not grow. Anyway, there are a lot of reasons why two depressed or suicidal people just don't make a good couple in the long run. On a side note, it is possible to have a partner who was at one point very suicidal, and as a result has become very empathic towards the struggle.
 
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sizzlingfootnote

Member
Jan 4, 2023
21
I agree with those who say no, too much potential for toxicity. A suicidal person is likely to be extremely vulnerable to abuse as they could be emotionally desperate/codependent. Not cool. I'd rather wallow in it and contemplate.
 
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Givenuponlife

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Jul 6, 2022
81
Considering the reasons behind most relationships, it's a notion that ought to be relegated to the realm of fantasy.
 
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wesv

already dead
Nov 21, 2022
31
At least they would understand me completely. We could talk about the best methods together. Least painful/most fun death. Why not. But I do not want the burden of him doing it before me, definitely not, I would be too sad. Suiciding together sounds romantic, but I don't know, I think I would prefer to do it alone.
 
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Samsara

Samsara

Experienced
Mar 9, 2020
246
I think it can be a double edged sword. Can go either way.

In my experience, it can decrease the intensity of suicidal ideation in both individuals and give both a reason to live, but I imagine that it can also expedite ctb in one or both partners if things go awry.
 
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LookingOverTheEdge

LookingOverTheEdge

Hello Darkness my old friend
Jul 13, 2020
355
Ideal? Definitely not. I very much believe it's one of those things that could go either way. It could be the best thing for both people, or it could make things worse.
 

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