FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Existence is a nightmare
Sep 24, 2020
23,332
I really wish that more people in this world were antinatalist as it would prevent so much unnecessary suffering. Procreation is cruelty and nobody who is not yet existing deserves to be burdened with existence.
 
stermc

stermc

libertas quae sera tamen
Nov 24, 2022
938
I was a vegetarian for 8 years, and want to go back to vegan this time. I am anti-natalist, but to myself. Wouldn’t put my opinions on people’s life though.
 
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AnnonyBox

AnnonyBox

Specialist
Apr 11, 2018
332
I'm an antinatalist, and I agree with vegan ethics and philosophy, but I've unfoetunately been programmed to be a meat eater by a carnist culture. Perhaps one day I'll fully go vegan. I agree, it's sad that it's so hard to find people like us to talk to. Society at large just wants to suppress our way of thinking because they don't want to actually think about things.
 
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rabid_aspie_yokai

rabid_aspie_yokai

fluffy nonhuman
Mar 23, 2023
45
Yess, just conform, work , make babies etc. I was also a meat eater for a long time. What are you struggling with rn? It took me some time and dedication too
I'm an antinatalist, and I agree with vegan ethics and philosophy, but I've unfoetunately been programmed to be a meat eater by a carnist culture. Perhaps one day I'll fully go vegan. I agree, it's sad that it's so hard to find people like us to talk to. Society at large just wants to suppress our way of thinking because they don't want to actually think about things.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
3,408
Not to be rude but why aren't you vegan? I know it's not easy for everybody tho

Hiiii let's gang up (🔥ω⁠ 🔥⁠)
I don't take enough care of myself to be honest... I think I'd really struggle with health if I cut out eggs etc. I do try and buy organic free range in the hopes they have a better life buy yeah- it still doesn't feel great. Really, I know it's lazyness at the end of the day. I just spend so much time working, I can't be bothered to make proper meals.

If I'm honest, I wonder just how cruelty-free all our food is... Do you ever wonder that? Even foods you'd assume are vegan can still harm animals and the environment:

 
Ambivalent1

Ambivalent1

More meat for the grinder
Apr 17, 2023
643
mRNA vaccines are said to be injected soon into the livestock. Horrifying. May have to turn vegan. Died Suddenly - Must see documentary on Rumble
 
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OceanBlue

OceanBlue

Feminist
Jun 13, 2021
582
I'm anti-suffering, which means I support everything that reduces suffering in the world - antinatalism, veganism, and human equality movements as long as we continue to exist.

Primarily, I'm an efilist. Since this planet produces so much suffering, including animals in the wild, I believe we should be looking for ways to tear it down.

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High levels of awareness and empathy are so uncommon in humans that they are perceived as a disorder. Other people will consistently make it worse - gaslight, ostracize, ridicule, hate. To be happy and content in a world like ours, you need to be seriously deluded and devoid of compassion, most people seek this state of ignorance.

I'm sorry your parents did not protect you from being born. 🖤
 
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rabid_aspie_yokai

rabid_aspie_yokai

fluffy nonhuman
Mar 23, 2023
45
I don't take enough care of myself to be honest... I think I'd really struggle with health if I cut out eggs etc. I do try and buy organic free range in the hopes they have a better life buy yeah- it still doesn't feel great. Really, I know it's lazyness at the end of the day. I just spend so much time working, I can't be bothered to make proper meals.

If I'm honest, I wonder just how cruelty-free all our food is... Do you ever wonder that? Even foods you'd assume are vegan can still harm animals and the environment:


True, but veganism is not about being perfect, it's about causing the least harm. Also eggs are not needed at all, my main diet is rice/pasta, frozen mixed veg, and beans and I'm healthy. I have to motivate myself to try to be healthy or people would assume that veganism leads to problems... Best wishes to you 💚
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
3,408
True, but veganism is not about being perfect, it's about causing the least harm. Also eggs are not needed at all, my main diet is rice/pasta, frozen mixed veg, and beans and I'm healthy. I have to motivate myself to try to be healthy or people would assume that veganism leads to problems... Best wishes to you 💚
Are beans your main source of protein? Do you have soya milk or take protein supplements may I ask?
 
IfyouareamanWinston

IfyouareamanWinston

Student
Aug 22, 2022
115
I don't take enough care of myself to be honest... I think I'd really struggle with health if I cut out eggs etc. I do try and buy organic free range in the hopes they have a better life buy yeah- it still doesn't feel great. Really, I know it's lazyness at the end of the day. I just spend so much time working, I can't be bothered to make proper meals.

If I'm honest, I wonder just how cruelty-free all our food is... Do you ever wonder that? Even foods you'd assume are vegan can still harm animals and the environment:


Many things are not cruelty free when you consider humans as well. I don't let that deter me. Animals cannot even hope to advocate for themselves.
I have been vegan for 10 years. I never bothered with antinatilism as I can not afford children so it matters very little to me.
 
rabid_aspie_yokai

rabid_aspie_yokai

fluffy nonhuman
Mar 23, 2023
45
Are beans your main source of protein? Do you have soya milk or take protein supplements may I ask?
Hmm basically yes, but i try to bring variaty into it. My staple is rice+beans/lentils+mixed veggies. I make a big batch of equal parts rice legumes veggies (like 1 cup of each, the beans are canned so already cooked so i add them last... Also I add salt and mild spices, whatevers at home, rarely tofu bc it's expensive). It takes 30 minutes max and leftovers are good for a few days. My other go to is oatmeal with soymilk, and random fruits nuts or peanut butter but yeah pb is not cheap here so i mostly go with fruits.
I used protein powder in the past, but then i learned I already get enough protein so I don't need it (but still have some left)
Many things are not cruelty free when you consider humans as well. I don't let that deter me. Animals cannot even hope to advocate for themselves.
I have been vegan for 10 years. I never bothered with antinatilism as I can not afford children so it matters very little to me.
Thank you for being vegan for the animals 💚
 
IfyouareamanWinston

IfyouareamanWinston

Student
Aug 22, 2022
115
Yeah most people don't need to add protein if you are getting lentil/beans/tofu or some kind of mock meat daily. I think as a whole people assume more protein is better but that's based on data about athletes. People living average lives are just giving themselves more kidney stones xD
 
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rabid_aspie_yokai

rabid_aspie_yokai

fluffy nonhuman
Mar 23, 2023
45
Humans need like what 0.8 or 1 grams of protein per kilogram so not much at all
 
pockettan

pockettan

All I can do is dream, for I am so, so tired.
Mar 12, 2023
413
Antinatalist here. I keep it to myself mostly since I don't want to intefere with anyone's decision. But really, I wish people would cut down on procreating, or at least, can guarantee a decent relationship with their child. It hurts seeing people who suffer because the ones that force them here can't be bothered to be more understanding. As for vegan, I'm considering being one. It's horrific how much pain humans could cause to animal, and I want to stop participating in this act. But it's taking a while lol, I can't adjust yet.
 
leloyon

leloyon

Sick Of It All
Feb 4, 2023
259
I am antinatalist/efilist, though not vegan or vegetarian due to the fact that I have a very limited diet due to the fact that my taste buds are stupid and have decided that most food tastes bad to me. If I became vegetarian now, I believe I would die.
 
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rabid_aspie_yokai

rabid_aspie_yokai

fluffy nonhuman
Mar 23, 2023
45
Yes, I am a vegan antinatalist. Though reddit is pretty awful, there is a vegan antinatalist subreddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/VeganAntinatalists/). It's small enough that the worse aspects of reddit haven't impacted it yet, and it may be worth your occasional perusal.
Ahh thank you!! There's a subreddit for literally everything lol, it gives me some hope
Antinatalist here. I keep it to myself mostly since I don't want to intefere with anyone's decision. But really, I wish people would cut down on procreating, or at least, can guarantee a decent relationship with their child. It hurts seeing people who suffer because the ones that force them here can't be bothered to be more understanding. As for vegan, I'm considering being one. It's horrific how much pain humans could cause to animal, and I want to stop participating in this act. But it's taking a while lol, I can't adjust yet.
It took me half a year to go vegetarian then vegan so i get it. It hurts me that people have babies left and right, especially if they have hereditary diseases. The last time i was in hospital there was a lady with schizophrenia (her mother/grand mother also had it) and her main reason for wanting to get better and lose weight (she's also obese) was to be able to get pregnant and give birth. I don't get it... I tried to question her on why she wants a biological kid but she got offended... I hate how i can't read the room and stuff but im curious...
 
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