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meetapple

meetapple

Mage
Jun 3, 2021
585
I have good parents and a good sister. They have been as helpful as they can. However, the symptoms of my illness are not getting better. Also, is there a point in suffering while waiting to try all possible medications to see if they will reduce symptoms?
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
43,340
I feel like only you can decide that, it depends on the individual. I could never personally stay alive just for others, to me it would be unbearable. I'm sorry that you are suffering so much. I wish you the best in whatever happens.
 
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sealbabies

Student
Mar 27, 2022
100
Anything you feel is your reality. If that hurt is seen that way by you, then that's what it will be. Conflicts exist in all of us.
You make your own choice, and whatever that is can't be decided by anyone else.
 
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symphony

surving hour-by-hour
Mar 12, 2022
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The only reason I can think of that I would call a "bad" reason for living would be coercion - i.e. someone else has forced or manipulated you into staying alive against your will. Outside of that case, it's up to you and you alone to weigh the pros and cons in both directions. If living for your loved ones makes lofe meaningful enough to stick around, then power to you. But if you think prioritizing your own need to escape suffering is more meaningfully important, that's fine too. Just my take.
 
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rationaltake

rationaltake

I'm rocking it - in another universe
Sep 28, 2021
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Maybe the fact you're asking this question means you're veering towards a yes?
 
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NorseHel

Tinnitus Enjoyer
Mar 28, 2022
60
As others have said, this is for you to gauge. Does the prevention of their suffering bring you enough relief to keep going? What's the scope of your suffering versus their hypothetical suffering?

Also, is there a point in suffering while waiting to try all possible medications to see if they will reduce symptoms?
Depends. Do you have many options left? And if something did reduce symptoms, would that be enough for you?
 
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lyles

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Oct 13, 2021
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There is no bad reason or good reason, only the one you choose. I have stayed alive for the people in my life and found that worthwhile, but that was my choice. It is hard, but it is one only you can make.
 
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VoidDesirer22

VoidDesirer22

A dream inside a locked room
Sep 6, 2021
673
Depends on each individual case. I own full sovereignty over my body and brain, so my family is not even a consideration anymore (since my note is already written).

My site is set on resting.
 
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Sakura94

empty
Nov 26, 2020
673
That's really my only reason.
I really wish I had a brother or a sister. I've seen families who have lost children and they cope because there are siblings and new experiences. With the death of an only child what can follow to parents but misery concluding with their eventual death? I find it hard to do this to someone.
 
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dysthimia_king

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Sep 3, 2021
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I have good parents and a good sister. They have been as helpful as they can. However, the symptoms of my illness are not getting better. Also, is there a point in suffering while waiting to try all possible medications to see if they will reduce symptoms?
I believe empathy is innate, and can therefore understand why one would care about parents and sibling. In my situation, I have both but go through my depression alone. They think about me once in a while but, not enough to stop their daily lives.
Do what's best for you from your own perspective, it's okay to be selfish...
 
onlyanimalsaregood

onlyanimalsaregood

Unlovable 💔 Rest in peace CommitSudoku 🤍
Mar 11, 2022
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In my case, it is my cat that makes me endure and not want to leave her.
 
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cringelord111

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Apr 17, 2022
105
I don't give a flying fuck about any of them.
 
Niko66

Niko66

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Dec 6, 2021
353
It's a strong reason... I am not sure if to call it good or bad, it's kind of a mixed bag. It's you not wanting to hurt others, it's also guilt. It's thinking of how they will feel and be affected but it's also a fundamental lack of understanding of how it feels to lead a life we can barely bear, maybe these people want the best for you but maybe their best for you isn't your best for you, hence I really feel this one has no answer of "good" or "bad".

It's a difficult reason to overcome for better or worse and it is a meaningful one.
 
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cringelord111

Student
Apr 17, 2022
105
May I ask you what happened?
They put me in this world.

No but in all seriousness, they know i want to CTB. And they are getting angry at me for it and its pissing me off.
 
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MementoMori81

MementoMori81

Member
May 1, 2022
87
I have good parents and a good sister. They have been as helpful as they can. However, the symptoms of my illness are not getting better. Also, is there a point in suffering while waiting to try all possible medications to see if they will reduce symptoms?
I'm sorry to hear you're suffering. First and foremost in my mind, whenever I read someone else's story here, is that they have my sympathies.

Regarding your question, I think it's a very personal, subjective thing, with the answer being as varied as the characters who frequent the site. I would say, however, that it's as valid a reason as any other. It's natural to worry about your loved ones, to not want for them to feel the pain of loss. Just shows how much you love them. That's a good thing.

I'm not bereft of sadness for those I'll leave behind. I can't imagine how difficult it'll be for them, at least initially, even though I've discussed this with them. Can I stay alive based on that alone? I honestly don't know. I don't know if I'm prepared to keep pushing forth on the mere chance things may improve. What if they don't? I have to look at all of the potential outcomes, and base the decision on my best guess. I'm still here at the moment, but who's to tell if that won't just change if I manage to secure N? Who knows, it may even be as some of the anecdotal accounts I've read, where people say that having a peaceful means of exit actually prolonged their life.

The way I often look at it is this; with each other, with counselling - if required - and with time, the people I leave behind will find their feet again and move on through life. That's not to say they won't miss me or I won't be thought of, but rather, this is just what life does - it goes on.

Sorry for a slightly longer reply than anticipated. I could have just kept it to "It's subjective and varies from person to person," but I'm very rarely content with giving short answers to interesting questions - I demur.

Again, sorry to hear you're not well. If you don't mind me asking, is this a physical condition affecting your health? or is a mental health condition? Or even both?
No obligation to answer whatsoever, and I'll completely understand if you'd sooner not.
 
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Imissyoumydarling

a very majestic chicken cat
May 7, 2022
107
I personally feel that if there's any doubt in your mind, it's best to hold on for a bit longer. I think most people here just wants everyone else to eventually find peace, whether that be through life help or suicide. The only thing is the choice should be something that feels right, and questioning it means postpone it until you're certain.

I think caring so much for your loved ones is very thoughtful and selfless of you, for what it's worth. I'm going to be leaving a mess behind for others when I CTB in a few weeks so I'm glad there are people like you in the world who care for others.
 
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meetapple

Mage
Jun 3, 2021
585
I'm sorry to hear you're suffering. First and foremost in my mind, whenever I read someone else's story here, is that they have my sympathies.

Regarding your question, I think it's a very personal, subjective thing, with the answer being as varied as the characters who frequent the site. I would say, however, that it's as valid a reason as any other. It's natural to worry about your loved ones, to not want for them to feel the pain of loss. Just shows how much you love them. That's a good thing.

I'm not bereft of sadness for those I'll leave behind. I can't imagine how difficult it'll be for them, at least initially, even though I've discussed this with them. Can I stay alive based on that alone? I honestly don't know. I don't know if I'm prepared to keep pushing forth on the mere chance things may improve. What if they don't? I have to look at all of the potential outcomes, and base the decision on my best guess. I'm still here at the moment, but who's to tell if that won't just change if I manage to secure N? Who knows, it may even be as some of the anecdotal accounts I've read, where people say that having a peaceful means of exit actually prolonged their life.

The way I often look at it is this; with each other, with counselling - if required - and with time, the people I leave behind will find their feet again and move on through life. That's not to say they won't miss me or I won't be thought of, but rather, this is just what life does - it goes on.

Sorry for a slightly longer reply than anticipated. I could have just kept it to "It's subjective and varies from person to person," but I'm very rarely content with giving short answers to interesting questions - I demur.

Again, sorry to hear you're not well. If you don't mind me asking, is this a physical condition affecting your health? or is a mental health condition? Or even both?
No obligation to answer whatsoever, and I'll completely understand if you'd sooner not.
It is a mental condition. It is a symptom of schizophrenia called thought broadcasting.
 
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MementoMori81

MementoMori81

Member
May 1, 2022
87
It is a mental condition. It is a symptom of schizophrenia called thought broadcasting.
So sorry to hear that, and thank you for the reply. I hope that you find peace in whichever decision you ultimately take. As someone else said, if there are any doubts whatsoever, it has to be worth holding on and exploring that, it could lead to a change in the winds in your sails 😊
 
peanuts

peanuts

Member
May 27, 2022
99
Fear of hurting your family is a very valid reason, as long as my mum is alive I probably never will ctb. Sometimes I resent her slightly for being such a great mum that I feel kinda forced to stay here. The sad reality is, you are suffering in order to protect them from heartbreak - a very very selfless thing to do, and doing so takes it's toll. Take care xx
 
WorthlessTrash

WorthlessTrash

Worthless
Apr 19, 2022
2,431
Anything is a valid reason not to. It is up to yoo if the fear of hurting your family outweights your suffering.
 

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