LonelyHopelessDude

LonelyHopelessDude

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Dec 17, 2019
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Just a question, my method is SN but I was thinking about changing it for Sepukku/ Hara-kiri

I think it's a very honorful way to die but I imagine it would be very painful.

I just don't have the katana yet.
 
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OneBigBlur

OneBigBlur

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Painful and it requires a second person so that it isn't painful.
 
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1DayItWillBover

1DayItWillBover

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Dec 21, 2019
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Would be a pretty bad ass way to go but i would imagine it would be very painful and hard because of the whole cutting yourself open thing
 
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gabe

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I can't even imagine the amount of pain involved in Seppuku, it must be horrible.
 
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Verklempt

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what's seppuku? isn't that when u stabbed ur self in the stomach?
 
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KiraLittleOwl

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It's a good choice if you are Japanese military and committing suicide as a honorable act.
 
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Ame

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Euh...je n'ose croire ce que j'ai lu ici. Pour être vraiment honnête avec vous, ma réponse est non, pas du tout. Je ne suis absolument pas convaincu que l'hara-kiri est une bonne méthode. S'il vous plaît, prenez soin de vous.

Just in case the "Kingdom of France" location isn't serious or you are not French speaking, then no, I don't think that seppuku/hara-kiri is a good idea at all.
 
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charlottewilts

charlottewilts

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technically you can do seppuku alone, but it would be a lot more painful. and also, it would be quite difficult to hide a katana.

why not just stick to SN? every suicide is honourable, if you think about it.
 
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LonelyHopelessDude

LonelyHopelessDude

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Euh...je n'ose croire ce que j'ai lu ici. Pour être vraiment honnête avec vous, ma réponse est non, pas du tout. Je ne suis absolument pas convaincu que l'hara-kiri est une bonne méthode. S'il vous plaît, prenez soin de vous.

Just in case the "Kingdom of France" location isn't serious or you are not French speaking, then no, I don't think that seppuku/hara-kiri is a good idea at all.
Je posais cette question car cette méthode a récemment retenu mon attention.
Mourir avec honneur ma toujours intéressé mais c'est surtout par curiosité, je vais m'y tenir au SN.

Should I change my location ? Having to put a real location is in the rules ?
I live in France but I just found this "Kingdom of France" 10 time more badass.
technically you can do seppuku alone, but it would be a lot more painful. and also, it would be quite difficult to hide a katana.

why not just stick to SN? every suicide is honourable, if you think about it.
Yes sure, it was by curiosity ! I just found the Seppuku method really interessing but I will stick with SN it's more simple and less painful.
 
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ARW3N

ARW3N

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I wouldn't say it's a good choice at all but an excruciatingly painful one.
 
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S1mpleme

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Are you Japanese, if I may ask?
 
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LonelyHopelessDude

LonelyHopelessDude

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Are you Japanese, if I may ask?
No, not at all even if Japanese culture fascinates me I don't even think I have a very high pourcentage of Asian blood.
 
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Jean Améry

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It's hard to determine whether you're actually serious or not. Why would anyone willfully stab themselves in the stomach knowing it'll be an excruciatingly painful and prolonged death? That's if you're not found in time and rushed to the hospital.

In case you are actually serious: honour in that context meant one's reputation and that of one's family remained intact after one's death. In that culture and time period being dishonoured meant disgrace for one's whole living family, ancestors and future descendents so dying in such a gruesome manner actually made sense. In a modern, western context it' would be completely meaningless. Nobody will think of you in terms of admiration for your 'honourable' death. They'll probably think you were quite insane.

A full sized Japanese sword (katana) was never used in that ceremony. A wakizashi (short sword) or more likely tanto (dagger) was.
 
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S1mpleme

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No, not at all even if Japanese culture fascinates me I don't even think I have a very high pourcentage of Asian blood.
So what's the point? That's part of their culture, they have it not because they like that pain or just show off their dead bodies to others that they've died in extremely cool way. Death is not lifestyle, its opposite to life.
 
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LonelyHopelessDude

LonelyHopelessDude

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Dec 17, 2019
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It's hard to determine whether you're actually serious or not. Why would anyone willfully stab themselves in the stomach knowing it'll be an excruciatingly painful and prolonged death? That's if you're not found in time and rushed to the hospital.

In case you are actually serious: honour in that context meant one's reputation and that of one's family remained intact after one's death. In that culture and time period being dishonoured meant disgrace for one's whole living family, ancestors and future descendents so dying in such a gruesome manner actually made sense. In a modern, western context it' would be completely meaningless. Nobody will think of you in terms of admiration for your 'honourable' death. They'll probably think you were quite insane.

A full sized Japanese sword (katana) was never used in that ceremony. A wakizashi (short sword) or more likely tanto (dagger) was.
I was actually serious when making this thread, I take my last moments seriously and even if it was used for a different matter and an other time period in a totally different country, it still suits me.
(Even if it was still used during WW2 I think)

I was also very curious about knowing more in this method.
So what's the point? That's part of their culture, they have it not because they like that pain or just show off their dead bodies to others that they've died in extremely cool way. Death is not lifestyle, its opposite to life.
What's bad about using methods from different cultures ?
Even after dying I will be accused of Cultural appropriation !? Haha
 
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issyishere

issyishere

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Nov 5, 2019
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seppuku seems very gruesome and painful and most likely has a higher chance of failure than hanging or SN ): i'm sure the cleanup won't be too pleasant either but still would be badass
 
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S1mpleme

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I was actually serious when making this thread, I take my last moments seriously and even if it was used for a different matter and an other time period in a totally different country, it still suits me.
(Even if it was still used during WW2 I think)

I was also very curious about knowing more in this method.
I'm sorry, I didnt want to hurt your feelings. I was actually serious, I want to understand why would you do that. It's really painful (I remember times when I ate something and had to spend whole day on toilet and I was crying cause of pain in belly, and this will be worse), usually everybody wants to CTB quick and easy.
 
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LonelyHopelessDude

LonelyHopelessDude

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Dec 17, 2019
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I'm sorry, I didnt want to hurt your feelings. I was actually serious, I want to understand why would you do that. It's really painful (I remember times when I ate something and had to spend whole day on toilet and I was crying cause of pain in belly, and this will be worse), usually everybody wants to CTB quick and easy.
It's okay I can understand peoples confusion when making a thread like that.
People usually search for a quick and painless method, with a clear objective dying without having to suffer.

It was really by curiosity, I know that litteraly making a hole in your body for suicidal means is not the best choice if you want a peaceful death.

But my life doesn't have any sense so why not give a meaning to my death ?

More seriously I will use the traditional SN drink, it will come in less than a week now.
 
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Nemeshisu

Nemeshisu

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Dec 25, 2019
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I say it is very painful. It was so painful that even macho-like Samurais needed an assistant to behead them so they wouldn't have to bleed to death in extreme agony. It's one of most painful methods you could choose from.

It would not be seen as honorable by society nowadays, just as any form suicide. It is now considered as somehow anachronistic by Modern Japan. Also Japanese may think you insult their culture if a foreigner does it. Only case of seppuku in Modern Times that I can think of is suicide of Japanese Writer Yukio Mishima on 25 November 1970. At that time Japanese condemned him for this as they viewed it as propagating militaristic ideas that are no longer part of Japanese Culture. Even some Japanese Premier said that he thought that Mishima went out of his mind.

So if you are looking for attention, I think it is pretty pointless as you will probably attract only negative one. It will be condemned like any suicide by pro-lifers. It also takes a lot of guts to overcome SI with this method as I don't think anyone can just simply stab himself.

If you think it suits you, you can tolerate a lot of pain and that you can overcome your SI so much to get courage to stab yourself then I see why not. It would be pretty unusual death so you might made it to news. However not everyone may want that kind of attention.
 
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S1mpleme

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It's okay I can understand peoples confusion when making a thread like that.
People usually search for a quick and painless method, with a clear objective dying without having to suffer.

It was really by curiosity, I know that litteraly making a hole in your body for suicidal means is not the best choice if you want a peaceful death.

But my life doesn't have any sense so why not give a meaning to my death ?

More seriously I will use the traditional SN drink, it will come in less than a week now.
People say life is meaningless, why would death be any different?
 
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LonelyHopelessDude

LonelyHopelessDude

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Dec 17, 2019
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I say it is very painful. It was so painful that even macho-like Samurais needed an assistant to behead them so they wouldn't have to bleed to death in extreme agony. It's one of most painful methods you could choose from.

It would not be seen as honorable by society nowadays, just as any form suicide. It is now considered as somehow anachronistic by Modern Japan. Also Japanese may think you insult their culture if a foreigner does it. Only case of seppuku in Modern Times that I can think of is suicide of Japanese Writer Yukio Mishima on 25 November 1970. At that time Japanese condemned him for this as they viewed it as propagating militaristic ideas that are no longer part of Japanese Culture. Even some Japanese Premier said that he thought that Mishima went out of his mind.

So if you are looking for attention, I think it is pretty pointless as you will probably attract only negative one. It will be condemned like any suicide by pro-lifers. It also takes a lot of guts to overcome SI with this method as I don't think anyone can just simply stab himself.

If you think it suits you, you can tolerate a lot of pain and that you can overcome your SI so much to get courage to stab yourself then I see why not. It would be pretty unusual death so you might made it to news. However not everyone may want that kind of attention.
Thanks for the little history lesson here I didn't know that but you're missing the point.
I'm not searching for attention why would a dead want attention !?
People say life is meaningless, why would death be any different?
I don't think life in general is meaningless, I was talking about my life.
Giving a certain meaning to your death could still be interessing !
Even if at the end it doesn't really change anything, some people maybe don't want to go the traditional way
 
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Nemeshisu

Nemeshisu

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Dec 25, 2019
236
Thanks for the little history lesson here I didn't know that but you're missing the point.
I'm not searching for attention why would a dead want attention !?
I am not sure. I don't know why would anyone choose such a method that is so painful and would draw a lot of attention if there are other methods available.
 
LonelyHopelessDude

LonelyHopelessDude

Student
Dec 17, 2019
102
I am not sure. I don't know why would anyone choose such a method that is so painful and would draw a lot of attention if there are other methods available.
Well a suicide is a suicide, I will not make the headlines if I die by Seppuku, hanging or poisoning, a lot people die of suicide everyday.

I'm dying for me not for the others and if I use this method, when someone will discover by body or a police officer, he will write down "death by suicide, method stabing".
Not "He died in an honorable way by commiting Seppuku".

When I will be dead attention will be my last problem haha
 
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Nemeshisu

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Well a suicide is a suicide, I will not make the headlines if I die by Seppuku, hanging or poisoning, a lot people die of suicide everyday.

I'm dying for me not for the others and if I use this method, when someone will discover by body or a police officer, he will write down "death by suicide, method stabing".
Not "He died in an honorable way by commiting Seppuku".

When I will be dead attention will be my last problem haha
Yeah, actually if you weren't kind of famous during your lifetime then It wouldn't matter too much during death too.

That is some healthy behavior. I am glad that you are doing it for yourself and not others.
 
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LonelyHopelessDude

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Yeah, actually if you weren't kind of famous during your lifetime then It wouldn't matter too much during death too.

That is some healthy behavior. I am glad that you are doing it for yourself and not others.
If I want to end my life it has nothing to do with others or the world, only with me, don't worry about that.

I will be rooting for SN anyways, I just wanted to learn more about this traditional method.
 
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S1mpleme

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Thanks for the little history lesson here I didn't know that but you're missing the point.
I'm not searching for attention why would a dead want attention !?

I don't think life in general is meaningless, I was talking about my life.
Giving a certain meaning to your death could still be interessing !
Even if at the end it doesn't really change anything, some people maybe don't want to go the traditional way
Maybe yes, maybe not. All I can say you won't find out and the last minutes or even hours you may spend with extreme pain. If you think that worth to try, then it's up you, but what if people around you don't know what's that? They gonna say that you stab yourself with a knife.
 
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LonelyHopelessDude

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Maybe yes, maybe not. All I can say you won't find out and the last minutes or even hours you may spend with extreme pain. If you think that worth to try, then it's up you, but what if people around you don't know what's that? They gonna say that you stab yourself with a knife.
If I ever do it (Seppuku) I will mention it in my suicide note just in case .
But as I said, this thread was more for information purpose.
And yes people will probably think I'm crazy and for dying that way and probably I am !
 
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S1mpleme

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If I ever do it (Seppuku) I will mention it in my suicide note just in case .
But as I said, this thread was more for information purpose.
And yes people will probably think I'm crazy and for dying that way and probably I am !
To be honest I don't really think someone cares of rituals or traditions. They usually want to make sure is it a suicide and if so, as usually, people call us crazy just because of it, and they will probably want to look at the brain and find a disease, cause if suicidal people are crazy by society's opinion, then there must be 100% something in brain. Katana is the last thing in the long list, including funeral, crying, etc.
 
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The Hunter

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Just a question, my method is SN but I was thinking about changing it for Sepukku/ Hara-kiri

I think it's a very honorful way to die but I imagine it would be very painful.

I just don't have the katana yet.
If you are a girl, I would really like to have a date with you.
 
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