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cogmachine

cogmachine

hurk urk blergh
Feb 22, 2023
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ever since i started to seriously consider it, i've been in a mix of peace and grueling fear of what is supposed to happen after it. despite thinking i finally have something to fall back on, the uncertainty is killing me and calming at the same time.
 
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CringeNihilism

CringeNihilism

Eternal Euthymia
Feb 13, 2023
101
Same here. I feel calm when I feel like I have full control of my body, life and death.
 
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jodes2

jodes2

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Aug 28, 2022
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It usually comforted me
 
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jodes2

jodes2

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Aug 28, 2022
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when was it not comforting, if you don't mind me asking?
Good question. Maybe there were a few times when I felt a bit scared because I felt like I had no choice, and killing myself was proving difficult. I was at times also sorta sad that life had come to what it had
 
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Darkover

Darkover

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Jul 29, 2021
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ctb is a huge relief for me due to me almost being a constant state of discomfort
 
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cogmachine

cogmachine

hurk urk blergh
Feb 22, 2023
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Good question. Maybe there were a few times when I felt a bit scared because I felt like I had no choice, and killing myself was proving difficult. I was at times also sorta sad that life had come to what it had
after all it is a last resort to everyone, plunging into unknown depths is terrifying. best wishes jodes
 
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vultureilse

ready to go, just waiting for the right time!
Dec 31, 2022
144
the thought of death is comforting but im very very anxious about the risk of failure. surviving an attempt is the worst thing that could possibly happen to me and i just keep thinking of all the ways i could fail
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
43,419
Of course the thought of no longer existing is the only comfort. To die removes all suffering and solves all problems after all, so of course being gone from this world sounds like something so incredibly ideal to me, as this world is hell and I've never wanted anything to do with something so useless as existence.

But for me the problem lies in the fact that actually going through with suicide is something that is risky, difficult and complicated, if some straightforward way to instantly free ourselves in a risk free way was avaliable I would feel massive relief but sadly that's not the reality.
 
cogmachine

cogmachine

hurk urk blergh
Feb 22, 2023
96
the thought of death is comforting but im very very anxious about the risk of failure. surviving an attempt is the worst thing that could possibly happen to me and i just keep thinking of all the ways i could fail
i understand, and trying to research about it is awful and has people contradicting eachother a lot, very frustrating.
 
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Death is my goal

Death is my goal

pathetic failure
Aug 25, 2022
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comforting
 
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Source Energy

Source Energy

I want to be where people areN'T...
Jan 23, 2023
705
the thought of death is comforting, the process of it, scary
 
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hughmun9

hughmun9

Member
Feb 22, 2023
5
knowing I can ctb at any time is comforting. Makes me feel like I'm alive right now by choice. Makes me less scared of old age. But at this stage in my life I feel anxious whenever in the moment I get ctb thoughts. Because I know I don't actually want to ctb in the near future and usually when I get these thoughts I'm somehow giving up on all the good habits I'm trying to build. It feels like procastinating, which really dials up my anxiety.

In the past when I was actively trying to ctb, the ctb thoughts would make me anxious for a different reason. It was the opposite of procastinating since obviously ctb-ing was my goal. Since I was so serious about it, any ctb thought would be very intense emotionally. In my mind I'd be imagining myself going through with it and that visualisation is tough on the mind and anxiety provoking. I ended up jumping in front of a train when I was 19. Unwise method I know.
 
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Obetydlig

Obetydlig

Member
Feb 22, 2023
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Dying seems scary. The only real plan I have is to be hit by a train and even though it is planned I am worried about the split seconds where I feel everything. Non existance however, is a very calming thought. I know what train, at which area I can easily access it and how fast it will go, that the cow catcher is high enough for me to not get pushed out of the way by it. Having the knowledge, that it is possible to nope out of this existence at any time gives me great comfort.

I would like to quote a resource here that might be able to pinpoint the feeling better than I can:

D. The Empowerment of Accepting Death
We can be caught between knowing that we want to die, taking steps to accomplish it, and really just wanting life to be different, trying to find some way to escape or hide from it. Attempting suicide can be a way of shuffling the deck. No matter how much we may decry the control exercised over us once we've failed an attempt, we are the ones who got us there. It is a means of changing the life we are leading (abandoning control, which a lot of us want to do but for which are afraid of the repercussions). This is in part why some people commit crimes—to return to a controlled environment where they won't have to face the stress of decision-making.

Knowing that we can at any point terminate our lives can be a powerful incentive. "Okay, now I can do anything. If the heat gets to be too much, I can push 'eject, game over,' and I don't have to worry about the conditions I've created for myself." To many this is considered "weak, avoidance, cheating, sinful," etc., but that is just a human judgment intent on keeping us as their pawns, playing by their rules, condemned by their bogey gods, afraid to take the Final Power into their own hands and projecting this onto us as some sort of cosmic sin. After all, if they have to suffer in this shit-hole we're making of the world, we should be required to suffer it too, right? They'll say that we're a "sore loser" or a "spoiled-sport" (their game was ruined) if we don't remain inside their pitiful, finite game (cf. Carse, Watts) and submit to our position.

They are condemned to Hell in a life they deserve, and one's power to end one's own life is like a "secret weapon." Remember those spy movies and stories? (We may pretend we're a spy.) There's always the "cyanide pill" if we're captured or enter into a situation which may compromise our values and goals. If we condition ourselves to ingest it (something that these stories never talk about, but the spies have to endure it to break anti-suicidal conditioning)—that is, to terminate our lives—then we're better equipped to attain anything we want, or to die after feeling that our efforts were thwarted. It is arguable that this is one of the strengths of certain Asian martial codes, such as bushido, which focus so intently on the death of the participant.
 
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sleepyturtle

sleepyturtle

they/them
Mar 1, 2023
36
sometimes its scary, losing what little i have left, but most of the time its relieving, not having to be in pain ever again.
 
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BlackWednesday

BlackWednesday

Student
Oct 18, 2022
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the thought of death is comforting, the process of it, scary
This. The idea that I can escape this life is comforting, but thinking about actually carrying out an attempt is nerve-wracking, especially if the method is violent or painful.
 
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prim

prim

pretty boy
Feb 28, 2023
77
the idea is comforting to me but i dont want to disappear yet. i would like to be alive for me to see the world
 
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cogmachine

cogmachine

hurk urk blergh
Feb 22, 2023
96
knowing I can ctb at any time is comforting. Makes me feel like I'm alive right now by choice. Makes me less scared of old age. But at this stage in my life I feel anxious whenever in the moment I get ctb thoughts. Because I know I don't actually want to ctb in the near future and usually when I get these thoughts I'm somehow giving up on all the good habits I'm trying to build. It feels like procastinating, which really dials up my anxiety.

In the past when I was actively trying to ctb, the ctb thoughts would make me anxious for a different reason. It was the opposite of procastinating since obviously ctb-ing was my goal. Since I was so serious about it, any ctb thought would be very intense emotionally. In my mind I'd be imagining myself going through with it and that visualisation is tough on the mind and anxiety provoking. I ended up jumping in front of a train when I was 19. Unwise method I know.
were those fantasies more intrusive or something you actively imagined to desensitize yourself to it? how was the aftermath of that attempt? doing it in such a way looks terrifying, i hope there weren't a lot of physical complications afterwards. i suppose at your current stage as you said, it'll be inevitable to fall back on thinking about it from time to time. best of luck and stay strong.
the idea is comforting to me but i dont want to disappear yet. i would like to be alive for me to see the world
where would you like to go to / travel?
Dying seems scary. The only real plan I have is to be hit by a train and even though it is planned I am worried about the split seconds where I feel everything. Non existance however, is a very calming thought. I know what train, at which area I can easily access it and how fast it will go, that the cow catcher is high enough for me to not get pushed out of the way by it. Having the knowledge, that it is possible to nope out of this existence at any time gives me great comfort.

I would like to quote a resource here that might be able to pinpoint the feeling better than I can:

D. The Empowerment of Accepting Death
We can be caught between knowing that we want to die, taking steps to accomplish it, and really just wanting life to be different, trying to find some way to escape or hide from it. Attempting suicide can be a way of shuffling the deck. No matter how much we may decry the control exercised over us once we've failed an attempt, we are the ones who got us there. It is a means of changing the life we are leading (abandoning control, which a lot of us want to do but for which are afraid of the repercussions). This is in part why some people commit crimes—to return to a controlled environment where they won't have to face the stress of decision-making.

Knowing that we can at any point terminate our lives can be a powerful incentive. "Okay, now I can do anything. If the heat gets to be too much, I can push 'eject, game over,' and I don't have to worry about the conditions I've created for myself." To many this is considered "weak, avoidance, cheating, sinful," etc., but that is just a human judgment intent on keeping us as their pawns, playing by their rules, condemned by their bogey gods, afraid to take the Final Power into their own hands and projecting this onto us as some sort of cosmic sin. After all, if they have to suffer in this shit-hole we're making of the world, we should be required to suffer it too, right? They'll say that we're a "sore loser" or a "spoiled-sport" (their game was ruined) if we don't remain inside their pitiful, finite game (cf. Carse, Watts) and submit to our position.

They are condemned to Hell in a life they deserve, and one's power to end one's own life is like a "secret weapon." Remember those spy movies and stories? (We may pretend we're a spy.) There's always the "cyanide pill" if we're captured or enter into a situation which may compromise our values and goals. If we condition ourselves to ingest it (something that these stories never talk about, but the spies have to endure it to break anti-suicidal conditioning)—that is, to terminate our lives—then we're better equipped to attain anything we want, or to die after feeling that our efforts were thwarted. It is arguable that this is one of the strengths of certain Asian martial codes, such as bushido, which focus so intently on the death of the participant.
where did you find this, if you don't mind me asking? i assume a lot more people have a death (void) wish, but to go through with it, or even imagine doing it to yourself is a whole other beast.
 
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Obetydlig

Obetydlig

Member
Feb 22, 2023
18
It's from a pdf called a "A practical guide to suicide" found in the stickied suicide resource compilation, there's a lot of other good stuff there too, anyway, here you go :)

 
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prim

prim

pretty boy
Feb 28, 2023
77
where would you like to go to / travel?
i wanna go see asia and america as well as africa and australia. id like to travel to each of these continents and visit countries within. i wanna see and experience as much as possible before i leave this existence
 
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cogmachine

cogmachine

hurk urk blergh
Feb 22, 2023
96
i wanna go see asia and america as well as africa and australia. id like to travel to each of these continents and visit countries within. i wanna see and experience as much as possible before i leave this existence
anywhere specific? or just generally the continent
 
prim

prim

pretty boy
Feb 28, 2023
77
anywhere specific? or just generally the continent
well i guess new york, san francisco, mexico, maybe brazil again, singapore, china, north korea, south korea, japan, australia. … the problem is finding all the money for this,, anyone wanna rob a bank with me?
 
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cristaleyez

cristaleyez

xe/they/it
Feb 21, 2023
64
Both.
I could care less about the pain of death. I have fibromyalgia and rheumatoid arthritis, a 4-6 on the pain scale is a daily occurrence. I've had kidney stones. I know what pain is. I deal with it 24/7.

What terrifies me though is what happens after it's successful. I'm not religious, although I consider myself an omnist. I believe what everyone believes is real. But I personally don't put my faith to one deity. And with so many theories of what happens after death, who's to know which one is real, when it's impossible to prove with science?
Ideally, I'd want to die and become a ghost. But I'm unsure if that's real. Although I do believe in the paranormal, in my head it has certain requirements, like unfinished business or something.
Or maybe Heaven and Hell is real, in which I'd undoubtedly probably just end up in Hell. Endless flames and pain. Probably not as bad as living real life, but still just as exhausting, so what would be the point of it?
Or reincarnation, in which I'll forget everything and become a new person. I don't want to trap my soul in an endless search of the perfect life.
Or maybe it's simple- nothing, nothing at all. Which is hard for my brain to even imagine. At every given moment, at least one of my senses is active, sight, hearing, taste, smell, touch. So trying to imagine none of that forever. No thoughts even, no awareness that you're even dead. If I'm not able to appreciate the relief suicide is meant to give me, what is the point either? I won't be at peace. I won't be upset either. Nothing. I could just be nothing.

For a lot of people I think suicide is about control. I can agree. Which is why the uncertainty of the afterlife bothers me. I'm not sure if there is control over that. Or if it even exists at all.
Unless we manage to miraculously prove what happens to the human spirit after death with concrete evidence, I'll probably be alive.
 
hughmun9

hughmun9

Member
Feb 22, 2023
5
Dying seems scary. The only real plan I have is to be hit by a train and even though it is planned I am worried about the split seconds where I feel everything. Non existance however, is a very calming thought. I know what train, at which area I can easily access it and how fast it will go, that the cow catcher is high enough for me to not get pushed out of the way by it. Having the knowledge, that it is possible to nope out of this existence at any time gives me great comfort.

I would like to quote a resource here that might be able to pinpoint the feeling better than I can:

D. The Empowerment of Accepting Death
We can be caught between knowing that we want to die, taking steps to accomplish it, and really just wanting life to be different, trying to find some way to escape or hide from it. Attempting suicide can be a way of shuffling the deck. No matter how much we may decry the control exercised over us once we've failed an attempt, we are the ones who got us there. It is a means of changing the life we are leading (abandoning control, which a lot of us want to do but for which are afraid of the repercussions). This is in part why some people commit crimes—to return to a controlled environment where they won't have to face the stress of decision-making.

Knowing that we can at any point terminate our lives can be a powerful incentive. "Okay, now I can do anything. If the heat gets to be too much, I can push 'eject, game over,' and I don't have to worry about the conditions I've created for myself." To many this is considered "weak, avoidance, cheating, sinful," etc., but that is just a human judgment intent on keeping us as their pawns, playing by their rules, condemned by their bogey gods, afraid to take the Final Power into their own hands and projecting this onto us as some sort of cosmic sin. After all, if they have to suffer in this shit-hole we're making of the world, we should be required to suffer it too, right? They'll say that we're a "sore loser" or a "spoiled-sport" (their game was ruined) if we don't remain inside their pitiful, finite game (cf. Carse, Watts) and submit to our position.

They are condemned to Hell in a life they deserve, and one's power to end one's own life is like a "secret weapon." Remember those spy movies and stories? (We may pretend we're a spy.) There's always the "cyanide pill" if we're captured or enter into a situation which may compromise our values and goals. If we condition ourselves to ingest it (something that these stories never talk about, but the spies have to endure it to break anti-suicidal conditioning)—that is, to terminate our lives—then we're better equipped to attain anything we want, or to die after feeling that our efforts were thwarted. It is arguable that this is one of the strengths of certain Asian martial codes, such as bushido, which focus so intently on the death of the participant.
Jumping in front of a train has a pretty high survivability rate (10% at least), not to mention that if you do survive, the likelihood of being left mutilated is high. It's your method your body though, I won't judge.
 
Obetydlig

Obetydlig

Member
Feb 22, 2023
18
Jumping in front of a train has a pretty high survivability rate (10% at least), not to mention that if you do survive, the likelihood of being left mutilated is high. It's your method your body though, I won't judge.
So first of all, it seems the 10% survival rate is true. However most of the train suicides and attempts are done at the platform plus people just kinda jump at the train/under it.

I plan to drive a bit outside of the city where I would lay down on the tracks so my neck touches the rail so I would get decapitated. I know which model too, the X40 which ive measured at up to 170km/h (100mph+) and top speed at 200kmh Im still not sure about this method and am looking into SN for a more peaceful method but I feel like theres no way that would be painful/survivable, it seems like a solid option ig.
 
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hughmun9

hughmun9

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Feb 22, 2023
5
were those fantasies more intrusive or something you actively imagined to desensitize yourself to it?
It was at a time when for me ctb-ing felt like the right choice after thinking about it for many years. The thoughts were kind of intrusive for the first few years when I wasn't fully determined but they didn't cause me much distress. To clarify, what I mean by intrusive is that they would happen without me wanting them to happen. As years went by and I felt more determined I wouldn't call them intrusive, but they definitely got pretty intense. I felt frustrated when I would stop thinking about ctb-ing and just getting it done since I felt I was ignoring what I really wanted to do. But it's very taxing to seriously think about ending it and walking through the steps of doing it mentally. Your body is gonna enter a pretty serious fight-flight state when you do that. It did not get any less anxiety-provoking the more serious I got about actually doing it. If anything, it got more and more stressful as I knew that I was really going to do it.
how was the aftermath of that attempt?
Surprisingly, not that bad at all. I was very very close to death but a young man that I think was a volunteer of some sort was incredibly close to the scene and reacted very quickly. I would've bled out if not for him. A few fractured bones, some ribs were cracked, cracked sinuses, flesh from my underarm was torn open, and some flesh from my head was torn open. As in, imagine you peel away some chunk of flesh, it didn't completely fall off my body, it was still flopping on. With a lot of train track oil and junk in the wound. But the doctors managed to clean things up, place the flesh back on and sew it shut. So the only scars from those wounds are the seam where the flesh connected back. Literally just a few lines on my body. They don't look aesthetically unpleasing. You cannot see the scar on my head since my hair is covering it and I have relatively thick hair. There's also a big vertical line scar on my abdomen since the doctors did a quick intervention to search for the cause of some internal bleeding. Their CT machine was bugging out and they thought they were running out of time. Face is somehow untouched. Overall my body aesthetically looks the same as before, except for some scars that look just lines drawn on my body in a few places. the underpit, forearm, abdomen, and head. In 5 weeks I was able to walk again. My right forearm still hurts a bit, but other than that my body is just as functional as before, if not a tiny bit less flexible because of the abdomen scar. The Doctors could not explain how that happened as I was dragged around under the train too. I got 'lucky' with the 2nd best possible outcome.

It was pretty awkward when the volunteer came to visit at the hospital a week later. He was expecting some sort of thanks for saving my life, but I obviously gave him none of that. This wasn't easy to do for me, it took many years to gather that courage and take a huge risk. I'm not grateful for his heroism. That being said, he should probably be praised, he did a hard thing and probably the 'right' thing that he was expected by everyone in his cohort to do.

Doing it in such a way is incredibly irresponsible. I was naive at the time and I did not fully research the method. I wanted to blindly believe that there was no way a train wouldn't get the job done. In retrospect (I didn't realize this at the time) I probably was scared that if I did fully research it I'd find out that I don't have access to a good method. Surprisingly survival rate is >10%. If I had known about SS, I would've definitely gone with partial hanging or the night-night method in a hotel room.

i hope there weren't a lot of physical complications afterwards. i suppose at your current stage as you said, it'll be inevitable to fall back on thinking about it from time to time. best of luck and stay strong.
Thank you, I appreciate it:- ). I have a lot of hope for the future personally. I tasted some authentic improvements and I feel like I know roughly which way I should go. It's the classic childhood CPTSD trope for me personally. I discovered it by chance 4 years after the attempt. Funnily enough, I would've said I had the perfect family before my attempt. And that's pretty common with people in dysfunctional families. You just don't know what normal is. Especially if the trauma isn't physical or obvious to onlookers. There was almost no way I could've known what I was experiencing wasn't normal. But things still aren't easy. I'm in a pretty tough spot financially and socially right now and sometimes I do think about ctb-ing. But not in a serious way anymore.


Best of luck to you too and stay strong.
 
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itsallpointless

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Feb 9, 2023
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Super comforting. My only anxiety is that the people I entrust to clean up the scene fail and my parents find out it wasn't a natural death
 
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OutOfTheVoid

she/her
Feb 10, 2023
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comforting for me (generally)

its been anxiety inducing too in the past, especially when ive attempted. but overall, i find a profound sense of calm in thinking abt and accepting death. when i was planning a ctb attempt not long ago, i felt the most tranquil i ever had in my life, just bc i believed my life was going to finally end soon. ended up postponing that plan, and then i started getting anxious over losing that sense of peace and having to live again. i guess im more scared of living than i am of dying
 
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outrider567

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Apr 5, 2022
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Comforting
 
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