I guess the answer is subjective. I consider mine mediocre... I am 25, a don't like my body at all and most people would consider me avarage looking. I am also a failure and never went to college. No job, no degree. And even if I can change my current situation, I would still feel like I am very, very behind. By my standards, this is mediocre. And I have thought so for the last 8 years. So either I accept things as they are and move foward... living my mediocre life, or death. And I don't know what I want to choose.
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if your profile picture is you, you don't look that bad.
yes you have a small jaw, but that doesn't mean you're ugly
Look at it this way:
Mediocre life = Can still give you some pleasure. It can give you ice cream.
Death =
Don't kill yourself, you don't have a real problem
you can kill yourself when you're old and crippled, live your mediocre life first
it still has value. Death doesn't have any value, it's just nothingness.
You're giving a dollar (your life) for 0 cents (nonexistence, death),
it doesn't make any sense economically
you can still make decent money without college,
take a course or something
if you can teach yourself a skill that people have a demand for, you will make money
yes you have a small jaw, but that doesn't mean you're ugly
Look at it this way:
Mediocre life = Can still give you some pleasure. It can give you ice cream.
Death =
Don't kill yourself, you don't have a real problem
you can kill yourself when you're old and crippled, live your mediocre life first
it still has value. Death doesn't have any value, it's just nothingness.
You're giving a dollar (your life) for 0 cents (nonexistence, death),
it doesn't make any sense economically
you can still make decent money without college,
take a course or something
if you can teach yourself a skill that people have a demand for, you will make money
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It's your choice. If you feel your mediocre life is causing you too much pain CTB might be a good choice.
andweallfloatonok
Member
- Apr 2, 2022
- 38
idk. some people have miserable lives and are still pretty happy and vice versa. it's your choice.
NSA
Your friendly neighborhood agent
- Feb 21, 2022
- 271
Same boat, more or less.
The likelihood that I will never do anything significant disgusts me, and that even if I somehow do manage, it will never be as impressive as if I did it sooner. I keep going though, out of both procrastination in getting my method together, and some small hope that my various interests might pay off eventually, how ever fucking long it takes. Better late than never, so they say.
The likelihood that I will never do anything significant disgusts me, and that even if I somehow do manage, it will never be as impressive as if I did it sooner. I keep going though, out of both procrastination in getting my method together, and some small hope that my various interests might pay off eventually, how ever fucking long it takes. Better late than never, so they say.
Arvinneedstodie
Existing is not living
- Sep 17, 2018
- 200
That's truly a question only you can answer yourself. I know my answer and I can only offer you my perspective of my own situation.
I am one year older than you and I'm also everything you described as mediocre, but those things are not what's really pushing me over the edge. For me, it's the chronic loneliness, relentless depression and anxiety, and the deteriorating chronic health problems that make even "mediocre" hard to live. Basically it's the hopelessness that's killing me, not medicoreness.
I am one year older than you and I'm also everything you described as mediocre, but those things are not what's really pushing me over the edge. For me, it's the chronic loneliness, relentless depression and anxiety, and the deteriorating chronic health problems that make even "mediocre" hard to live. Basically it's the hopelessness that's killing me, not medicoreness.
I actually wish i could live a normal, "mediocre" life, so i guess from my perspective it is worth living.
He is literally on a suicide forum he obviously has problems like the rest of us who are here. The afterlife probably doesn't have a dairy queen
yeah ok
and he thinks there's only one way to solve them, I'm telling him there are other options on the table.
you believe in the afterlife????
life is just needy animals working hard to survive, and that includes you
there is no fucking afterlife
You could stop being a cunt to everyone it's not that hard. He obviously is aware of other options he even said so. You are insufferable and you aren't dead you don't know what will be next so piss off with that and respect the beliefs of others.
I'm being a cunt because I don't want someone to waste his life for a temporary feeling? What if he changes his mind a second after drinking the N, or kicking the chair? Look not everyone on this forum should kill themselves just because they've had a month of depression. Death should really be the last option, in my opinion.
I thought this was a pro choice forum,
not a "shut up unless you want him to die like all of us forum" .
he can choose whatever he wants
but i'm allowed to give him my opinion
Believe me, if he told us that he had headaches every day from his brain cancer, I'd be the first one
to tell him to go for it,.
I'm no fucking pro lifer, but I do have values
People should always know why the fuck they're killing themselves, before killing themselves,
so they don't make rushed decisions, and then they have to live with brain damage, like me
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I find it is better for me (and this is just my opinion) to die rather than be in existence as all the problems in life are always ever present even in the best circumstances. I definitely would rather die than living a mediocre (or even harsh) life. If I had the best possible life, I might revel in a bit, but at some point I'd still want to die because of how the world is, becoming more Orwellian, things going to shit (external factors out of my control or even most people's control) and eventually will catch up to me and lower my quality of life nonetheless..
I also believe in antinatalism but that is another topic altogether.
At any rate, I believe the choice to die is a very personal choice and one that is ultimately made by the individual.
I also believe in antinatalism but that is another topic altogether.
At any rate, I believe the choice to die is a very personal choice and one that is ultimately made by the individual.
Superdeterminist
Enlightened
- Apr 5, 2020
- 1,875
IMO? Death is better than a mediocre life, and it's not even close. Fuck being an NPC while others get to play main character.
In my opinion, a real problem is anything which causes the individual distress. So if these things he mentioned are causing him distress I would say they're real problems.
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Death is far better than a mediocre life. Most of early Stoicism claimed that poverty and mediocrity where valid reasons to commit suicide.
My personal opinion is I have no desire to live a miserable existence working for a company.
My personal opinion is I have no desire to live a miserable existence working for a company.
Here's the thing. What's "mediocre" for one person might be unbearable to another person and a reasonably happy existence to yet another. It really boils down to each individual case. When I see retail clerks working for minimum wage, I imagine that would be unbearable to me. But some of them might be happy as clams with their life.
99.9% of the world live a mediocre life. Are you ok settling with that? Seems millions do every day.
Nobody is happy making minimum wage. Their job is to smile and 'look' happy.
FuneralCry
Just wanting some peace
- Sep 24, 2020
- 43,292
Only the individual can decide what is best for themselves. Only they know their situation and nobody else should have any say in it. I would personally choose death over absolutely everything. Nothing could ever make me want to live and I have no interest in being alive.
By dying I would be escaping the suffering I am currently experiencing and I would also be free from the possibility that things could get so much worse. To me, life is completely pointless and unnecessary, why suffer until old age for the sake of it just to die anyway. In non existence, nothing can hurt me. I think that it is absolutely horrifying that life is even a thing in the first place.
By dying I would be escaping the suffering I am currently experiencing and I would also be free from the possibility that things could get so much worse. To me, life is completely pointless and unnecessary, why suffer until old age for the sake of it just to die anyway. In non existence, nothing can hurt me. I think that it is absolutely horrifying that life is even a thing in the first place.
Life is literally slavery working for corporations
there is no disadvantage in death, for it results in the absence of any need. However, there are always downsides to living, suffering is inevitable and pleasure is unnecessary.
Nobody likes to go around assuming they are miserable, because they are afraid of feeling weak and vulnerable. People spend most of their time suffering, while pleasure is just a tiny part that only serves them to keep moving forward in this insignificant cycle of suffering. And what's the point of all this? absolutely none. They will die anyway, they will lose everything they have conquered and nothing they have suffered or enjoyed will have any meaning. Life is fucking joke
I feel like most people are unhappy, but society pressures them to put a smile on their face.
Nobody likes to go around assuming they are miserable, because they are afraid of feeling weak and vulnerable. People spend most of their time suffering, while pleasure is just a tiny part that only serves them to keep moving forward in this insignificant cycle of suffering. And what's the point of all this? absolutely none. They will die anyway, they will lose everything they have conquered and nothing they have suffered or enjoyed will have any meaning. Life is fucking joke
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I've made small chat with cashiers and some I know personally. NONE of them like their pay. I ask them, well you look so happy at work and they tell me it's their job and depressed or angry cashiers are bad for business.
As for the meaning to all this, we will never know. We are just existing until we don't.
BasqueClown
Zirkua ata heriotza
- Jun 9, 2022
- 121
I will choose death before a mediocre life
I'm tired to be the black sheep in family, I regret my college career, I'm ashamed of being the poor member of my family
Sure "You're young basque" yeah but what happens when I got 30, 40?
I don't want to depend on my brother to survive or live in his home
And I want to find another career path since I felt like a failure like a teacher
I can't decide to you but my decision is taken
I'm tired to be the black sheep in family, I regret my college career, I'm ashamed of being the poor member of my family
Sure "You're young basque" yeah but what happens when I got 30, 40?
I don't want to depend on my brother to survive or live in his home
And I want to find another career path since I felt like a failure like a teacher
I can't decide to you but my decision is taken
in public they say they are happy, but in anonymity they all reveal how they really feel.
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AstroV
Member
- Nov 3, 2021
- 75
It's something you really have to think about. Judging if your current life is worth living or not and if you have the capability to improve it to where it is worth living. In my case I don't believe I have the capability to change my life for the better so ctb is inevitable for me. It's why I hate when people say suicide is impulsive. The majority of people who do it don't just do it on a whim.
NobodyKnowsMe
Just biding my time
- Dec 21, 2021
- 582
I'm still alive because most of the time the mediocre life is somehow enough to keep me going. There are times when the emotional pain gets really bad and then I fall back into my suicidal mode. So far, those times have never lasted longer than a few weeks........... and knowing that, I've been able to struggle through the darkness. Granted, when I get out of the darkness, all I have is mediocre again, but there is some stupid part of me that still thinks it might get better........ or at least hopes it doesn't get worse.
Only you can decide if mediocre is enough for now -- and that's all that matters: "is it enough for NOW?"
Only you can decide if mediocre is enough for now -- and that's all that matters: "is it enough for NOW?"
19andOverdue
Member
- Jun 12, 2022
- 80
Ask yourself if life is meaningful enough to justify its suffering
coyotestark
Free at last, free at last.
- Jun 13, 2022
- 72
I've done too much to turn back, and I've done too much to go on. I guess in the end it all catches up with you. My grandpa asked me one time if I care whether I live or die. Yeah, I do. Now it's too late. -Caine.
It's a guarantee that I'll never get to return to my old life, and I'm never going back to the one that I lived before that. To answer your question, I'd rather be dead.
It's a guarantee that I'll never get to return to my old life, and I'm never going back to the one that I lived before that. To answer your question, I'd rather be dead.
freedompass
Warlock
- Jan 27, 2021
- 768
I'd be happy with mediocre! 'Average, not very good' would be an improvement. Living with bipolar mania and depression (psychotic features) is another level of pain. Not being 'the shit' is a matter of total indifference to me at this point, even when young I never expected that. I just survive most days and try to limit the damage as best I can. Most of us IMO are motivated primarily by the avoidance of suffering rather than the pursuit of anything positive from this life.
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You sound like a narcissist. It's possible to combat the "invisible audience" that is always there, judging you, but you need to get some self-awareness. I recommend Sam Vaknin. Scroll down on his YouTube channel to his shorter vids from 9 years ago and earlier. Ignoring the Freudian crap about "mother", I found his vids really useful. If "mediocrity" is your issue, there's hope for you. Don't give up yet.
freedompass
Warlock
- Jan 27, 2021
- 768
How does he/she sound like a narcissist? Because he/she is concerned about how they look to others? Are you a narcissist? Just curious how you came to that conclusion based off that short paragraph. I'm not saying I think they are or aren't…
One of the tell-tale signs of a narcissist is a dislike of "the mediocre". Only effortless brilliance (which doesn't actually exist) and the adulation of worthy others matters for anything. A normal life, normal things, average ability and achievements: all are worthless to the narcissist.
I don't have NPD but I do have some strongly narcissistic traits, but also good self-awareness, which is part of the reason I'm good at controlling them.
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