Is it childish and immature to ctb because you know you won't be able to get what you desire in life?

[VivaldiBR]

Or those things you want are out of your reach.

What do you ppl think?

 

[botanormal]

I don't think there are many situations where you could consider ctb as being immature. Everybody has their reasons, no one's can really be ranked as 'better' than somebody else's, because everyone's situation is unique and personal to them. It's really impossible to compare, and so any reason you have is valid, if it's important enough to you. At least in my opinion, anyways. What do you think?

 

[RepressedMind]

I believe that if you have a set goal in life, that you're unable to fulfill, then suicide is a perfectly reasonable course of action. Because why is life worth it, if you can't have what you desire?

 

[Sensei]

I would say that it's immature, not in the meaning childish and stupid, but in the meaning lacking perspective and experience. Desires can change over time.

 

[Deleted member 17949]

Isn't that basically why everyone CTBs to some extend?

 

[kohaku]

Many things factor into your inability to accomplish things in life. I know for one that my depression keeps me unable to function and has done so for years. My debilitating paranoia can be treated, sure, but what about the rest? I don't know how much longer I can take this. It's not childish or immature to want the pain to end. Especially when you know your dreams are out of reach.

 

[MindFog]

I do suffer from having a perfectionist mindset, somehow apart of me does want to ctb cause i can never achieve the "top" so to speak. It makes me feel like an entitled brat sometimes. Although if you think about it, our environment encourages that kind of behavior. Never settling, getting more and moving up. Yes it is immature but it makes sense at least. It takes a great deal of mental stability to be content with your life.

 

[VivaldiBR]

I don't think there are many situations where you could consider ctb as being immature. Everybody has their reasons, no one's can really be ranked as 'better' than somebody else's, because everyone's situation is unique and personal to them. It's really impossible to compare, and so any reason you have is valid, if it's important enough to you. At least in my opinion, anyways. What do you think?

Tbh, idk. :(

 

[Lilium]

I don't think that CTB can ever be seen as a childish action.

If you know that you won't be able to reach what you desire yet you find a reason to live and a sense of fulfillment in chasing those desires, then i'd say ride it out.
If that knowledge only serves to make you feel more depressed and worthless, in this case CTB is a reasonable choice.

 

[Symbiote]

Depends on what that wants and needs are, is it tangible or intangible. Intangible needs and desires are harder to obtain, therefore tend to be lifelong pursuits which depends on your tolerance for failure. For me, I just want peace and stability in my life, free from shame and guilt. I view immaturity as someone that lacks perspective on something, I find people stupid to CTB if they want something tangible like possessions and material objects. Love falls under both intangible and tangible and is more complex since it encompasses all fibers of your being. Some need love in their life, and some don't.

 

[these_days9]

As others have said, it sort of depends on your own personal situation. I lean more towards thinking it’s actually the most mature thing I can do or want for myself. Particularly when I think about what I “desire in life.” For me, that’s really nothing so then isn’t what I desire truly to ctb? But if others do have something they desire I also think about all the stupid barriers outside of an individual persons control because society is so fucked and unbalanced. It’s not like any of us want to ctb because we didn’t get that one toy we wanted. It’s so much more complex than that. I don’t think that anyone who doesn’t want to be here should have to stay here. And I think it’s ultimately the most personal, life fulfilling choice you can make for yourself (on both ends - to ctb or not sorry lul hamlet) if you get to that point of considering it.

 

[Kat!]

I don't think it is at all.
My social anxiety is holding me back from anything, a job, going outside, career, school etc.
So seems pretty reasonable.

 

[Ringo]

Goals and aspirations are what can keep someone alive, without any possibility of fulfilling them, why continue? This is how I see it, of course, they are not the only motivations that someone can have to live, but if you give them great importance, stopping living is an option

 

[OnlyTheWind]

It sounds reasonable to die because you can't get what you want. Especially when the problem lies with a weak body/ brain that will never amount to anything.

 

[shijsrzh]

Albert Camus wrote:

"There is but one truly serious philosophical problem, and that is suicide. Judging whether life is or is not worth living amounts to answering the fundamental question of philosophy. All the rest — whether or not the world has three dimensions, whether the mind has nine or twelve categories — comes afterwards. These are games; one must first answer."

I don‘t think it trivial or immature at all. What drives men have always been his aspirations. Whether they are material or immaterial. Material wishes have their roots in the immaterial as well, actually. Because what all human pursuit boils down to is self-love and therefore feeling at home, giving one‘s life meaning. If it were stupid or immature, you would have to declare all humankind as such. What we are discussing here are merely external symptoms of much deeper metaphysics we all have. Even the seemingly most ignorant of men.
I don‘t think your thoughts are immature or trivial in any way.

These are my personal opinions. I don‘t mean to say that only this is true. This is just my personal take on life, my own metaphysics. I don‘t want to appear as arrogant. I just like philosophy and sometimes people confuse it with arrogance when I write like this (because I express strong opinions).
BTW, if anyone is interested in Camus‘ essay, I can provide a link.

 

[goodbyebunny]

No. That's one of my motivations for needing to die. And I really really need to die. Really soon.

 

[ProzacPrincess02]

I believe that if you have a set goal in life, that you're unable to fulfill, then suicide is a perfectly reasonable course of action. Because why is life worth it, if you can't have what you desire?

you worded that way better than I could
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I don't think it is at all.
My social anxiety is holding me back from anything, a job, going outside, career, school etc.
So seems pretty reasonable.

same with me and my mental disorders, I know I WANT to killl myself, but when?