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HereToday

Arcanist
Dec 27, 2019
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I emailed them about my situation thinking they'd automatically reject me due to age and circumstances, but surprisingly they told me to apply. You know your life is sad when applying for assisted suicide gets you excited lol. Is anyone else considering pegasos? Funnily enough I won't have anyone by my side either way, whether I do it in a hotel room or in a clinic. My family would never support it so I'd end up being alone anyway
 
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LittleJem

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Jul 3, 2019
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I'm thikning about it. I have a little more fight in me again, but am thinking about Pegasos - I get the impression they might accept people with mental illness. I am planning to contact them this week. If you don't mind me asking, is that why you contacted them or is it another reason?

My ex boyfriend told me he'd come with me - which just blew me away. It's the most supported I have ever felt when he said that. Saying that, I am more frightened of going to Pegasos than taking an OD at home. To go to a place to be assisted to die feels a lot more scary than taking an OD at home. But I think I like that Pegasos is professional and guaranteed death too.

My family wouldn't support it either - though I have been asking them for hte past year to say goodbye to me, because I am feeling tortured. But they can't understand that - it's all about them!!!

I think I have to try some more medications before I go for this option - for the sake of my family and just in case anything works. But have tried so many things already.
 
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k75

L'appel du Vide
Jun 27, 2019
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I just spent a little too long looking up the cost of airfare from here to there, lost in the fantasy. But no, I can't even afford to repair my car, much less scrape together the money to pay for their services.
 
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HereToday

Arcanist
Dec 27, 2019
437
I just spent a little too long looking up the cost of airfare from here to there, lost in the fantasy. But no, I can't even afford to repair my car, much less scrape together the money to pay for their services.
On the bright side you could always just get a loan you'd never have to pay back lol
I'm thikning about it. I have a little more fight in me again, but am thinking about Pegasos - I get the impression they might accept people with mental illness. I am planning to contact them this week. If you don't mind me asking, is that why you contacted them or is it another reason?

My ex boyfriend told me he'd come with me - which just blew me away. It's the most supported I have ever felt when he said that. Saying that, I am more frightened of going to Pegasos than taking an OD at home. To go to a place to be assisted to die feels a lot more scary than taking an OD at home. But I think I like that Pegasos is professional and guaranteed death too.

My family wouldn't support it either - though I have been asking them for hte past year to say goodbye to me, because I am feeling tortured. But they can't understand that - it's all about them!!!

I think I have to try some more medications before I go for this option - for the sake of my family and just in case anything works. But have tried so many things already.
I wasn't counting on it because a young person on here who had a mental illness contacted them and they replied saying they were under a lot of 'political pressure' to decline applications like that, and told them to get counselling instead.
I have physical health issues which cause mental health issues as a symptom. I have anxiety and depression symptoms on my medical records, but haven't been diagnosed by a psychiatrist as the problem isn't actually my brain. Honestly I was expecting them to reject me too, I'm excited now.

You're lucky to have someone support your decision and be with you. I wish my ex would do that, but alas he is the devil and one of the reasons I'm ctb so never mind.

Yeah pegasos is a guaranteed peaceful death which is a bonus. I also like the idea of having people around me when the time comes.

Sorry to hear of your troubles. I hope things improve for you
 
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LivingToLong

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Feb 23, 2019
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I'm certainly keen to hear of peoples experiences, and how the process goes on. If I thought it was just a matter of having the will and the money, then I would most certainly be interested.
 
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epic

Enlightened
Aug 9, 2019
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https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/im-considering-just-considering-pegasos.27483/
@fightingsioux did.
 
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fightingsioux

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Oct 22, 2019
357
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/im-considering-just-considering-pegasos.27483/
@fightingsioux did.
Going in March.

Would prefer not to discuss the subject in public--many rather strange, factually incorrect, even abusive replies, perhaps out of frustration--but I welcome any serious PM's and will try to tell you the truth and help in any way I can.
 
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Abood95

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Jul 1, 2019
33
I emailed them but they rejected me due to my young age
 
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fightingsioux

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Oct 22, 2019
357
This is some info that I first posted about a month ago in a thread called "I'm Considering Pegasos." ( https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-considering-pegasos.27483/page-6#post-525913) Read the whole thread if you have some time: some good info by others, some misinformation, some rather strange but perhaps understandable reactions.

What is Pegasos?
Pegaos Swiss Association is a voluntary assisted dying (VAD) organization based in Basel, Switzerland. Pegasos believes that it is the human right of every rational adult of sound mind, regardless of state of health, to choose the manner and timing of their death.
Cost of VAD



Service
TOTAL10,000
Assessments and administration3,000
VAD Appointment, incl. Medical Consultation's4,300
Funeral Services etc.2,150
Post VAD Administration550

Do you need to be terminally ill to come to Pegasos?
No, it is not necessary to be terminally ill to be accepted for a VAD at Pegasos.

Does Pegasos accept young, depressed or suicidal people?
Pegasos does not accept young people with depression or other severe mental illness. Rather, Pegasos will refer such applications to counselling services such as those published on the Pegasos website.

Do you accept young people?
At Pegasos we accept applications from adults over the age of 18 years only.

Do you accept people with mental illness?
Mental illness is a vexed issue. At Pegasos we believe that you can still have mental capacity even if you suffer from long term depression. The most important thing is to tell us of your mental illness and then we can work with you for the best outcome.

Does Pegasos help 'well' people to die?
Pegasos believes that for a person to be in the headspace of considering ending their lives, their quality of life must be qualitatively poor. Pegasos accepts that some people who are not technically 'sick' may want to apply for a VAD. But this does not mean the person is 'well'. Professor David Goodall was one of these people. He was not sick but his eye sight was failing him, as was his mobility. Old age is rarely kind. The decision to end one's life is an intensely personal one. Pegasos makes every effort to understand fully the unique circumstances of everyone who makes contact with us.

How exactly does a person die at Pegasos?
Pegasos generally uses the intravenous method of Nembutal administration. This involves having a cannula inserted into one's arm and a solution of the lethal drug fed into your body from a 'line' that is controlled by a 'tap'. However, if preferred, a person can also have the option of taking a small drink. In this case, anti-emetic (anti-vomiting) drugs will also need to be taken. Other approaches are also available. These can be discussed with Pegasos once the VAD application is approved.

How long does it take to die?
After the sodium pentobarbital starts flowing intraveneously, the person goes to sleep usually within a few seconds and dies quickly afterwards. If a person takes the Nembutal as a drink, the process is a bit longer.

Can I choose the actual method for my VAD?
Yes, Pegasos is all ears when it comes to a person's individual preferences. The options are an intravenous infusion or a small drink.

How do I control the actual VAD myself?
If you have elected intravenous administration of the Nembutal, you need to be able rotate the small wheel that opens the IV line that will be attached to the cannula in your arm. If you have weakness in your fingers or limited movement in your hands and and arms, then Pegasos has developed an ingenious device that requires a simple bump to start the infusion. This can be operated with one's arm, body or even feet. A slight turn of the head also works and even with your tongue. If you have chosen to drink the drugs, the least you will need to be able to do is swallow. If you do not have movement of your arms, you must be able to suck the liquid through a straw. If you do have movement of your arms then this method should present no problems for you.

If I choose to drink the drugs, is there a risk that I will vomit?
As there is always a risk of vomiting with anything we put in our mouths, to ensure that vomiting does not affect your VAD, Pegasos will provide highly-effective, anti-emetic drugs.

What happens after I die?
After your VAD, Pegasos will call the authorities who will attend our clinic. These officials will be friendly and very sensitive to the fact that you have just lost someone you loved very much. Once the authorities are satisfied that your death was voluntary and was initiated by you, Pegasos will call the funeral home who will come and collect your body. Your ashes will be available five days later. Your ashes can be either mailed home to your family or collected by your designated contact person.
 
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Mizzmini45

Arcanist
Dec 1, 2019
447
I might apply for it
I emailed them but they rejected me due to my young age
I thought if your over 18 that's enough? What do they consider young age?
 
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HereToday

Arcanist
Dec 27, 2019
437
I might apply for it

I thought if your over 18 that's enough? What do they consider young age?
They've rejected plenty of people in their 20s and 30s on here and told them to get counselling instead
I think if you're young and 'only' have mental health issues, you're likely to be rejected
 
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Mizzmini45

Arcanist
Dec 1, 2019
447
They've rejected plenty of people in their 20s and 30s on here and told them to get counselling instead
I think if you're young and 'only' have mental health issues, you're likely to be rejected
Ok I'm in that range and I'm afraid I'll get rejected.
 
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HereToday

Arcanist
Dec 27, 2019
437
Ok I'm in that range and I'm afraid I'll get rejected.
Email them with your specific circumstances, they'll tell you whether you should bother applying or not. Please let us know how it goes
 
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Mizzmini45

Arcanist
Dec 1, 2019
447
Email them with your specific circumstances, they'll tell you whether you should bother applying or not. Please let us know how it goes
Ok I will. I just emailed them with the age and circumstances. I'll let you guys know how it goes
 
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dstryr

Member
Dec 7, 2019
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Wrote this in another thread but. It'd be reassuring to get an idea of how many of those applying have been asked for photo ID very quickly after making contact?
 
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Mizzmini45

Arcanist
Dec 1, 2019
447
I'm going to apply soon. I was told my information was to scant and to apply. I can save the money I really can. I'll keep you guys posted. They probably will say no but I'll try anyways
 
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nonamegirl

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Jan 6, 2020
190
I emailed them. I don't think I would apply if they gave me green light to. But it would nice and a comfort to know whether it is even an option, should I settle on wanting to die at some point in the coming years.
 
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k75

L'appel du Vide
Jun 27, 2019
2,546
They've rejected plenty of people in their 20s and 30s on here and told them to get counselling instead
I think if you're young and 'only' have mental health issues, you're likely to be rejected
Their website says:
Pegasos believes that it is the human right of every rational adult of sound mind, regardless of state of health, to choose the manner and timing of their death.
 
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Elbarado

Experienced
Dec 25, 2019
243
yep i wrote them a contact yesterday and waiting for an answer
 
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Mizzmini45

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Dec 1, 2019
447
For those who get accepted can you please tell us your circumstances. Thanks!
 
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TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
7,007
I would if I meet their criteria. However, I am very far off from their criteria to be accepted. I am too young (not even 30 yet) to even be considered, I don't have any severe debilitating illnesses (physically or psychologically), and also don't have the funds for travel and applying. Therefore, pegasos would not be an option for me. :'(
 
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HereToday

Arcanist
Dec 27, 2019
437
Their website says:
Pegasos believes that it is the human right of every rational adult of sound mind, regardless of state of health, to choose the manner and timing of their death.
They also say 'Pegasos does not accept young people with depression or other severe mental illness. Rather, Pegasos will refer such applications to counselling services such as those published on the Pegasos website.'
A young person on here with depression was told they can't accept such applications due to 'political pressure'. If you don't believe me contact them and see for yourself.
 
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fightingsioux

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Oct 22, 2019
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k75

L'appel du Vide
Jun 27, 2019
2,546
If you don't believe me contact them and see for yourself.
I wasn't challenging what you said. Just trying to add clarification about their policies of acceptance. :)

I hardly qualify as young, anyway, so that would be pointless.
 
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Elbarado

Experienced
Dec 25, 2019
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I wasn't challenging what you said. Just trying to add clarification about their policies of acceptance. :)

I hardly qualify as young, anyway, so that would be pointless.


Got an reply, where they told me they are there for me, are sorry for my situiation,but to avoid all the paper stuff i should download the PPH and may be i know more how to handle my situation after it...

Lol in fact that was an indirect encourage to ctb.

Damn... i just want that fucking N, what they have.,.........
 
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HereToday

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Got an reply, where they told me they are there for me, are sorry for my situiation,but to avoid all the paper stuff i should download the PPH and may be i know more how to handle my situation after it...

Lol in fact that was an indirect encourage to ctb.

Damn... i just want that fucking N, what they have.,.........
Seriously?? I'm so surprised/shocked by that, never seen them indirectly encourage anyone to ctb before. Someone messaged me a couple of hours ago saying they're 31 and were rejected due to having depression (they didn't post on here so I'll assume they don't want to be named), which is what I expected. But their response to you is shocking, even for an assisted suicide organisation!
 
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Jean4

Remember. I am ALWAYS right.... until I’m not
Apr 28, 2019
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Going in March.

Would prefer not to discuss the subject in public--many rather strange, factually incorrect, even abusive replies, perhaps out of frustration--but I welcome any serious PM's and will try to tell you the truth and help in any way I can.
I am sorry you were treated that way. You have been nothing but helpful, and most certainly did not deserve to be disrespected.
 
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★†DaughterOfEve†★

Another pharma destroyed life :(
Nov 24, 2019
126
Got an reply, where they told me they are there for me, are sorry for my situiation,but to avoid all the paper stuff i should download the PPH and may be i know more how to handle my situation after it...

Lol in fact that was an indirect encourage to ctb.

Damn... i just want that fucking N, what they have.,.........


Was this Pegasos who said this to you?!? :O I want N too.
 
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PLS1212

Member
Jan 6, 2020
6
Feel free to PM, will discuss completely.
I am seriously considering Pegasos. I would be very interested to hear how you decided to arrange travel, lodging etc. I'm an Exit member but am new to this forum and am not sure how to PM. If you don't mind, could you please initiate a PM with me so that we can communicate directly? Thanks!
 
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