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sadnurse

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Scared to CBT for fear that they will go to hell and be tortured even more than here on earth? Being brought up catholic this is what prevents me more than SI ………
 
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Grumpy Bear

Grumpy Bear

People are poison
Jul 21, 2021
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Ok this type thread has been done very recently and many many other times.

No hell is a fairytale, but it took me a while to get used to that idea because I was also brought up Catholic.
 
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PeacefulTonic

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Aug 10, 2021
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What's worse than this dystopian hell on Earth we're already living in?
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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There is no evidence of such a hell existing. The thing that terrifies me is this life, as there is unlimited potential for suffering. I believe there is nothing after this, death is true peace.
 
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blueclover_.

blueclover_.

Better Never to Have Been: 2006, David Benatar
Oct 11, 2021
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What's worse than this dystopian hell on Earth we're already living in?
Well according to the Islamic version of hell: Eternal fire, spiky and nasty fruits as food, demons repeatedly stabbing and tearing sinners flesh with super painful magical weapons, etc.

Oh and if you're a (female) whore the demons are gonna sexually abuse the shit out of you, repeatedly, forever.

They sell these books with pictures to kindergartens in my country.
 
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Fadeawaaaay

Fadeawaaaay

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Nov 12, 2021
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Scared to CBT for fear that they will go to hell and be tortured even more than here on earth? Being brought up catholic this is what prevents me more than SI ………
Not me. I don't really see any reason to believe in hell. I mean what evidence is there?
 
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Esteban Il Divino

Esteban Il Divino

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Nov 9, 2021
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Everybody dies anyway.
CTB is just a short cut to where everybody is going.
If you see it that way, why be afraid of the inevitable ?

Unless you think that you may go to hell because you choose to ctb and not to let death happens by itself .
Which is maybe more a Buddhist point of view than catholic... I was brought up Buddhist, so that scared me for a while, but I don't believe in any "after life" stuff anymore.

With that said, nobody really knows.
Like a famous comedian said : "Is there life after death ? Only Jesus could answer this question... Unfortunately, he's dead."
 
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callme

callme

I'm a loose cannon - I bang all the time.
Aug 15, 2021
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Everybody dies anyway.
CTB is just a short cut to where everybody is going.
If you see it that way, why be afraid of the inevitable ?

No, it matters what you do in between, but this way another problem is created - you live in a vacuum under huge pressure just to get by.
 
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stellabelle

ethereal
Dec 14, 2018
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Scared to CBT for fear that they will go to hell and be tortured even more than here on earth? Being brought up catholic this is what prevents me more than SI ………
Fear based deterrent.
 
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Rayzieka

Rayzieka

Not Really Here
Apr 28, 2021
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You really shouldn't worry about that. But if you want to be afraid of hell then that fear itself is real enough for you.
Personally I think heaven and hell are the same thing those people who go out at night and throw crystals and salt around believe in.
 
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thereisthemist

thereisthemist

drops common loot when defeated
Nov 5, 2021
159
Be alive and suffer more then, clearly you are still afraid of what living people told you about death and stuff.
Just my 5 cents.
 
Itsallover123

Itsallover123

Student
Nov 14, 2021
137
That is a belief in many religions. My family is muslim, but I am not due to the abusive way my parents tried to force Islam on me (thankful for that now) and the way I view religions is that they are all just forms of controlling people. They scare people with hell, promise people heaven, and then once they have you brainwashed they can make you follow whatever beliefs they want. Telling you that CTB will send you to hell is just one of those controlling beliefs.
Well according to the Islamic version of hell: Eternal fire, spiky and nasty fruits as food, demons repeatedly stabbing and tearing sinners flesh with super painful magical weapons, etc.

Oh and if you're a (female) whore the demons are gonna sexually abuse the shit out of you, repeatedly, forever.

They sell these books with pictures to kindergartens in my country.
It enrages me the ways religious people will brainwash others like this. They have no care for people's liberties or freedoms, they want to control everything and they will manipulate and deceive to achieve their goals. I mean, why should children have to worry about such things? Why teach to children in the first place, if its not to abuse their vulnerability?
Sorry if this is too much.
 
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blueclover_.

Better Never to Have Been: 2006, David Benatar
Oct 11, 2021
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That is a belief in many religions. My family is muslim, but I am not due to the abusive way my parents tried to force Islam on me (thankful for that now) and the way I view religions is that they are all just forms of controlling people. They scare people with hell, promise people heaven, and then once they have you brainwashed they can make you follow whatever beliefs they want. Telling you that CTB will send you to hell is just one of those controlling beliefs.

It enrages me the ways religious people will brainwash others like this. They have no care for people's liberties or freedoms, they want to control everything and they will manipulate and deceive to achieve their goals. I mean, why should children have to worry about such things? Why teach to children in the first place, if its not to abuse their vulnerability?
Sorry if this is too much.
Ahhh finally someone who comes from the same background as me. These born-atheists will never understand how freaking hard it is to detox your brain from all the religious indoctrination and trauma you grew up with.

Worse is when liberal Muslims who live in the western world try to tell you that Islam is peaceful. No, your parents are just not following the quran. It's literally encouraged in islam to beat 7 year olds if they don't want to pray 5 times a day.
 
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